You are mistaken. He tried to chop his glove into two. Or was it push it out of the way?
- flyer_nutter

Yeah. I don't get the whole what Keith did was bad, but what Carter did was just a little tap...a 2-hand chop tap that certainly looked like it had some force behind it.

Also, anybody surprised the Pens are in a game where they've gotten 5 penalties compared to the Bruins' 2?

And yet he did... Hell, he didn't even look when he took his little 2-hand chop.
- wolfhounds

No, he didn't intentionally try and slash his hand. Anymore then Keith intended to whack Carter in the face. Carter was looking directly down at the glove.

Kimmo is a better two way defenseman than Letang.
- Jsaquella

Kimmo Timonen is amazing. Right up there as being one of the best defenseman the Flyers have ever had in the history of the organization. Amazing player. I can't imagine life without him on this team. It was rough not having Eric Desjardins for a short time as our number 1.

I feel the Flyers have the same in Grossman, Coburn and Luke Schenn. I'm speaking from my view of the players (Orpik vs. Letang) then what the Flyers need...
- dingo8urbaby

I know. But you stated that you hate Letang and that can skew your view on him.

No, he didn't intentionally try and slash his hand. Anymore then Keith intended to whack Carter in the face. Carter was looking directly down at the glove.
- MJL

Sorry, MJL, but Carter doesn't look as he chops down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YHRW0ve0k

I just think its a little female dog play personally. Especially after the exchange they had earlier on the play. If Carter was mad, drop the gloves or make a hit. Just me.
- flyer_nutter

It is a Richard move, you know what is an even bigger female dog play? Hitting a guy in the face from behind with your stick as retaliation (intentional or not).

I feel like the Flyers have a similar player in Grossmann.
- stveshdy

I wouldnt go defending too many players after the last 2 seasons and especially this one.

Grossmann would be one of those guys though. Before his injury he was the teams best D-man on most nights. He has most of the time been a rock on D since his arrival, and given his all every night.

I'd like to keep him over a guy like Coburn. I'd always keep the guy with more heart if it comes down to it, and Grossmann is also more consistent in his own zone. The injuries do scare me though.

It is a Richard move, you know what is an even bigger female dog play? Hitting a guy in the face from behind with your stick as retaliation (intentional or not).
- Yosimar89

True true.

Both were dirty, but if Keith misses time so should Carter. That was a play that could easily have broken fingers or a hand.

Just a nutters thoughts. No worries here.

I know. But you stated that you hate Letang and that can skew your view on him.
- stveshdy

I hated Max Talbot more then any other Penguin. I don't anymore...

Better on offense I don't think so?
- Philly1980

No, better two way, which means his combined offense and defense is better

Sorry, MJL, but Carter doesn't look as he chops down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YHRW0ve0k
- wolfhounds

You're correct, I was wrong about that.

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand

No, he didn't intentionally try and slash his hand. Anymore then Keith intended to whack Carter in the face. Carter was looking directly down at the glove.
- MJL

Your homerism to anything to do with the Flyers is becoming more clear every day. Anything to do with the team, any decision, is perfection. Even former players are gold.

3 goals 5a... He should have had 20... The last game he was invisible after the Giroux hit... This series he's been invisible.
- Philly1980

He has been. Unfortunately, Letang hasn't been invisible, his play has been noticeably bad.

Sorry, MJL, but Carter doesn't look as he chops down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49YHRW0ve0k
- wolfhounds

After watching that video, Keith has to be smarter than that. I don't think he wanted to hit Carter in the face but intended to hit him in the chest area. Giving Carter a hard tap back for even attempting to hit his glove/hand.

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand
- Crimsoninja

It's not the 70's anymore bob.

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand
- Crimsoninja

With Pronger probably doing the same as Keith.

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand
- Crimsoninja

I agree, it's really part of the game. And if Keith whacks him on the arm instead of the face, I doubt there's even a penalty called. I don't think Keith intended to whack him in the face. It was just reactionary.

I hated Max Talbot more then any other Penguin. I don't anymore...
- dingo8urbaby

You're correct, I was wrong about that.
- MJL

Makes him look less guilty that way...

That being said, I doubt he was trying to hurt Keith, same as Keith's stupid swing.

You're correct, I was wrong about that.
- MJL

But willing to start some dumbass pissing match over it, acting like its fact. Your act is old son.

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand
- Crimsoninja

I don't think it was all that awful. His being a repeat offender is the primary reason I'd suspend him

No, better two way, which means his combined offense and defense is better
- Jsaquella

Ok but we all know letang is a pure offensive damn... Something this team needs and is really going to Ned once kimmo retires

maybe its just me but i dont really mind Richard moves in the playoffs

Clarke wouldve pushed the glove AND slashed the hand
- Crimsoninja

Ahh, the 70s.

I wonder how the Flyers would match up against the Bruins in this series.