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Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:04 AM ET
Garth blog around noon offering Miller and 50 Anchor Bar wings for Malkin ++
- Pierceme69


I dont think there is any doubt about that.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 6 @ 8:14 AM ET
Dreger's ass is itchy if he thinks Shero is trading Malkin.
- rival22



So.... Miller, Ennis and the 16th pick for Evgeni, then?

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:21 AM ET
Dreger's ass is itchy if he thinks Shero is trading Malkin.
- rival22

It could be the best thing that could happen to your team... I look at it this way... both Crosby and Malkin elevate their game when the other is out. Both are rare talents, but there is no doubting Crosby being a lifetime Pen...

I said a few seasons back that Malkin (straight up) for Weber would make me poop my pants as a Flyers fan. Having the best forward and best d-man in the world on one team isnt fair. And honestly.. having a pairing of Letang and Weber is just downright scary.

If that trade doesnt float yinz boat... hows about dis... Malkin and a first to Stl for Shattenkirk, Stewart and (gotta say it just because lol) Jake Allen?

Idk, I think you guys could address several areas by trading Malkin.. The possibilities are nearly endless..


On another note... I think Malkin has a lower body injury that we will find out about very soon... He hasnt looked very strong of late. Its a shame too.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:22 AM ET
I wonder if Killian still thinks that it was the wrong move playing Vokoun?

Penguins averaged well over 4 goals a game in the first two series. Against Boston in almost 11 periods of hockey, they have 2 goals.

- rival22

Thats what happens to teams like ours (more offensively driven, high tempo) when they play defensively oriented and responsible teams.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
It could be the best thing that could happen to your team... I look at it this way... both Crosby and Malkin elevate their game when the other is out. Both are rare talents, but there is no doubting Crosby being a lifetime Pen...

I said a few seasons back that Malkin (straight up) for Weber would make me poop my pants as a Flyers fan. Having the best forward and best d-man in the world on one team isnt fair. And honestly.. having a pairing of Letang and Weber is just downright scary.

If that trade doesnt float yinz boat... hows about dis... Malkin and a first to Stl for Shattenkirk, Stewart and (gotta say it just because lol) Jake Allen?

Idk, I think you guys could address several areas by trading Malkin.. The possibilities are nearly endless..


On another note... I think Malkin has a lower body injury that we will find out about very soon... He hasnt looked very strong of late. Its a shame too.

- jak521


It's been reported a while back that his shoulder is hurt and he will need surgery in the off season.

But I disagree with your notion that Crosby and Malkin elevate their game when each other is out. The stats just don't support that.

While the proposed Blues trade is appealing for the players, it's nonsensical. The main reason that you'd trade Malkin is because of cap reasons, but Shattenkirk and Stewart together are probably going to make more than Malkin will per year (at least next season), and you'd still have to go out and find a good 2nd line center which will cost $4-5 million-ish.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:31 AM ET
It could be the best thing that could happen to your team... I look at it this way... both Crosby and Malkin elevate their game when the other is out. Both are rare talents, but there is no doubting Crosby being a lifetime Pen...

I said a few seasons back that Malkin (straight up) for Weber would make me poop my pants as a Flyers fan. Having the best forward and best d-man in the world on one team isnt fair. And honestly.. having a pairing of Letang and Weber is just downright scary.

If that trade doesnt float yinz boat... hows about dis... Malkin and a first to Stl for Shattenkirk, Stewart and (gotta say it just because lol) Jake Allen?

Idk, I think you guys could address several areas by trading Malkin.. The possibilities are nearly endless..


On another note... I think Malkin has a lower body injury that we will find out about very soon... He hasnt looked very strong of late. Its a shame too.

- jak521


I have debunked that theory so many times its not even funny.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:38 AM ET
Kris Letang has been on the ice for more goals against than any other player in the post season.

The next three players on that list are also Penguins (Malkin, Neal & Iginla).
brianb0422
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 6 @ 8:40 AM ET
Damn good game last night.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:42 AM ET
Damn good game last night.
- brianb0422


It was definitely the most entertaining hockey game I've seen in a while... except for that last shot.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 6 @ 8:44 AM ET
I have debunked that theory so many times its not even funny.
- Gunner Staal


It's amazing how prevalent that theory is to outsiders... The only way Malkin isn't signed long term over the summer is if he doesn't want to be a Penguin and from what I've read, he loves playing here. TIOPS reported that the negotiation is expected to be as amicable as Crosby's. Malkin has the same agent too.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:50 AM ET
I have debunked that theory so many times its not even funny.
- Gunner Staal

Im not speaking statistically, and I certainly wont claim to know more about this than you guys, but from my outsider perspective, Malkin is much harder to play against when Crosby is out and vice versa.

I think its about carrying the team... or maybe i am able to just focus on one of them more when the other is out. Idk.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:51 AM ET
It's amazing how prevalent that theory is to outsiders... The only way Malkin isn't signed long term over the summer is if he doesn't want to be a Penguin and from what I've read, he loves playing here. TIOPS reported that the negotiation is expected to be as amicable as Crosby's. Malkin has the same agent too.
- madmike71



This off-season will be the most entertaining season of any kind they have had in a while. Malkin will stay. It will be interesting to see what happens with Letang, MAF, and Bylsma.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:53 AM ET
It's amazing how prevalent that theory is to outsiders... The only way Malkin isn't signed long term over the summer is if he doesn't want to be a Penguin and from what I've read, he loves playing here. TIOPS reported that the negotiation is expected to be as amicable as Crosby's. Malkin has the same agent too.
- madmike71

I know for certain that I am not the only Flyers fan that feels that way... hell my whole mens league team thinks the idea of trading Malkin is extremely unsettling from our perspective.
MadCap2008
Washington Capitals
Location: Brambleton, VA
Joined: 06.02.2007

Jun 6 @ 8:55 AM ET
Tough loss, but that was a great game. At 3-0, this is probably over, but I think if the Pens could somehow win Game 4 the Bruins might quickly start feeling the pressure given their history.

Did anyone here mention the Duncan Keith incident/suspension ? I know it's the playoffs and you hate to suspend a key player for a significant part of a series, but that warranted multiple games IMO.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 6 @ 8:59 AM ET
Tough loss, but that was a great game. At 3-0, this is probably over, but I think if the Pens could somehow win Game 4 the Bruins might quickly start feeling the pressure given their history.

Did anyone here mention the Duncan Keith incident/suspension ? I know it's the playoffs and you hate to suspend a key player for a significant part of a series, but that warranted multiple games IMO.

- MadCap2008

I dont think blowing that 3-0 lead against the Flyers is even remotely prevalent. Thats a few years, and a Stanley Cup win ago.

I think that Shahahanahahan actually got this one right. It was careless and definitely malicious, but I dont believe he meant to hit him in the face... You could tell as soon as it happened. Id say 2 games at most... Now if he had squared up and two hand chopped him in the face i would have said at least ten, but he kinda flung the stick.. idk
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:01 AM ET
It's amazing how prevalent that theory is to outsiders... The only way Malkin isn't signed long term over the summer is if he doesn't want to be a Penguin and from what I've read, he loves playing here. TIOPS reported that the negotiation is expected to be as amicable as Crosby's. Malkin has the same agent too.
- madmike71


And by amicable, it will go like this:
Shero: How much do you want?
Agent: $x over 8 years
Shero: ummm... ok.

Malkin and Crosby do have different agents, but they both work out of the same agency (CAA).

Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:01 AM ET
This off-season will be the most entertaining season of any kind they have had in a while. Malkin will stay. It will be interesting to see what happens with Letang, MAF, and Bylsma.
- akane13

Bylsma, Fleury, Niskanen, Glass....maybe Letang...they all can go. Let's see what we can get for them.

Murray, Cooke, Dupuis stay......Morrow or Iginla: pick one for a reasonable price.

It's hard to say that..Letang is one of my favourite players on this team but we have to move on and think team first.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 6 @ 9:01 AM ET
This off-season will be the most entertaining season of any kind they have had in a while. Malkin will stay. It will be interesting to see what happens with Letang, MAF, and Bylsma.
- akane13


I agree... Those are the 3 story lines. It's widely reported management and ownership love Bylsma. Whether you like him or hate him, it can't be argued that he hasn't been given the talent to win in the post season. Like I said earlier, I think the team could use a fresh set of eyes.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:04 AM ET
Tough loss, but that was a great game. At 3-0, this is probably over, but I think if the Pens could somehow win Game 4 the Bruins might quickly start feeling the pressure given their history.

Did anyone here mention the Duncan Keith incident/suspension ? I know it's the playoffs and you hate to suspend a key player for a significant part of a series, but that warranted multiple games IMO.

- MadCap2008

I thought he deserved at least 3 games there.
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:05 AM ET
It was definitely the most entertaining hockey game I've seen in a while... except for that last shot.
- rival22

Agreed. One of the best games I have seen in a while. Marchand and Rask have cemented themselves as the 2013 versions of Cammalleri and Halak.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:07 AM ET
Im not speaking statistically, and I certainly wont claim to know more about this than you guys, but from my outsider perspective, Malkin is much harder to play against when Crosby is out and vice versa.

I think its about carrying the team... or maybe i am able to just focus on one of them more when the other is out. Idk.

- jak521


Statistically, theoretically, aesthetically, however you break it down, it has no merit.

Malkin and Crosby were #1 and #2 in playoff scoring in 2009, Malkin won the Conn Smythe with Crosby in the lineup. How does that line of thinking not die on the spot right there.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:08 AM ET
This off-season will be the most entertaining season of any kind they have had in a while. Malkin will stay. It will be interesting to see what happens with Letang, MAF, and Bylsma.
- akane13


Potentially all gone. I couldn't fault the Penguins for moving on from any of them.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:09 AM ET
Agreed. One of the best games I have seen in a while. Marchand and Rask have cemented themselves as the 2013 versions of Cammalleri and Halak.
- Rawdog9755

You're spot on

Anyone think we'll have the will and power to get next game?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:09 AM ET
Tough loss, but that was a great game. At 3-0, this is probably over, but I think if the Pens could somehow win Game 4 the Bruins might quickly start feeling the pressure given their history.

Did anyone here mention the Duncan Keith incident/suspension ? I know it's the playoffs and you hate to suspend a key player for a significant part of a series, but that warranted multiple games IMO.

- MadCap2008


That was brutal. Carter was a complete d*ckhead but you cant swing your stick like that.
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:10 AM ET
Statistically, theoretically, aesthetically, however you break it down, it has no merit.

Malkin and Crosby were #1 and #2 in playoff scoring in 2009, Malkin won the Conn Smythe with Crosby in the lineup. How does that line of thinking not die on the spot right there.

- Gunner Staal

Not to mention they already moved Staal. Crosby's injury history makes moving Malkin the least palatable option of all available moves.
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