If the Flyers trade down and grab him late in the first round or early in the second, I'd be happy. If they take him at 11, I will be violently angry, and probably throw stuff.
- Jsaquella

Again this is coming from a draft novice, but usually after the first 3 picks in most NHL drafts, it becomes such a crap shoot on where guys are drafted, who pans out, is there such a thing as a risk taking any player at #11?

Personally, I think the Flyers try to get up in the top 5 to get Barkov or Nichushkin. Over the last 20 years, the Flyers have had very few opportunites to draft in the top 5, especially when it is concerned a pretty deep draft at the top for potential elite talent.

So, after he went to Colorado, you'd get up and walk out of the draft?
- Jsaquella

man you havent been paying attention all season....i wouldn't walk out but i would definitely pull a burke

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Again this is coming from a draft novice, but usually after the first 3 picks in most NHL drafts, it becomes such a crap shoot on where guys are drafted, who pans out, is there such a thing as a risk taking any player at #11?

Personally, I think the Flyers try to get up in the top 5 to get Badrov or Nichushkin. Over the last 20 years, the Flyers have had very few opportunites to draft in the top 5, especially when it is concerned a pretty deep draft at the top for potential elite talent.
- ravishingone

The risk is that Morin would be available much later and that they're bypassing guys who are regarded as much better prospects and who have accomplished a lot more than Morin has. He would be a big reach at 11.

As for a trade up, it wouldn't shock me in the least. There's 5 guys I'd trade up to grab. Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov and Nichushkin. Outside of them, the value isn't really enough to justify giving up the required assets to move up.

switch mario's hands with the college dropout, and the former still pots 20
- stayinthefnnet

Warren Young agrees.

Warren Young agrees.
- johndewar

And Rob Brown

Phillies select High school ss JP Crawford with the 16th pick in the MLB draft.

The risk is that Morin would be available much later and that they're bypassing guys who are regarded as much better prospects and who have accomplished a lot more than Morin has. He would be a big reach at 11.

As for a trade up, it wouldn't shock me in the least. There's 5 guys I'd trade up to grab. Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov and Nichushkin. Outside of them, the value isn't really enough to justify giving up the required assets to move up.
- Jsaquella

I do understand your point about reaching. Also, the Flyers certainly don't mind dipping into the FA options outside the draft (overagers and college free agents) to add organizational depth. So the question becomes stay at #11 and draft a good prospect or if they identified an elite talent who would still be available starting at #3 and go get him.

We can debate back and forth about organizational direction and philosophy, but very, very rarely do they have an opportunity to draft at the top end of the draft. I kind of hope they do use assets and go get a player, it would be exciting.

Phillies select High school ss JP Crawford with the 16th pick in the MLB draft.
- Jsaquella

Studied this draft a bit too, didn't think he'd fall to #16.

TSN - OFF-SEASON GAME PLAN: PHILADELPHIA FLYERS

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=424843#YourCallTop
- Chris48

I disagree with this:

Acquired from Toronto for James van Riemsdyk, Luke Schenn is going to be hard-pressed to give the Flyers equal value, but he was decent in nearly 22 minutes per game last season.

Implying that Toronto got the better of that deal is not correct. I'd say it's been good for both teams and I'd suggest that the author didn't see much of Schenn in Philly this past year.

I disagree with this:



Implying that Toronto got the better of that deal is not correct. I'd say it's been good for both teams and I'd suggest that the author didn't see much of Schenn in Philly this past year.
- johndewar

I agree. I thought the same thing. That's why you really have to take "analysis from a distance" with a grain of salt.

I do understand your point about reaching. Also, the Flyers certainly don't mind dipping into the FA options outside the draft (overagers and college free agents) to add organizational depth. So the question becomes stay at #11 and draft a good prospect or if they identified an elite talent who would still be available starting at #3 and go get him.

We can debate back and forth about organizational direction and philosophy, but very, very rarely do they have an opportunity to draft at the top end of the draft. I kind of hope they do use assets and go get a player, it would be exciting.
- ravishingone

If they stay put at 11 they could get a very good player, in fact, they are pretty sure to land a good prospect by staying at 11, one who could easily be a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman in just a few years.

Trading up to get one of the "elite" prospects in the top 5 will cost them, but it may be a good move....some scouts say that Nichushkin could be similar to Malkin, and that'd definitely be a guy who would be worth the cost.

Of course, at one point in time, guys like Alexandre Daigle and Aki Berg were seen a potential franchise players. Trade a lot of assets to land a guy who turns out to be one of them would be a disaster.

Studied this draft a bit too, didn't think he'd fall to #16.
- ob18

From the little I read, he was expected to go higher. Carl Crawford's cousin.

I disagree with this:



Implying that Toronto got the better of that deal is not correct. I'd say it's been good for both teams and I'd suggest that the author didn't see much of Schenn in Philly this past year.
- johndewar

JvR was the sizzle, Schenn provided a lot of steak for the Flyers. JvR's point per minute played actually dropped from the last two years he was with the Flyers in his first year as a Leaf.

If they stay put at 11 they could get a very good player, in fact, they are pretty sure to land a good prospect by staying at 11, one who could easily be a top 6 forward or top 4 defenseman in just a few years.

Trading up to get one of the "elite" prospects in the top 5 will cost them, but it may be a good move....some scouts say that Nichushkin could be similar to Malkin, and that'd definitely be a guy who would be worth the cost.

Of course, at one point in time, guys like Alexandre Daigle and Aki Berg were seen a potential franchise players. Trade a lot of assets to land a guy who turns out to be one of them would be a disaster.
- Jsaquella

There certainly is risk involved, no doubt. I feel better about this organization about trading up and identifying a top level forward over a d-man. Ironcially, all 4 teams left in the playoffs drafted a player in the top 5 playing crucial roles on the team. It does help to get a shot at upper level prospects.

Hopefully Chicago turns the tide yet again.

Tough task without Keith.

Whatever happens, and whatever poop show occurs, I'd really like to see this team being one of the better teams again.

Sucks watching other teams play and have the Flyers not even make the dance.

Whatever happens, and whatever poop show occurs, I'd really like to see this team being one of the better teams again.

Sucks watching other teams play and have the Flyers not even make the dance.
- flyer_nutter

amen

speaking of "poop show" how did the enema training go?

Hopefully Chicago turns the tide yet again.

Tough task without Keith.
- flyer_nutter

I watched the first period of the last game and J Williams, Sharp, and Carter were the three best players on the ice.

Made me sick.

There certainly is risk involved, no doubt. I feel better about this organization about trading up and identifying a top level forward over a d-man. Ironcially, all 4 teams left in the playoffs drafted a player in the top 5 playing crucial roles on the team. It does help to get a shot at upper level prospects.
- ravishingone

Brayden Schenn, 5th overall, 2009

From the little I read, he was expected to go higher. Carl Crawford's cousin.
- Jsaquella

Yup saw mainly from 6 to 13 with a few as late as 15. Likely in the area of 5 years away.

The flag thing on the ice is cool, but you'd think I just shoved a suppository up the anthem singer's ass.

What on Earth is that (frank)ing annoying voice in LA all the time?

How obnoxious.

What on Earth is that (frank)ing annoying voice in LA all the time?

How obnoxious.
- Giroux_Is_God

Sounds like (frank)ing Cartman off of South Park.

Joke of an organizaton to begin with.

Yup saw mainly from 6 to 13 with a few as late as 15. Likely in the area of 5 years away.
- ob18

I saw that.

Nice to at least restock the cupboards with potential top tier talent. Haven't had that chance in years....

Baseball drafts are so weird, aren't they? A first round pick to mature to have success in the MLB is almost surprising, ya know?

Sounds like (frank)ing Cartman off of South Park.

Joke of an organizaton to begin with.
- flyer_nutter

Don't watch the show.

Why....why....just why.