I can't see Fleury going anywhere. Unless it was a trade for another goalie like Miller or Halak or something. Maybe Markstrom in Florida? Pens don;t really have another option. Vokoun has played great and I can;t stand people describing him as a journeyman... if he wasn't stuck on awful Florida teams for years he would be considered a HOF goalie. Besides that though, he showed his age last year on Washington during a full 82 game season. We can't trust him to stand up for a whole season. An then what about after next year? I think Fleury stays. In Shero I trust and I'm sure he will do something damn awesome to try to right this ship.
- ChrisMS

Yep, you were all about Iggy coming in and doing wonders. Nice job.

That said, there ae options. You ain't getting Markstrom. If Anaheim is shopping Hiller, it could take a first round pick and a D prospect to get in the mix. You get back into that first round with your only true trade asset - Letang. A first and a good solid NHL youngster on his entry level contract. Shero can't keep Fleury now. No chance.

You don't trade Malkin. You trade Fleury and Letang(if you have to).

Fleury + for Miller is the deal we should be looking for. Fleury is a great regular season goalie and that's all Buffalo is asking for now that Miller seems to want out. Miller is a playoff goalie (at least he was awessome playing for US in 2010). We need him on board. Go get him Shero.

Hiller is cool and all but we'd have to unload Fleury's salary and Anaheim wouldn't take him.

Is the Letang for Eberle offer still up? ...if not, Shattenkirk/Oshie for Letang.
- Orpik44

Stop with the Oshie/Shattenkirk crap. Neither of them are being dealt.

Fleury wasn't bad this year, he was ABYSMAL. Last year, he had the worst playoff numbers since Jim Carey (yeah, remember him?). Like I said, the defense hasn't been great by any stretch, but his numbers are more than the defense, he was killing himself pretty well.
- jmatchett383

No, you didn't watch too many games. Fleury had a SOLID regular-season. Saying he was abysmal makes you look like a fool. He is a regular-season goalie now. He has been abysmal in the last two play-off seasons. Regular-season? Nope.

I just can't see Florida giving Markstom up. They have zero depth in goal, and Markstrom is a guy that they've drafted and developed.
- rival22

ChrisMS is saddly mistaken if he thinks Markstrom is on the market. What a joke.

Old news but I thought the Penguins played really well, Vokoun and Malkin especially. If that was not 2OT in the conference finals Jagr would have been called for hooking Malkin. Hopefully Tuukka can keep it up because I expect more of the same effort from the Penguins tomorrow.
- GSDIV

Rask has stolen two games for you. JMO, if he is playing like he was in the regular-season, we might be up 2-1 instead of down 3-0. He has elevated his game. He is in a dream now. If he wasn't in a dream, different series. Of course, game two regardless would have been a Boston win since we didn't get many shots on net to begin with.

He is a very good goalie - tier 2 for me ... Quick and Lundqvist are ahead of him. Bob is ahead of him based on how he played for Columbus. He is with Howard, Fast, Niemi in that next grouping.

ChrisMS is saddly mistaken if he thinks Markstrom is on the market. What a joke.
- Oneonta Penguin

yeah, no way. florida is in a great position with their youth. him, huberdeau. nd gudbranson, combined with whoever they draft this year. quite a core. why move the goalie portion?

1. Fire Bylsma. If you don't do this, all these other points will be for nothing. If we keep him, we'll go down in burning flames in the postseason once again.

2. Keep Dupuis and Cooke. I was all for keeping Dupuis but I never thought we'd need Cooke, but last night changed my opinion.

A Cooke-Malkin-Neal line is a very interesting line.

you could go with:
Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Cooke-Malkin-Neal
Jokinen-Sutter-Bennett
4th line could use some big bodies to punish opponents. Adams should maintain the RW spot though. Vitale and Glass should remain our extras (unless someone's dumb enough to take Glass from us)

Both Dupuis and Cooke love it here as do their families. wouldn't surprise me to see them make these contract talks simple. They deserve to get paid. the question is can we make it work?

3. Take calls for Malkin and Letang.

I AM NOT SAYING TRADE MALKIN. I AM SAYING LISTEN TO ANY OFFERS FOR HIM. The problem with trading him is that not every team has the assets to acquire him and the ones that do probably wont give them up.

keeping him would be the better case. if we get a coach that plays the matchup lines, having that 1, 2 punch will be deadly.

Letang on the other hand depends on his trade interest and value throughout the league. Will teams value him at a Norris finalist or will they look at his playoff performance? even with his playoffs, I still consider him a top 5 dman. the penguins can look to get a package similar to staal's (I think they can get a better one personally)... maybe try and get into the top 5 of the draft... or maybe go after an up and coming dman.

4. Resign Murray and Eaton. Trade Niskanen.

5. Hire a good coach. I plan on looking into this later tonight, and ill have my list hopefully tonight.

1. Fire Bylsma. If you don't do this, all these other points will be for nothing. If we keep him, we'll go down in burning flames in the postseason once again.

2. Keep Dupuis and Cooke. I was all for keeping Dupuis but I never thought we'd need Cooke, but last night changed my opinion.

A Cooke-Malkin-Neal line is a very interesting line.

you could go with:
Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Cooke-Malkin-Neal
Jokinen-Sutter-Bennett
4th line could use some big bodies to punish opponents. Adams should maintain the RW spot though. Vitale and Glass should remain our extras (unless someone's dumb enough to take Glass from us)

Both Dupuis and Cooke love it here as do their families. wouldn't surprise me to see them make these contract talks simple. They deserve to get paid. the question is can we make it work?

3. Take calls for Malkin and Letang.

I AM NOT SAYING TRADE MALKIN. I AM SAYING LISTEN TO ANY OFFERS FOR HIM. The problem with trading him is that not every team has the assets to acquire him and the ones that do probably wont give them up.

keeping him would be the better case. if we get a coach that plays the matchup lines, having that 1, 2 punch will be deadly.

Letang on the other hand depends on his trade interest and value throughout the league. Will teams value him at a Norris finalist or will they look at his playoff performance? even with his playoffs, I still consider him a top 5 dman. the penguins can look to get a package similar to staal's (I think they can get a better one personally)... maybe try and get into the top 5 of the draft... or maybe go after an up and coming dman.

4. Resign Murray and Eaton. Trade Niskanen.

5. Hire a good coach. I plan on looking into this later tonight, and ill have my list hopefully tonight.
- SuperHenderson13

Personally I don't take calls for malkin make calls about malkin or mention anything about malkin other than attempting to resign him. Even if they lose him for nothing next year he is a much better player than anything you will get in return for him and they aren't winning a cup with sutter as the second center. This team still has a chane to win a cup next year and if you get it an malkin leaves so be it.

1. Fire Bylsma. If you don't do this, all these other points will be for nothing. If we keep him, we'll go down in burning flames in the postseason once again.

2. Keep Dupuis and Cooke. I was all for keeping Dupuis but I never thought we'd need Cooke, but last night changed my opinion.

A Cooke-Malkin-Neal line is a very interesting line.

you could go with:
Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis
Cooke-Malkin-Neal
Jokinen-Sutter-Bennett
4th line could use some big bodies to punish opponents. Adams should maintain the RW spot though. Vitale and Glass should remain our extras (unless someone's dumb enough to take Glass from us)

Both Dupuis and Cooke love it here as do their families. wouldn't surprise me to see them make these contract talks simple. They deserve to get paid. the question is can we make it work?

3. Take calls for Malkin and Letang.

I AM NOT SAYING TRADE MALKIN. I AM SAYING LISTEN TO ANY OFFERS FOR HIM. The problem with trading him is that not every team has the assets to acquire him and the ones that do probably wont give them up.

keeping him would be the better case. if we get a coach that plays the matchup lines, having that 1, 2 punch will be deadly.

Letang on the other hand depends on his trade interest and value throughout the league. Will teams value him at a Norris finalist or will they look at his playoff performance? even with his playoffs, I still consider him a top 5 dman. the penguins can look to get a package similar to staal's (I think they can get a better one personally)... maybe try and get into the top 5 of the draft... or maybe go after an up and coming dman.

4. Resign Murray and Eaton. Trade Niskanen.

5. Hire a good coach. I plan on looking into this later tonight, and ill have my list hopefully tonight.
- SuperHenderson13

i agree with a large portion of this. dupes and cooke are both definitely priorities, with emphasis on 9. iggy can kick rocks for all i care. i think bennett needs steady top 6 minutes next year, he seems like the real deal. niskanen has to go. i would like murray resigned if the cost is affordable.

i have a hard time seeing how letang works long term if it was up to me. yeah if he stayed at a 5 mil per year or below salary, id still want him warts and all. however, someone will pay him 6.5 and up per, and at that he just makes too many mistakes to justify it. if he can be moved for the right return, im on board.

however, as far as malkin goes, you can take all the calls you want. ive yet to hear one plausible scenario in which moving him makes sense. if you have one, im all ears. i think the only way you move him is if you are forced to.

I can't lie, I'm willing to trade Malkin for Patrice Bergeron.

I can't lie, I'm willing to trade Malkin for Patrice Bergeron.
- Ben37

I would love to trade Malkin to LA for Kopitar plus something else or Malkin to Chicago for Toews.

i agree with a large portion of this. dupes and cooke are both definitely priorities, with emphasis on 9. iggy can kick rocks for all i care. i think bennett needs steady top 6 minutes next year, he seems like the real deal. niskanen has to go. i would like murray resigned if the cost is affordable.

i have a hard time seeing how letang works long term if it was up to me. yeah if he stayed at a 5 mil per year or below salary, id still want him warts and all. however, someone will pay him 6.5 and up per, and at that he just makes too many mistakes to justify it. if he can be moved for the right return, im on board.

however, as far as malkin goes, you can take all the calls you want. ive yet to hear one plausible scenario in which moving him makes sense. if you have one, im all ears. i think the only way you move him is if you are forced to.
- stayinthefnnet

oh I agree, and by no means do I think trading malkin is the best idea, but if an offer comes and it happens to be great, I think you do it. I don't expect an offer, but you never know.

I posed the offer of Letang plus something else for the #1 pick and Erik Johnson from Colorado.

*keep in mind that Johnson is not what he used to be. still a good dman, but I think people look at the name and say it's awful for COL.

I can't lie, I'm willing to trade Malkin for Patrice Bergeron.
- Ben37

he is a special, special player

I can't lie, I'm willing to trade Malkin for Patrice Bergeron.
- Ben37

Nopes

oh I agree, and by no means do I think trading malkin is the best idea, but if an offer comes and it happens to be great, I think you do it. I don't expect an offer, but you never know.

I posed the offer of Letang plus something else for the #1 pick and Erik Johnson from Colorado.

*keep in mind that Johnson is not what he used to be. still a good dman, but I think people look at the name and say it's awful for COL.
- SuperHenderson13

thats definitely an interesting deal. i know johnson doesnt have the luster he once did, but COL still gave up a ton to acquire him not too long ago. they are going to expect a decent price still. and the number one is an awesome piece, especially this year, but it doesnt hold the same allure to the pens as it does for other teams i think. not that id scoff at it, but the pens need more immediate help. still not a bad offer from the pens perspective, although i think that something else would need to be a nice carrot to get COL to move the one

Where has seguin been for Boston he's been having a terrible playoffs. Imagine how bad they would be killing the pens if he came to play

Stop with the Oshie/Shattenkirk crap. Neither of them are being dealt.
- Oneonta Penguin

"You need a reality check" ...anything is possible. Stl couldn't score this playoffs and bringing in the scoring leader defenseman to their team would add a lot. Not an outrageous deal at all.

As for Fleury...I already said here: I gave up on the guy...unfortunately. He burned all the bridges with fans and the team. Time to trade him.

Where has seguin been for Boston he's been having a terrible playoffs. Imagine how bad they would be killing the pens if he came to play
- Genev21

How about all of our forwards? If they showed up we wouldn't be so f'ed right now ...2 friggin'goals in 3 games!!

I'm calling it... another 2-1 game tomorrow.... TK scores a big one

"You need a reality check" ...anything is possible. Stl couldn't score this playoffs and bringing in the scoring leader defenseman to their team would add a lot. Not an outrageous deal at all.

As for Fleury...I already said here: I gave up on the guy...unfortunately. He burned all the bridges with fans and the team. Time to trade him.
- Orpik44

haha i could see letang single handedly bringing down STLs defensively responsible scheme.

I can't lie, I'm willing to trade Malkin for Patrice Bergeron.
- Ben37

Boston declines lol

I hope Bergy never plays for another team in his NHL career, when Chara hangs them up, Bergeron is the immediate Captain and if he sticks with Boston I seriously see #37 hanging from the rafters one day

I would love to trade Malkin to LA for Kopitar plus something else or Malkin to Chicago for Toews.
- SuperHenderson13

Penguins don't need that kind of overhaul where you consider moving a player like Malkin unless his salary demands are unreasonable. Bennett moves to the second line not Cooke. A new coach is paramount.

Penguins don't need that kind of overhaul where you consider moving a player like Malkin unless his salary demands are unreasonable. Bennett moves to the second line not Cooke. A new coach is paramount.
- madmike71

For now I'd keep Cooke there. That line needs a guy like him since Neal is poopty on the defensive game and so is Geno. Cooke/Malkin were our best players last night in my eyes.(off course somebody is gonna disagree, as it always happens )

haha i could see letang single handedly bringing down STLs defensively responsible scheme.
- stayinthefnnet

Perhaps

As far as I know, Paulie was the worst defenseman in the NHL last year and way overated for his contract. I guess Kris is this year's Paul Martin (in the playoffs)

thats definitely an interesting deal. i know johnson doesnt have the luster he once did, but COL still gave up a ton to acquire him not too long ago. they are going to expect a decent price still. and the number one is an awesome piece, especially this year, but it doesnt hold the same allure to the pens as it does for other teams i think. not that id scoff at it, but the pens need more immediate help. still not a bad offer from the pens perspective, although i think that something else would need to be a nice carrot to get COL to move the one
- stayinthefnnet

yea I think it depends what else we throw in. plus I think they don't do it because that would take two assets away and they only get 1 or 2 ones back.

but if we did have the #1 pick, who do we take? If we take McKinnon, we have another great center that could take over for malkin eventually. or take jones and continue to build the blueline.