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battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:24 PM ET
Not to defend Kane, because I'm getting tired of his playoff disappearance act ( 3 years running now)
- PuckkmeNOpuckU


his shot "disappeared" under Leighton in game 6....
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:24 PM ET
From the last blog:



To be honest, I think they have the combination of players or core (hides) that work together very well. I think this is a major instance of "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts". I think if you spread many of these guys out to different teams, save a select few like Krecji, Bergeron, Chara, Marchand (though I think his act will eventually wear thin) Lucic, and eventually Seguin, most would underwhelm. Daniel Paille was a disaster here when Buffalo traded him. He was put in the right position to succeed in Boston. That position didn't exist here in Buffalo, and doesn't really exist on too many teams in this league at all (maybe LA, that's about it). Peverly was average in Atlanta. Seidenberg was alright in Carolina, but wasn't going to be a difference maker. Horton wasn't able to do anything with Florida either. None of those guys are difference makers.

- buffalofan19

Dennis Seidenberg is an excellent player. We need a guy like him.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 6 @ 1:25 PM ET
how about trying to blog for your own team once in awhile Garth?
- FLYERSROCK!

robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 6 @ 1:25 PM ET
So if Paille is still here, and used only on a 4th line role (i.e. correctly), is this team that much better? I tend to think not. You need difference makers in place first. The rest settles around it.
- buffalofan19


no because he gets run out of town by media and fans for being on the fourth line and not scoring 30 goals.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:25 PM ET
He was scratched most nights before being traded. He wasn't contributing anything. He was incredibly underwhelming to say the least.
- buffalofan19

Another guy Lindy didn't favor. He is a good 3rd 4th line winger. People thought he was going to be Peca here
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:26 PM ET
So if Paille is still here, and used only on a 4th line role (i.e. correctly), is this team that much better? I tend to think not. You need difference makers in place first. The rest settles around it.
- buffalofan19

no they are not any better, I agree. I was just making a comment on his usage in buffalo.. I always thought it was not right.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:26 PM ET
He was scratched most nights before being traded. He wasn't contributing anything. He was incredibly underwhelming to say the least.
- buffalofan19


He had 19G, 35P in 77GP averaging 13MIN TOI in 07-08
He had 12G, 27P in 73GP averaging 12MIN TOI in 08-09

Yeah, he was being scratched in the beginning of 09-10 before being like 2 weeks into the season in October, but far from "not contributing" or "underwhelming" for a bottom 6 player.

He was a better player than Tim Kennedy
teh_HAWKZ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.03.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:26 PM ET

- ikeane


I want to hear about the phenom that is Grigorenko again.

All day, every day.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:27 PM ET
Another guy Lindy didn't favor. He is a good 3rd 4th line winger. People thought he was going to be Peca here
- sbroads24

I seem to remember Garth saying that exact thing
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:27 PM ET
He had 19G, 35P in 77GP averaging 13MIN TOI in 07-08
He had 12G, 27P in 73GP averaging 12MIN TOI in 08-09

Yeah, he was being scratched in the beginning of 09-10 before being like 2 weeks into the season in October, but far from "not contributing" or "underwhelming" for a bottom 6 player.

He was a better player than Tim Kennedy

- theblueandgold



That's not saying much.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:28 PM ET
He had 19G, 35P in 77GP averaging 13MIN TOI in 07-08
He had 12G, 27P in 73GP averaging 12MIN TOI in 08-09

Yeah, he was being scratched in the beginning of 09-10 before being like 2 weeks into the season in October, but far from "not contributing" or "underwhelming" for a bottom 6 player.

He was a better player than Tim Kennedy

- theblueandgold

I think the league has proven that.. I bet Timmy would do things differently if he had the chance to go back in time
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 6 @ 1:29 PM ET
I seem to remember Garth saying that exact thing
- SabresFaninIndiana

It's who he was compared to when drafted. So that's what Buffalo expected
Just like Myers is 6'8 and compared to Chara so now that's who he needs to become in order to please some people
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:29 PM ET
That's not saying much.
- buffalofan19


Well, thats who Buffalo decided to go with over Paille, and we know what Kennedy did in the 2010 playoffs.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
on paille- 1st round pick- shouldnt there be expectations???

we didnt have the luxury of a stacked lineup to slot him into the 4th line checking role.

we needed him to be a difference maker, and he wasnt.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 6 @ 1:30 PM ET
I like how this is ALMOST a Sabres blog.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
I like how this is ALMOST a Sabres blog.
- jmatchett383


i liked how the flyers ALMOST made the playoffs this year.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
So if Paille is still here, and used only on a 4th line role (i.e. correctly), is this team that much better? I tend to think not. You need difference makers in place first. The rest settles around it.
- buffalofan19


Hes a better bottom 6 player than guys like Scott, McCormick, Ellis, Kaleta, Gerbe...

Our bottom 6 is what hurt us this year. We were forced to play our best offensive players in defensive situations because we had a non-existent NHL 4th line and a partial NHL 3rd line.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
From the last blog:



To be honest, I think they have the combination of players or core (hides) that work together very well. I think this is a major instance of "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts". I think if you spread many of these guys out to different teams, save a select few like Krecji, Bergeron, Chara, Marchand (though I think his act will eventually wear thin) Lucic, and eventually Seguin, most would underwhelm. Daniel Paille was a disaster here when Buffalo traded him. He was put in the right position to succeed in Boston. That position didn't exist here in Buffalo, and doesn't really exist on too many teams in this league at all (maybe LA, that's about it). Peverly was average in Atlanta. Seidenberg was alright in Carolina, but wasn't going to be a difference maker. Horton wasn't able to do anything with Florida either. None of those guys are difference makers.

- buffalofan19


first of all Paille was drafted in the 1st round. i can understand your disappointment on that but he's a 4th line energy guy on the B's and our top penalty killer. you couldn't use that? draft status aside? and yes Peverley was average but i guess only in terms of statistics. he's perfect on the third line. plays hard and grinds every shift and has the ability to score 15-20 goals. difference maker? no but what 3rd liner is? as for Seidenberg and Horton we'll just give you a mulligan on that. He's our number two defenseman and an absolute beast. 2nd on the Bruins in ice time behind Chara and getting him back was part of this run we've gone on. difference maker? yes. Horton is 2nd in the NHL in playoff scoring and was key to our 2011 Cup run. He's been huge for us. the Bruins have way more skill than you give them credit for. that and they all to a man buy into the idea of protecting the D zone first.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
on paille- 1st round pick- shouldnt there be expectations???

we didnt have the luxury of a stacked lineup to slot him into the 4th line checking role.

we needed him to be a difference maker, and he wasnt.

- battelmt

you should have expectations, but you have to have reality..
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
Well, thats who Buffalo decided to go with over Paille, and we know what Kennedy did in the 2010 playoffs.
- theblueandgold

Mark Recchi turned him into his personal b!tch.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
Dennis Seidenberg is an excellent player. We need a guy like him.
- sbroads24

he's a machine.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
i liked how the flyers ALMOST made the playoffs this year.
- battelmt

I like how Buffalo ALMOST got a top 3 pick but blew it late in the season
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 6 @ 1:35 PM ET
Hes a better bottom 6 player than guys like Scott, McCormick, Ellis, Kaleta, Gerbe...

Our bottom 6 is what hurt us this year. We were forced to play our best offensive players in defensive situations because we had a non-existent NHL 4th line and a partial NHL 3rd line.

- theblueandgold

agreed... you can add Hecht to that as well
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
Mark Recchi turned him into his personal b!tch.
- Pairo11


cause mark recchi is the greatest player ever, I love the guy all time fav player well top 3 atleast
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:36 PM ET
Hes a better bottom 6 player than guys like Scott, McCormick, Ellis, Kaleta, Gerbe...

Our bottom 6 is what hurt us this year. We were forced to play our best offensive players in defensive situations because we had a non-existent NHL 4th line and a partial NHL 3rd line.

- theblueandgold

and he's a great penalty killer.
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