Hes a better bottom 6 player than guys like Scott, McCormick, Ellis, Kaleta, Gerbe...

Our bottom 6 is what hurt us this year. We were forced to play our best offensive players in defensive situations because we had a non-existent NHL 4th line and a partial NHL 3rd line.
- theblueandgold

You can assemble best bottom 6 in the league, and if your top 6 underwhelms, it makes very little difference.

Hey everyone. Been a while. Pretty busy workload which I am not complaining about in the least.

But on topic, what does everyone think of Hunter Shinkaruk seeing that I don't expect Darcy to do anything except talk a good game about moving up into the top 4.
I know he is on the smallish side but those numbers are tough to ignore. Am I right?

I disagree.. he is not a great PK guy but he is good..
- SabresFaninIndiana

Check the penalty kill while he was suspended.

Hey everyone. Been a while. Pretty busy workload which I am not complaining about in the least.

But on topic, what does everyone think of Hunter Shinkaruk seeing that I don't expect Darcy to do anything except talk a good game about moving up into the top 4.
I know he is on the smallish side but those numbers are tough to ignore. Am I right?
- BuffaloHardHat

i scored 30 goals with him in his 2nd year in NHL 13.. we should probably take him

Hey everyone. Been a while. Pretty busy workload which I am not complaining about in the least.

But on topic, what does everyone think of Hunter Shinkaruk seeing that I don't expect Darcy to do anything except talk a good game about moving up into the top 4.
I know he is on the smallish side but those numbers are tough to ignore. Am I right?
- BuffaloHardHat

I really do like him if some how monhan endholm are gone i want us to go forward in a perfect world if we can get say NJ pick would be a prime spot to grab him

i scored 30 goals with him in his 2nd year in NHL 13.. we should probably take him
- robz228

Blake Comeau is the bomb as well, and dont forget tiny tim was like a 100 point guy

Hey everyone. Been a while. Pretty busy workload which I am not complaining about in the least.

But on topic, what does everyone think of Hunter Shinkaruk seeing that I don't expect Darcy to do anything except talk a good game about moving up into the top 4.
I know he is on the smallish side but those numbers are tough to ignore. Am I right?
- BuffaloHardHat

I'm finding this draft hard to project - I'd love to get a shot at him with our 2nd first round pick.

The one thing Buffalo's Ruff-led teams didn't struggle with up until this year, which was just a Murphy's Law type of season, was penalty killing. The Sabres have had more than their fair share of above average penalty killers throughout the years. Paille was in the middle of that pack. Seidenberg is playing well, as is Horton, and I never denied that. My question is: can they replicate that type of play on most other teams? History says no. Horton could always score, but he had a lazy player stigma in Florida. Seidenberg has talent, but make no mistake, he is helped greatly helped by Chara eating minutes. A lot of these guys are maximizing their play because they are in the right environment, not because they are difference makers. And good for them, they still need to actually play the game. All I am saying is, they are not difference makers by themselves. That is what Buffalo sorely needs.
- buffalofan19

Give the Sabres Crosby. We still don't win a cup with Stafford and Gerbe on our 2nd line and Matt Ellis on our 4th. The Bruins have the talent, and are committed to defense. That's why they win. Their roster isn't short if impact players

I'm finding this draft hard to project - I'd love to get a shot at him with our 2nd first round pick.
- nfph

hes gone before then..

monohan/lindholm and santini look good

The one thing Buffalo's Ruff-led teams didn't struggle with up until this year, which was just a Murphy's Law type of season, was penalty killing. The Sabres have had more than their fair share of above average penalty killers throughout the years. Paille was in the middle of that pack. Seidenberg is playing well, as is Horton, and I never denied that. My question is: can they replicate that type of play on most other teams? History says no. Horton could always score, but he had a lazy player stigma in Florida. Seidenberg has talent, but make no mistake, he is helped greatly helped by Chara eating minutes. A lot of these guys are maximizing their play because they are in the right environment, not because they are difference makers. And good for them, they still need to actually play the game. All I am saying is, they are not difference makers by themselves. That is what Buffalo sorely needs.
- buffalofan19

get the sabres in a deep playoff run and you'd be more than happy to have seidenberg and horton. hard to be a difference maker on a crap team.

yost did a thing about the sabres PK and the shots against with kaleta on the ice goes WAY up. his blocked shots are also not even impressive, you just notice it because whenever he blocks one it hurts him so we think hes a warrior
- robz228

never saw that.. interesting..

Give the Sabres Crosby. We still don't win a cup with Stafford and Gerbe on our 2nd line and Matt Ellis on our 4th. The Bruins have the talent, and are committed to defense. That's why they win. Their roster isn't short if impact players
- sbroads24

for the win

hes gone before then..

monohan/lindholm and santini look good
- Beezer33

Agreed on Monahan (think he's gone too) and Lindholm (shotgun with Larsson)

hes gone before then..

monohan/lindholm and santini look good
- Beezer33

hes gone by 16

2nd round didnt see that

edit: sorry 2nd 1st still no

Check the penalty kill while he was suspended.
- smock

I guess I will have to take your word on it because I don't have that kind of time

I'm finding this draft hard to project - I'd love to get a shot at him with our 2nd first round pick.
- nfph

Yea this is what I thought myself would be the ideal spot for him but I doubt he makes it past the Stars.

Yea this is what I thought myself would be the ideal spot for him but I doubt he makes it past the Stars.
- BuffaloHardHat

correct hes top 10

Agreed on Monahan (think he's gone too) and Lindholm (shotgun with Larsson)
- nfph

I think we go center at 8 and defense at 16.
Just my 2 cents.

get the sabres in a deep playoff run and you'd be more than happy to have seidenberg and horton. hard to be a difference maker on a crap team.
- Fountain-San

Oh absolutely. Those are guys I'm looking for if I am a piece or two away from the cup. Right now, the Sabres should be looking for guys they can build a team around, and only guys they can build a team around. Guys like Seidenberg and Horton are what you use to build with. You need the foundation first. Lucic, Krejci, Chara, and Bergeron are more of the foundation types. Those are the types of guys the Sabres need to focus all efforts on getting right now.

Until I get guys that can make just about anybody around him a better player, I don't care who else is on my roster. If I have to say "it's hard for him to perform well on such a crap team", then I'm not interested in him, not at this stage. I need guys that can turn a crap team into a good one, almost by themselves.

I think we go center at 8 and defense at 16.
Just my 2 cents.
- BuffaloHardHat

Have the same feeling

better d at 16 then forwards will be

A visor would have saved him

Oh absolutely. Those are guys I'm looking for if I am a piece or two away from the cup. Right now, the Sabres should be looking for guys they can build a team around, and only guys they can build a team around. Guys like Seidenberg and Horton are what you use to build with. You need the foundation first. Lucic, Krejci, Chara, and Bergeron are more of the foundation types. Those are the types of guys the Sabres need to focus all efforts on getting right now.

Until I get guys that can make just about anybody around him a better player, I don't care who else is on my roster. If I have to say "it's hard for him to perform well on such a crap team", then I'm not interested in him, not at this stage.
- buffalofan19

100% agree , id love to be a peice or two away but we dont have peice one

A visor would have saved him
- Buffalo--Sabres

smaller goalie equipment too!!!

Oh absolutely. Those are guys I'm looking for if I am a piece or two away from the cup. Right now, the Sabres should be looking for guys they can build a team around, and only guys they can build a team around. Guys like Seidenberg and Horton are what you use to build with. You need the foundation first. Lucic, Krejci, Chara, and Bergeron are more of the foundation types. Those are the types of guys the Sabres need to focus all efforts on getting right now.

Until I get guys that can make just about anybody around him a better player, I don't care who else is on my roster. If I have to say "it's hard for him to perform well on such a crap team", then I'm not interested in him, not at this stage.
- buffalofan19

I don't think anyone was disagreeing with that. But your downplaying the importance of guys like Paille or Seidenberg. Winning a cup is tough, everything has to fall into place. Every player has to play their role, especially in Boston where they roll 4 lines for most of the game

A visor would have saved him
- Buffalo--Sabres