Speaking of Carter:
http://www.thefourthperio...s/bernstein/db130606.html
- BulliesPhan87

Ayep.

Carter got a raw deal from the fans here. That's my opinion.

yes unless he reaches his full potential thats all he is...Potential doesnt win you games.


Heres the true question: if you had a choice between Nicushkin or couts next to giroux next year who do you pick?
- Philly1980

why would i put a fourth line center next to giroux?

why would i put a fourth line center next to giroux?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

haha

Not a Carter fan?
He has played very well, especially since moving back to center with Richards out, which I find ironic.
- Marc D

i've never been a big crater fan

i know he's good and all

i've never been a big crater fan

i know he's good and all
- Don'tForgetTocchet

too much coke for my liking...

- bradleyc4

- bradleyc4

too much coke for my liking...
- Philly1980

Must not be a Chara fan, either

Must not be a Chara fan, either

- BulliesPhan87

Believe it or not, that's a 3-liter.

Believe it or not, that's a 3-liter.
- jmatchett383

- bradleyc4

In theory yes. In practice no. In general, when a good business smells blood they go for the kill. That's good business, like it or not. I can give you countless examples in the banking, healthcare, technology, and food industires. Sports are not exempt. The flyers are a business and they did what was best for their business within the rules. If the owners don't like that then too bad - Homer doesn't have to be liked - in fact Machiavelli would suggest its better to be feared than loved. If the NHL does not like it then change the rules- they have the ability to do so. Sorry if that sounds harsh but the hard truth of owning a business is that your competitors are always trying to take your market share.... And in this case, increase their own market share by acquiring a key asset from Nashville.
- moylander

Here's what your overlooking. Bank of America is not connected in any way to Wells Fargo. B of A could care less if Wells Fargo went under. In fact they'd probably hope for it. But imagine in Bank of America and Wells Fargo were under the same parent Corporation? Would they care then? Would they want to go for the kill? Imagine if B of A had to share part of their revenue with Wells Fargo, if Wells Fargo was struggling. Would Bank of America then want Wells Fargo to do well?
If Nashville does better in it's market, the Flyers benefit in a number of ways. Next if you want, we'll discuss where the big money is. TV revenue!

But hey, I don't own or operate a business. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

- BulliesPhan87

I actually like the guy on the far right who's prepared to punch the ball.

Speaking of Carter:
http://www.thefourthperio...s/bernstein/db130606.html
- BulliesPhan87

Found this part interesting:

The second reason is less visible but may be as large a contributor to his success. Organizationally, the Kings keep a tight ship on player availability and access by the media. The running joke between our colleagues in the press box is what the over/under will be in players available in the post-game locker room and that number is always in the low single digits. Both Richards and Carter were available early in their tenures, but are now rarely seen in the locker room, even on non-game days.

I guess Helene Elliot and Lisa Dillman don't complain about this the way our beat writers did with Bryzgalov?

too much coke for my liking...
- Philly1980

He could have done all the coke he wanted off of the Stanley Cup if they won it in 2010. Don't matter to me.

One small problem... The Flyers struck out... so not only did they piss a lot of people off by being a bit unethical (there is certainly a bit of a "gentleman's agreement" in the league) in the way they issues their offer sheet. I have no problem with it personally, but I also recognize the non-stochastic effect that would resonate long term.

By losing Weber to an OS, the Preds would have been dealt a deathblow. The Flyers new that, and used it to their advantage... Nothing wrong with it, and it puts the ball in the Flyers court, but at the same time, as the Preds or any other team becomes weak, so does the League
- jak521

Deathblow sounds so dramatic. Do the preds become that much weaker having a much more manageable balance sheet with 8 first round picks over the next 4 seasons and a plethora of prospects currently in the system?

He could have done all the coke he wanted off of the Stanley Cup if they won it in 2010. Don't matter to me.
- Jimmygrazz

i agree....

Here's what your overlooking. Bank of America is not connected in any way to Wells Fargo. B of A could care less if Wells Fargo went under. In fact they'd probably hope for it. But imagine in Bank of America and Wells Fargo were under the same parent Corporation? Would they care then? Would they want to go for the kill? Imagine if B of A had to share part of their revenue with Wells Fargo, if Wells Fargo was struggling. Would Bank of America then want Wells Fargo to do well?
If Nashville does better in it's market, the Flyers benefit in a number of ways. Next if you want, we'll discuss where the big money is. TV revenue!

But hey, I don't own or operate a business. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
- MJL

Curious, did you ever suggest this last lockout would be a setback for the NHL? That attendance would be way down?

Deathblow sounds so dramatic. Do the preds become that much weaker having a much more manageable balance sheet with 8 first round picks over the next 4 seasons and a plethora of prospects currently in the system?
- moylander

Draft picks and prospects don't put fans in the seats. If what you said was true, Nashville would have declined to match, and walked away from Weber.

Here's what your overlooking. Bank of America is not connected in any way to Wells Fargo. B of A could care less if Wells Fargo went under. In fact they'd probably hope for it. But imagine in Bank of America and Wells Fargo were under the same parent Corporation? Would they care then? Would they want to go for the kill? Imagine if B of A had to share part of their revenue with Wells Fargo, if Wells Fargo was struggling. Would Bank of America then want Wells Fargo to do well?
If Nashville does better in it's market, the Flyers benefit in a number of ways. Next if you want, we'll discuss where the big money is. TV revenue!

But hey, I don't own or operate a business. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
- MJL

If the parent corporation could benefit from killing one of it's business units, you are sadly, sadly mistaken about 21st century corporate life if you think they wouldn't do so.

Oh, and fwiw, I am intimately familiar with the businesses you mentioned in this example.

Found this part interesting:



I guess Helene Elliot and Lisa Dillman don't complain about this the way our beat writers did with Bryzgalov?
- johndewar

Maybe. Might just be LA isn't as much of a sports crazed city as Philly. Of course, winning a cup puts a nice shine on his reputation.

Curious, did you ever suggest this last lockout would be a setback for the NHL? That attendance would be way down?
- moylander

Don't avoid the question and dodge the discussion. You told me I don't own or operate a business. And basically saying that I don't know what I'm talking about. We'll finish this and then we'll discuss that issue of the lockout if you want.

Believe it or not, that's a 3-liter.
- jmatchett383

I just spit my coke...thanks.

If the parent corporation could benefit from killing one of it's business units, you are sadly, sadly mistaken about 21st century corporate life if you think they wouldn't do so.

Oh, and fwiw, I am intimately familiar with the businesses you mentioned in this example.
- johndewar

But the real issues is do they benefit from killing on of it's business units. And fwiw, the examples could be any line of business. Use Ford and Toyota if you want. The specific business is really irrelevant. So being familiar with them, doesn't matter. It's being familiar with the NHL that matters.

Deathblow sounds so dramatic. Do the preds become that much weaker having a much more manageable balance sheet with 8 first round picks over the next 4 seasons and a plethora of prospects currently in the system?
- moylander

Im not talking about in terms of skill.. Im talking about being able to bring people out to their games..

They arent exactly in a booming market... they just lost their #2 d-man, and then boom.. the best d-man in the league, their captain and fan favorite... gone because the org decided to save some money.

How would you react if Snider decided not to sign Couts or G because he wanted to save money?