It is what it is.
- thundachunk

Burt ?

I really do think Burrows could get a 1st right now, nothing more but a 1st yes.....
- chompsey

I don't.

He has a reputation around the league that I think hurts his value and desirability to other teams.

I also think there's probably a perception that his bread is entirely buttered by the Sedins.

Only people who watch him every game would know that that's simply not the case...

I agree about the part about Luongo. I think most Canucks fans do.

But you seem to ignore the fact that the Canucks would not have made it to game 7 of the SCF if it weren't for Gillis's moves. It's as simple as that.


Many of the moves Gillis made were to make a strong push for the cup, which they did.

Unfortunately they were one win short.

Did it put the Canucks in a worse position for the future? Yes. But sometimes that's the price you have to pay if you think the team is a contender. It's called "win now."

Has he made more bad moves than good since then? Yes.

But his moves were still instrumental in the cup run, which is why he won GM of the year.
- Fosco

list the moves Gillis made that were necessary for the cup run. I would still contend almost all of them were throwing money at UFA's. He's shown very very little ability to make even a decent trade.

coach - Dallas Eakins... gonna sign with OILERS!??

list the moves Gillis made that were necessary for the cup run. I would still contend almost all of them were throwing money at UFA's. He's shown very very little ability to make even a decent trade.
- Isles_since_6

I added in my edit.

Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Higgins, and Lapierre.

Absolutely no way the Canucks make the run without them. No way.

And the contracts he signed the Sedins, Kesler, and Burrows to made him able to add those players.

I also added the similar depth moves that Burke/Nonis made to try to put the team over the top; Smolinski, Rucinsky, and Carney, among a few others.

Which list looks more like scrubs?

EDIT: Ehrhoff, Higgins, and Lapierre were all trades that removed nothing from the roster.

You can also add guys like Chouinard, Isbister, and Weinrich to the list for Burke/Nonis.

Burt ?
- VANTEL

nope

I added in my edit.

Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Higgins, and Lapierre.

Absolutely no way the Canucks make the run without them. No way.

And the contracts he signed the Sedins, Kesler, and Burrows to made him able to add those players.

I also added the similar depth moves that Burke/Nonis made to try to put the team over the top; Smolinski, Rucinsky, and Carney, among a few others.

Which list looks more like scrubs?

EDIT: Ehrhoff, Higgins, and Lapierre were all trades that removed nothing from the roster.
- Fosco

What do you mean scrub? Carney was a beast.

What do you mean scrub? Carney was a beast.

- thundachunk

You must know something I don't

You must know something I don't
- Fosco

Yep somebody has a lot to say today its like mini prock. Between mini prock and the rest of us sheep its getting interesting or maybe its just the feed I have been into today.

If Daniel fought back against Marchand then Marchand got under his skin. If he doesn't fight back he has no heart. It's a ridiculous no win situation for him. If Datsyuk did the same thing he'd be praised for not letting Marchand get the better of him.

The Canucks didn't lose in 2011 because they weren't big enough or tough enough. They lost because they ran out of healthy bodies. Kesler, Hamhuis, Malhotra, Samuelsson, Raymond, Edler, Ehrhoff, Salo, Rome, all hurt. Hard to compete against a team as good as the Bruins with that many injured players.
- KB3Point0

This + Tim Thomas was amazing.

Yep somebody has a lot to say today its like mini prock. Between mini prock and the rest of us sheep its getting interesting or maybe its just the feed I have been into today.
- thundachunk

There's a few mini Procks in here lately.

Also a few who like to pick and choose the parts of a post/argument they respond to and ignore the parts they can't argue against...

What kind of "feed" have you been into ?

There's a few mini Procks in here lately.

Also a few who like to pick and choose the parts of a post/argument they respond to and ignore the parts they can't argue against...

What kind of "feed" have you been into ?
- Fosco

Moms homemade hash brownies

Moms homemade hash brownies
- VANTEL

I have to make a work phone call at 7, but after that I'm getting baked and blitzed...

I don't.

He has a reputation around the league that I think hurts his value and desirability to other teams.

I also think there's probably a perception that his bread is entirely buttered by the Sedins.

Only people who watch him every game would know that that's simply not the case...
- Fosco

Columbus would give up a first for Burrows I think.

I have to make a work phone call at 7, but after that I'm getting baked and blitzed...
- Fosco

Did you get into Beatle John's stash?

Columbus would give up a first for Burrows I think.
- Gullzy

Calgary would

Did you get into Beatle John's stash?
- VANTEL

My stash is bigger

My stash is bigger
- Fosco

Brag brag brag

There's a few mini Procks in here lately.

Also a few who like to pick and choose the parts of a post/argument they respond to and ignore the parts they can't argue against...

What kind of "feed" have you been into ?
- Fosco

I find that is exactly the case. Its about looking for any flaw and then you make a retort and then they thank you for proving the point. Without really making a valid opinion on a discussion. Though I do agree at times with others opinions. The 3rd line issue from yesterday is still eating at me I guess.

Why not both, Edler, Jensen and 1st.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I'd prefer one of Schenn or Couturier and then add Simmonds too

Brag brag brag
- VANTEL

I don't even get to see my stash until July1st.

My stash is bigger
- Fosco

It doesnt matter.. Asians grow hair all over

I don't think any team will offer a 1st or even a prospect good enough to make it worth trading Burrows.
- Fosco

You could definitely get at least a mid to late 1st for Burrows, but that's not enough value to make it worth while trading him.

It doesnt matter.. Asians grow hair all over
- RF_4eva

You are a weird kid...

You could definitely get at least a mid to late 1st for Burrows, but that's not enough value to make it worth while trading him.
- KB3Point0

Maybe, but I doubt it. They'd get more at the TDL than they would at any other time of year.

Still have a hard time seeing any team give up a 1st. Maybe if he was still at 2m/season.

Agreed that a late 1st wouldn't be enough to make it worth while.