curious how bad i get torn apart for saying I wasn't that impressed with weber the few times I saw him play this year.

im not sayin he's not elite and a total beast, but I really think suter allowed him to be so much more effective at the things he does well. not only that, but some of webers skill set is the flashy, crowd pleasing things that are so much easier to notice (huge hitter, retarded shot) while suters skill set has so many more intangibles.

I kinda thought this before, but im starting to be convinced that it's suter who's the better of the two. and always was.

chara
karlsson (healthy)
keith
doughty
suter
letang

weber
subban
piterangelo

For what it is worth, I don't think you are a troll...but you do like to come in and talk poop.
- OilHorse

thank you.... i think?

What can I say? I like the feeling of having her beneath me.
- laughs2907

It sounds like firing Kruger wasn't the original plan, and somewhere along the road, MacTavish figured out that he had the inside track on Dallas Eakins. It's the only explanation for the sudden firing and quick hire of a guy that interviewed with multiple teams.

thank you.... i think?
- ChrisMS

It wasn't an insult

Well 100% of the GM's in the league would make that trade every day of the week
- Ihatebrianburke

you know nothing jon snow

curious how bad i get torn apart for saying I wasn't that impressed with weber the few times I saw him play this year.

im not sayin he's not elite and a total beast, but I really think suter allowed him to be so much more effective at the things he does well. not only that, but webers skill set is the flashy crowd pleasing things that are so much easier to notice (huge hitter, retarded shot) while suters skill set has so many more intangibles.

I kinda thought this before, but im starting to be convinced that it's suter who's the better of the two. and always was.

chara
karlsson (healthy)
keith
doughty
suter
letang

weber
subban
piterangelo
- hugefemale dog77

Suter also has 10X the talent at the forward positions than Weber. If Shea had Parise and Heatley out there...teams could not key on him like they currently do. There are no scary players on the ice with Weber at any time.

curious how bad i get torn apart for saying I wasn't that impressed with weber the few times I saw him play this year.

im not sayin he's not elite and a total beast, but I really think suter allowed him to be so much more effective at the things he does well. not only that, but some of webers skill set is the flashy, crowd pleasing things that are so much easier to notice (huge hitter, retarded shot) while suters skill set has so many more intangibles.

I kinda thought this before, but im starting to be convinced that it's suter who's the better of the two. and always was.

chara
karlsson (healthy)
keith
doughty
suter
letang

weber
subban
piterangelo
- hugefemale dog77

mcdonagh > letang as an overall defenseman bro.

if you take contracts into account and depending on what mcdonagh signs for; I think there might be a few gm's who'd stay away from webers contract in favour of ryan
- hugefemale dog77

Both are perennial Norris trophy Candidates. The cream of the crop. You make room for those contracts if you can get the player.

And people still doubt Sather?
- Jeropotato

I don't. Him and Chiarelli I feel are the 2 best GM's in the league.

mcdonagh > letang as an overall defenseman bro.
- rangerdanger94

hard to argue after the bruins series but I'd still take Letang hands down everyday and trice on sundays...

I don't. Him and Chiarelli I feel are the 2 best GM's in the league.
- Ihatebrianburke

sather certainly has his flaws (UFA signings) but he has a knack for fixing his mistakes extremely well.

Suter also has 10X the talent at the forward positions than Weber. If Shea had Parise and Heatley out there...teams could not key on him like they currently do. There are no scary players on the ice with Weber at any time.
- PoileRulezzzYo

maybe....I love weber. I wasn't hating, he's a beast.

but regardless of teammates, I sorta always thought suter was better. they're different players of course, but I think weber missed suter way more than the other way around

you know nothing jon snow
- rangerdanger94

garth snow?

It wasn't an insult
- OilHorse

Thank you!!!!!!

hard to argue after the bruins series but I'd still take Letang hands down everyday and trice on sundays...
- ChrisMS

the rangers bruins series or the penguins bruins series?

It sounds like firing Kruger wasn't the original plan, and somewhere along the road, MacTavish figured out that he had the inside track on Dallas Eakins. It's the only explanation for the sudden firing and quick hire of a guy that interviewed with multiple teams.
- buffalofan19

I think he didn't want to lose him to Vancouver after he had his 2nd interview there.

mcdonagh > letang as an overall defenseman bro.
- rangerdanger94

debateable. maybe though. i'm a big fan of mcdonagh actually. very solid. mighta overlooked him abit when I made that list

but I think letangs defensive deficiencies are abit exaggerated though. hes an offensive guy first of course, but he plays pk and a lot of tough minutes too. he's an adequate defender at least, combined with being an elite skater and offensive talent.

the rangers bruins series or the penguins bruins series?
- rangerdanger94

I think he was referring to letangs struggles against boston

you know nothing jon snow
- rangerdanger94

I'm not a bastard

I think he was referring to letangs struggles against boston
- hugefemale dog77

well he said after watching the series he said he'd pick letang hands down which is why i was confused haha.

I think he was referring to letangs struggles against boston
- hugefemale dog77

yup

well he said after watching the series he said he'd pick letang hands down which is why i was confused haha.
- rangerdanger94

even after that debacle I still think Letang is one of those A+ players... Mcdunaugh an A.

Our 1st round and Marincin and Fedun for Couturier and a second round 2013.

sather certainly has his flaws (UFA signings) but he has a knack for fixing his mistakes extremely well.
- rangerdanger94

I think the stupid UFA contracts are more him listening to ownership to throw large amounts of money around for marketing purposes than his own ineptness