In terms of a trade scenario it's not great for either team as they are trading from a weak position. Anyone who looks at the Flyers cap scenario for next season can see the team is operating from a vulnerable position, especially on defence. The Oilers publicly stating they are ditching Shawn Horcoff puts them in a position of weakness as well. We need a 3rd line centre, and if this trade was to happen it would likely be Couturier next season with Lander hopefully pushing in the near future.

Would likely depend on where each player ends up. Not that risky a move for either team, in my opinion.
- bazmagoo

Petry's value to this team >>>>>>>>>> That of a 3rd center (It's not even remotely close actually)

I'm all for signing a defensemen through free agency, but that would be in addition to what we have right now. D is by far our weakest position... Trade Petry, and we're (frank)ed. If we need a 3C, look for one through free agency... Leave Petry alone.

I think both Petry and Couturier will go on to have excellent NHL careers. But any one who thinks Petry is a 1st pairing defenceman on a playoff team is fooling themselves, he's 2nd pairing at best. Nothing wrong with that, he'll be solid at that position for many years to come. Couturier has the potential to be a solid 2nd line centre in the future and at worst a solid 3rd line centre, so personally I think that's more valuable to the Oilers than Petry.

If im the Flyers, I dont move at all. 11 should yeild you one of Zardorov / Ristoleninen. Unless your boner for Nurse is massive, I dont move anyone for anything. Buy out Bryz and Briere. Sign Streit for too much money, pick up Miller for whatever and you'll be back to 5/6th in the east next year.
- JShack

Mason looked really good at the end of the year, but I can see them going after 1A. Just cant see Miller going there.

who do oilers fans think has more value, Hall or Eberle?

not trolling, just curious.

Just one thing about the Krueger firing - personally I could never understand his philosophy of rolling 4 lines every game. Reading interviews he stated he thought this got everyone on the team into the game. Personally I think it's still best to roll 3 solid scoring lines who can all play defence (which is a huge flaw on our team) and one tough get in your face line.

Just my opinion.

I think both Petry and Couturier will go on to have excellent NHL careers. But any one who thinks Petry is a 1st pairing defenceman on a playoff team is fooling themselves, he's 2nd pairing at best. Nothing wrong with that, he'll be solid at that position for many years to come. Couturier has the potential to be a solid 2nd line centre in the future and at worst a solid 3rd line centre, so personally I think that's more valuable to the Oilers than Petry.
- bazmagoo

Who exactly do you suggest we acquire to both replace Petry and strengthen our further weakened D corps? What do you give up/pay for players? It doesnt matter that isnt a legit top pairing guy; we need everyone we can get right now especially guys like Petry.

I think both Petry and Couturier will go on to have excellent NHL careers. But any one who thinks Petry is a 1st pairing defenceman on a playoff team is fooling themselves, he's 2nd pairing at best. Nothing wrong with that, he'll be solid at that position for many years to come. Couturier has the potential to be a solid 2nd line centre in the future and at worst a solid 3rd line centre, so personally I think that's more valuable to the Oilers than Petry.
- bazmagoo

But its not if we already have a 1st line C in Nuge and a very solid 2 C in Gagner. We may not be deep at center but our need for NHL ready defeceman out weighs our need for Couturier. Whats most desirable about SC is high size and potential. 1 of the 2 we already have a lot of. I'd sooner see us move it in a package for someone likeeeee Bouwmeester, Yandle or Shatenkirk. Couturier is good and worth way more than our 7th and probably Petry, but not to the oilers this season or the near future

who do oilers fans think has more value, Hall or Eberle?

not trolling, just curious.
- SuperHenderson13

Hall without a second thought.

who do oilers fans think has more value, Hall or Eberle?

not trolling, just curious.
- SuperHenderson13

Likely Hall. Still amazes me how many times the puck gets turned over while he's in possession, yet he's top 10 in scoring. What happens if he manages to slowly eliminate the cheap turn overs while he's got the puck? Watch out, this kid could be top 10 in scoring for many years to come.

am i the only one who thinks edmonton will play the isles in the cup finals in the next 5 years. gonna be nuts with all these young guys.

in the mean time i hope the lightning play some southern team like the ducks or dallas just to piss everyone in the nhl off.

who do oilers fans think has more value, Hall or Eberle?

not trolling, just curious.
- SuperHenderson13

To the Oilers hall is worth double since he's a LW with size. Both lead by example. Quite honestly, I think those two are attached at the hip. I dont want to see either leave, but if i had to choose, Eberle is gonzo.

Just one thing about the Krueger firing - personally I could never understand his philosophy of rolling 4 lines every game. Reading interviews he stated he thought this got everyone on the team into the game. Personally I think it's still best to roll 3 solid scoring lines who can all play defence (which is a huge flaw on our team) and one tough get in your face line.

Just my opinion.
- bazmagoo

His philosophy was one predicated upon having a balanced and multi-faceted roster of players. He never had this so he didnt succeed. He also struggled with adapting and evolving his system and strategies.

But its not if we already have a 1st line C in Nuge and a very solid 2 C in Gagner. We may not be deep at center but our need for NHL ready defeceman out weighs our need for Couturier. Whats most desirable about SC is high size and potential. 1 of the 2 we already have a lot of. I'd sooner see us move it in a package for someone likeeeee Bouwmeester, Yandle or Shatenkirk. Couturier is good and worth way more than our 7th and probably Petry, but not to the oilers this season or the near future
- JShack

It the Oilers have any plans to pull the trigger on a deal involving Petry, they absolutely 100% better have a plan on how to replace him. Could not agree with you more on that.

However, the topic of the blog is how the Oilers could trade for Couturier, and I think a trade involving Petry would be the most likely scenario for that to happen.

am i the only one who thinks edmonton will play the isles in the cup finals in the next 5 years. gonna be nuts with all these young guys.

in the mean time i hope the lightning play some southern team like the ducks or dallas just to piss everyone in the nhl off.
- boltsfan48

If anything I see the Lightning being the next force out of east. I think the move to get a goalie and your eventual signing/drafting of Drouin(MY PERSONAL FAV in this years draft) has really improved your franchise. You'll have to figure out how to beat boston, though.

It the Oilers have any plans to pull the trigger on a deal involving Petry, they absolutely 100% better have a plan on how to replace him. Could not agree with you more on that.

However, the topic of the blog is how the Oilers could trade for Couturier, and I think a trade involving Petry would be the most likely scenario for that to happen.
- bazmagoo

You're probably right in that the only thing the Flyers could possibly want from our backend would be Petry. But im not of the group that wants to keep getting younger and continue our forever-rebuild. It's too bad we dont have 7 Petry's so we could spare one.

I think the unknown this summer is how crazy the buyout period is going to be. There are going to be lots of NHL players with talent, who maybe had a bad year or two, available at a reasonable cost. Could be an unforseen (at this time) opportunity or two available to the team.

I think the unknown this summer is how crazy the buyout period is going to be. There are going to be lots of NHL players with talent, who maybe had a bad year or two, available at a reasonable cost. Could be an unforseen (at this time) opportunity or two available to the team.
- bazmagoo

Most anticipated off-season in a while it would seem. I'm right (frank)in stoked!

Most anticipated off-season in a while it would seem. I'm right (frank)in stoked!
- MaximumBone

Justin think of all the over paid player on cap strapped teams that could be had for cheap.

For every Horcoff we lose, there could be a Richards gained.

So what we're talking about here is the Oilers moving their 1st round pick (7th overall) to the Flyers for Sean Couturier, who was drafted 8th overall two years ago. Perhaps you throw in a second asset, like a 2nd round pick or a prospect, to make the deal happen.

Really? There are so many reasons the flyers would not make this deal:

1. Why would we give up a proven NHL player with a huge upside for something that might pan out?
2. Why would we trade one of our best assets for something that might, or might not, be a viable player? We are in effect talking about trading up 4 spots.
3. Perhaps you throw in a second asset? Haha, what?! Moving up four spots and a 2nd pick for Cooter?!
4. We did not move him to aquire Weber - why would we do it this time?
5. We could trade him, but that would be in a whole different package. Remember - Coots is great defensively, so the defensive gain here is not that big. Really.

My guess is that these are thoughts being thrown around the Edmonton offices, not something the Flyers would even consider. I can not, in my wildest imagination, see Homer even considering doing this move. If anything, Coots might be traded to get us up to 4th-2nd, not 7th.

That said, I am very biased, and I might value Coots too high. And, we have a loose cannon as our GM so you never know.

Would be an awesome move for Edmonton though!

Justin think of all the over paid player on cap strapped teams that could be had for cheap.

For every Horcoff we lose, there could be a Richards gained.
- JShack

A lot of teams wont have cap space to be in on these players and some of them may be less demanding in price as theyre already making a healthy amount for being bought out!

Richard Cloutier: Couturier to Oilers?

If you're the Flyers, you're likely interested in adding a defensive prospect like a Martin Marincin or Taylor Fedun.
- Maxbone

Also, I have zero faith in our organizations abiity to foster a true D-man. Our history with drafting defenders is very, very, very poor. Us getting a top D prospect would likely be a loss both for us, the player himself and hockey as a sport.

I dont see us moving any prospect with the name Marincin or Klefbom UNLESS its in a package for a legit top 2 defender. Cough Shattenkirk cough Bouwmeester cough

7th and Klefbom for a Signed Shattenkirk or Klef and a 2nd for bouwmeester?

Just one thing about the Krueger firing - personally I could never understand his philosophy of rolling 4 lines every game. Reading interviews he stated he thought this got everyone on the team into the game. Personally I think it's still best to roll 3 solid scoring lines who can all play defence (which is a huge flaw on our team) and one tough get in your face line.

Just my opinion.
- bazmagoo

Not to rip on you dude, but that will never work. Kruger has it right when you roll all four lines. Not only does it keep guys in the game, but look at the hawks and bruins, one thing they've done great this postseason is roll all four lines and often enough it's those fourth line guys winning games. Bostons fourth line killed the rangers, the hawks fourth line took it to the kings. It really pays off in over time, you saw both the hawks and bruins play their fourth lines in OT where as the kings and pens were did not and didn't use them for more then a breather for their stars. That fourth line can't simply be a tuff line that you put out to make a few big hits and get in fights. Whitch is why the oilers traded for brown, if they wanted guys to sit on the bench and only play a few minutes in none key aspects of the game eager and hordachuck would still have jobs. There will be nights when your top lines just don't come through thats why you need those bottom two lines to be more then just tuffs. Greggory camble is a fourth line center do you doubt his willingness to pay the price for his team and be albe to make game changing plays or kills? Thats what a good fourthline does and if i'm not much mistaken after cambell broke his leg, played another minutes the bruins played ten times better from that point on. Thats the kind of tuffness the oilers need. Now thats just my opinion

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- laughs2907

As long as Hall, Yakupov, RNH, O.Klefbom and J.Schultz are staying in edmonton I'm ok with whatever MacT decides. Preferably would also love to hang onto the number seven pick to get one of Nurse, Monahan, Lindholm or Nichushkin but I'll leave that up to MacTavish.
- oilers2k14

ur ok with trading ebs?