You don't know that. Bryzgalov has proven in the past that he can play at a high level with a team that plays well defensively, in the past.
- MJL

didn't help him in the plyoffs w/ PHO, did it?

didn't help him in the plyoffs w/ PHO, did it?
- isaiah520

Are you going to ignore whatever doesn't fit your premise? How about in Anaheim? This is a player that has been a finalist for the Vezina Trophy.

Strombone ‏@strombone1 7m

Hey @NHLFlyers I'm more of a #poopthebed kinda guy but I'm willing to try anything at least once..... #poopthebeach pic.twitter.com/0mXNT2MrTV



If Luongo was as good on ice as he is on twitter, he'd have a row of Stanley Cups

The value of defensemen is completely out of whack right now. It is. It's one thing to be a good player. But when you start talking multiple, quality assets for one player, then you aren't just a good player. You're a difference maker. You change your entire unit by the minutes you play, the matchups you face.

Is Keith Yandle that guy? Seriously? He isn't even "that guy" in Phoenix -- Oliver Ekman-Larsson is!
- AllInForFlyers

reality is, that's their mkt value and i don't think it's going to change anytime soon. all the more reason to draft and develop your own.

reality is, that's their mkt value and i don't think it's going to change anytime soon. all the more reason to draft and develop your own.
- isaiah520

Agreed -- man. The Flyers are never patient, and that's good and bad. You can't always wait for tomorrow at the expense of today.

But can we at least draft a couple of defensemen on June 30 before we start trading Top-10 draft picks who are still developing? There should be no rush right now -- we just missed the playoffs, certainly, but in a 48-game season. Claude Giroux's only 25 years old!

We just don't have to do anything right now.

Are you going to ignore whatever doesn't fit your premise? How about in Anaheim? This is a player that has been a finalist for the Vezina Trophy.
- MJL

i'll leave that to you. if you want to rely on stats from 6 yrs ago when he was a back up, go ahead. might as well say martin gerber would have led CAR to the cup in '06.

he's a system goalie, who is average over all at this point. nothing wrong with sticking it out w/ him another yr if there wasn't a cap, a recapture clause and some credible doubts about whether he wants to be here or not.

i'll leave that to you. if you want to rely on stats from 6 yrs ago when he was a back up, go ahead. might as well say martin gerber would have led CAR to the cup in '06.

he's a system goalie, who is average over all at this point. nothing wrong with sticking it out w/ him another yr if there wasn't a cap, a recapture clause and some credible doubts about whether he wants to be here or not.
- isaiah520

Yes, let's ignore actual data from games that were actually played as a reference to the player, and how he has played very well at times, in a playoff setting. In favor of complete speculation that Chicago could have never beaten Detroit with Bryzgalov in net. That can't be backed with any facts. And those stats I referenced were for playoff games that he started. Not as a backup.

The decision of what to do with the Bryzgalov in Philly, is completely separate, and pretty much irrelevant to the original statement you made, that I replied to.

That is a different discussion all together.

i'll leave that to you. if you want to rely on stats from 6 yrs ago when he was a back up, go ahead. might as well say martin gerber would have led CAR to the cup in '06.

he's a system goalie, who is average over all at this point. nothing wrong with sticking it out w/ him another yr if there wasn't a cap, a recapture clause and some credible doubts about whether he wants to be here or not.
- isaiah520

I'm all for moving on from Bryz. Doesn't make much sense to keep him around for another year and than buy him out. Not worth the risk.

Agreed -- man. The Flyers are never patient, and that's good and bad. You can't always wait for tomorrow at the expense of today.

But can we at least draft a couple of defensemen on June 30 before we start trading Top-10 draft picks who are still developing? There should be no rush right now -- we just missed the playoffs, certainly, but in a 48-game season. Claude Giroux's only 25 years old!

We just don't have to do anything right now.
- AllInForFlyers

Let the young core grow and with a goalie like Mason (Bernier if Flyers want him). I'm okay with giving some of these younger defenseman a chance. They will make mistakes but they will continue to grow. No need to panic. Don't make a trade unless you feel its impossible to turn down.

Agreed -- man. The Flyers are never patient, and that's good and bad. You can't always wait for tomorrow at the expense of today.

But can we at least draft a couple of defensemen on June 30 before we start trading Top-10 draft picks who are still developing? There should be no rush right now -- we just missed the playoffs, certainly, but in a 48-game season. Claude Giroux's only 25 years old!

We just don't have to do anything right now.
- AllInForFlyers

there aren't any easy answers, but i see two possible directions for this coming year. 1) trade for a guy like mcbain who hasn't developed the way they thought or 2) aim higher and go after a yandle or shattenkirk. the former would likely cost at least something like cousins and a draft pick and the latter would require moving couts or schenn+.

as far as drafting, the team has a solid 1st rnd track record of drafting quality centers and i don't think they will vary from that. from the 2nd rnd on, i would lean towards dmen if they value is close however. their track record with drafting top 4 dmen & starting goalies is horrific the last 25 yrs, so i dunno what to say but keep trying and look at possible scouting upgrades...that, and try to exercise more patience.

Yes, let's ignore actual data from games that were actually played as a reference to the player, and how he has played very well at times, in a playoff setting. In favor of complete speculation that Chicago could have never beaten Detroit with Bryzgalov in net. That can't be backed with any facts. And those stats I referenced were for playoff games that he started. Not as a backup.

The decision of what to do with the Bryzgalov in Philly, is completely separate, and pretty much irrelevant to the original statement you made, that I replied to.

That is a different discussion all together.
- MJL

only you would pick an argument about a post that was as much a goof as anything.

only you would pick an argument about a post that was as much a goof as anything.
- isaiah520

You and I both know there wasn't an ounce of goof in the intent of that response.

only you would pick an argument about a post that was as much a goof as anything.
- isaiah520

Don't feel bad, nobody's even responded to the last 4 or 5 things I've posted.

and cooter isn't "that guy" in philly schenn is
- 2Real

Don't feel bad, nobody's even responded to the last 4 or 5 things I've posted.




- Jsaquella

you gotta point there. i oughta feel imPOtent...and i guess i should dress imPOtent as well...

you gotta point there. i oughta feel imPOtent...and i guess i should dress imPOtent as well...
- isaiah520

I like Cloutier's blog. Flyers are going to trade Couturier to move up 4 spots in the draft? Yea, okay!

I like Cloutier's blog. Flyers are going to trade Couturier to move up 4 spots in the draft? Yea, okay!
- MJL

I think he said they would get other assets in the deal as well.

I like Cloutier's blog. Flyers are going to trade Couturier to move up 4 spots in the draft? Yea, okay!
- MJL

Actually he's suggesting trading the 7th overall pick and another pick(he mentioned a second rounder) for Couturier. No mention of the 11th pick.

Actually he's suggesting trading the 7th overall pick and another pick(he mentioned a second rounder) for Couturier. No mention of the 11th pick.
- Jsaquella

Would you make that deal?

You would have picks #7, #11, plus 2nd rounder or another prospect ?

I think this may be the offseason Yandle gets dealt because I just wonder what the budget will be for payroll, no matter who owns it. I have to believe they don't want to be anywhere near the ceiling. Can they financially afford 3 players making over $5 million/year with OEL's extension starting. Certainly OEL and Doan aren't going anywhere. Not to mention, Smith is an UFA looking for a raise. I think he can be traded for, the Yotes definitely need forward help with a reasonable cap hit.

Would you make that deal?

You would have picks #7, #11, plus 2nd rounder or another prospect ?
- stveshdy

Not certain, but I'd definitely think long and hard about it. Maybe 7 & 11 combined can get you in the top 3

Not certain, but I'd definitely think long and hard about it. Maybe 7 & 11 combined can get you in the top 3
- Jsaquella

I think I would keep both picks and stack my team for the future. I would also need another prospect dman in return. Not sure I would want a second rounder.

I think this may be the offseason Yandle gets dealt because I just wonder what the budget will be for payroll, no matter who owns it. I have to believe they don't want to be anywhere near the ceiling. Can they financially afford 3 players making over $5 million/year with OEL's extension starting. Certainly OEL and Doan aren't going anywhere. Not to mention, Smith is an UFA looking for a raise. I think he can be traded for, the Yotes definitely need forward help with a reasonable cap hit.
- ravishingone

Definitely a possibility.

I think I would keep both picks and stack my team for the future. I would also need another prospect dman in return. Not sure I would want a second rounder.
- stveshdy

Keep 7 & 11, and then use the two second rounders (37 & 41) to land a late first rounder and a shot at Hagg or Morin