Players not playing to expectations or having slow starts (Giroux, Briere, Coburn). A lot of blame could be passed around but would have, could have, didn't in a shorten season.
- dingo8urbaby

Fire Stevens!

Fire Stevens!
- 77rams

After the cake...

Tortorella in Dallas Monday and Vancouver today. He's taking the tour.

There's going to ups and downs with players every year. I think the biggest factor by far was the Coaching, followed by the injuries.
- MJL

agreed. the coaching and injuries go hand-in-hand. lava didn't adjust to the tools he had until it was far, far, too leight.

Throwing another completely ramdom subject out there:

How can the CHL ban import goalies going forward in 2014? That's surreal.

Too much expected of Couturier and Schenn out of the gate.
- dingo8urbaby

certainly a part of the issue. combine that with the shortened season and everything else that goes along with it. not going to go well.

This to me is why drafting the best player available seems redundant. We either draft a center or we draft a winger and turn him into a center...
- dingo8urbaby

Say hello to Monahan, Horvat or Gauthier!

I know, I know, Monahan is a great player. But not what we need. If he somehow fell to 11th, which I don't think he will, I'd look to draft/trade him to Columbus or Calgary for an extra 1st round pick (obviously we'd have to give maybe the 41st).

Throwing another completely ramdom subject out there:

How can the CHL ban import goalies going forward in 2014? That's surreal.
- mayorofangrytown

because they're stupid. read a good article on yahoo.ca today about how stupid.

After the cake...
- mayorofangrytown

and dressing room reassignments.

Tortorella in Dallas Monday and Vancouver today. He's taking the tour.

- mayorofangrytown

to me, he's mike keenan-light. don't know how he's even a viable candidate at this point.

Tortorella in Dallas Monday and Vancouver today. He's taking the tour.

- mayorofangrytown

Wonder what Bill's feelings will be if Torts ends up in Dallas. Timmy P and Frankie would be drooling lol.

Okay so what can Philly fans tell me bout John Stevens? He's rumoured to be one of the guys that Gillis really likes. Every Canuck fan seems to be totally against him because of the whole "dry island" fiasco. But what kind of style does he like to play? Is he an X and O's guy or a motivator? Is his actual coaching ability lacking or did he just lose the room in Philly?

Okay so what can Philly fans tell me bout John Stevens? He's rumoured to be one of the guys that Gillis really likes. Every Canuck fan seems to be totally against him because of the whole "dry island" fiasco. But what kind of style does he like to play? Is he an X and O's guy or a motivator? Is his actual coaching ability lacking or did he just lose the room in Philly?
- Nucker101

Dry Island was Laviolette

Dry Island was Laviolette
- aightwebang17

My bad. Shows how familiar I am with Philly's coaches.



Anything you can tell me about Stevens?

Okay so what can Philly fans tell me bout John Stevens? He's rumoured to be one of the guys that Gillis really likes. Every Canuck fan seems to be totally against him because of the whole "dry island" fiasco. But what kind of style does he like to play? Is he an X and O's guy or a motivator? Is his actual coaching ability lacking or did he just lose the room in Philly?
- Nucker101

Defensive style, stresses accountability, good teacher, the players that came up with him from Phantoms were fiercely loyal to him, very measured and level-headed personality.

On the downside, not particularly masterful w/ XO's... not great at instilling on/off-ice discipline (he's more an understanding uncle type), maybe is more of an ideal assistant than head coach.

My bad. Shows how familiar I am with Philly's coaches.



Anything you can tell me about Stevens?
- Nucker101

He's a players coach. Good at developing talents. Brought out the best of Richards, Carter, and Giroux. But like most players coaches, the players stopped responding.

Defensive style, stresses accountability, good teacher, the players that came up with him from Phantoms were fiercely loyal to him, very measured and level-headed personality.

On the downside, not particularly masterful w/ XO's... not great at instilling on/off-ice discipline (he's more an understanding uncle type), maybe is more of an ideal assistant than head coach.
- Tomahawk

Dry as toast.

to me, he's mike keenan-light. don't know how he's even a viable candidate at this point.
- hammarby31

I agree. I wouldn't even consider him. I can't imagine a dressing room in the NHL that would be the least bit happy with his hiring. He's coached himself out of the league and it couldn't happen to a nastier personality.

Okay so what can Philly fans tell me bout John Stevens? He's rumoured to be one of the guys that Gillis really likes. Every Canuck fan seems to be totally against him because of the whole "dry island" fiasco. But what kind of style does he like to play? Is he an X and O's guy or a motivator? Is his actual coaching ability lacking or did he just lose the room in Philly?
- Nucker101

Neither. He was just a Coach that was learning on the job. I'd say he's more of an X and O's guy then a motivator. And I think he's had the benefit of being on a top team for a number of years, to learn from some top Coaches. I think it's a good choice.

Defensive style, stresses accountability, good teacher, the players that came up with him from Phantoms were fiercely loyal to him, very measured and level-headed personality.

On the downside, not particularly masterful w/ XO's... not great at instilling on/off-ice discipline (he's more an understanding uncle type), maybe is more of an ideal assistant than head coach.
- Tomahawk

I think X and O's are his strong point. He is a very good technical Coach. And was known for that. How to handle an NHL team, and the players, was where he needed to grow.

My bad. Shows how familiar I am with Philly's coaches.



Anything you can tell me about Stevens?
- Nucker101

He'd be in the Dallas Eakins category. Good for a young team that needs some developing and encouragement, he could pull them together as a unit and get them to buy in defensively.

I don't see that he's a good fit in Vancouver and I watch a lot of Canuck's hockey over the years on my schedule.

My bad. Shows how familiar I am with Philly's coaches.



Anything you can tell me about Stevens?
- Nucker101

I may not be the best source because I have really one sided views on the guy, but Ill try and give some positives.

He trusts his young players and gives them ice time, while preaching a D first philosophy and primarily a transition attack scheme.

The negatives... If he is hired you should start trying to poison his water supply. He preaches accountability but there were rumors he was far too friendly with players. Weak practices, and his favourite line after the team played like poop: "We did a lot of good things".

I blame him largely for the whole Carter/Richards/Lupul/Upshall party crew situation. All of that crap grew under his tenure and he did nothing to stop it. Those bad habits were formed under his weak and too friendly leadership. Some will give you most positives, but frankly I think he is a terrible motivator, no emotion and useless head coach that any team should run away from. Despise what he did, and let the young stars on this team do by not stopping their bad habits and letting them grow. Hate that guy.

I may not be the best source because I have really one sided views on the guy, but Ill try and give some positives.

He trusts his young players and gives them ice time, while preaching a D first philosophy and primarily a transition attack scheme.

The negatives... If he is hired you should start trying to poison his water supply. He preaches accountability but there were rumors he was far too friendly with players. Weak practices, and his favourite line after the team played like poop: "We did a lot of good things".

I blame him largely for the whole Carter/Richards/Lupul/Upshall party crew situation. All of that crap grew under his tenure and he did nothing to stop it. Those bad habits were formed under his weak and too friendly leadership. Some will give you most positives, but frankly I think he is a terrible motivator, no emotion and useless head coach that any team should run away from. Despise what he did, and let the young stars on this team do by not stopping their bad habits and letting them grow. Hate that guy.
- flyer_nutter

I'm glad you tried to give some positives.

so who else is hoping the flyers pull off a trade to draft valeri nichuskin?

How does trading our best defensive forward for a puck-moving defenseman help us on defense? If a young forward is traded for a defenseman I should hope it's B Schenn. As much as I don't want to see BSchenn go (1. He's a great young player 2. We just united him with his brother 3. I just bought a custom jersey with "Schenns" on the back, with 10 on one arm and 22 on the other ) It's still more logical to trade B Schenn for a defenseman over Coots.