It's a online option (they use it in MLB: The Show) where users can upload rosters/players they created for everyone else to download and use. It is awesome for prospects, especially in baseball, since the guys in the game are only the ones who have played a game in the Bigs the prior season (i.e. Puig is not in this year's game, Harper was not in last years game; until roster updates that is). Some people put together every single player in all 30 organizations.
- NickTheKid87

I remember when I had that kind of time on my hands.

/sadly goes back to work

It's a online option (they use it in MLB: The Show) where users can upload rosters/players they created for everyone else to download and use. It is awesome for prospects, especially in baseball, since the guys in the game are only the ones who have played a game in the Bigs the prior season (i.e. Puig is not in this year's game, Harper was not in last years game; until roster updates that is). Some people put together every single player in all 30 organizations.
- NickTheKid87

So, if I'm in the 2016 season (for example) and have amassed a pretty impressive lineup, could I use a player vault to use that roster as my opening roster for a new Be A GM run?

So, if I'm in the 2016 season (for example) and have amassed a pretty impressive lineup, could I use a player vault to use that roster as my opening roster for a new Be A GM run?
- jmatchett383

If EA made the vaults to work the way they do in the Show, then yes.

I think this would be an awesome thing for EA to do, 1) because people could add NCAA, KHL, USHL players plus fix the ratings of Junior players (because most are way too low).

I remember when I had that kind of time on my hands.

/sadly goes back to work
- johndewar

I use to try to do that but I never had the patience. It's a lot better when someone else does it for you.

You cannot trade cash to a team. The only thing a team can do is retain part of a players salary in a trade. Up to 50%.
And the Flyers did not spread Walker's salary over two years. That is not possible.
- MJL

On Gagne / Walker - yes, the effectively did. Gagne had 3.5 million cap hit for 1 year. Walker had a 1.7 million cap hit for 2 years. With the trade, they were able to spread the 3.5 million over two years instead of taking in 1 year. I think they gave up too much to do that, but had no other choice as they needed the 1.8 in 2011/12.

And I stand corrected (slightly) on the trading cash part. Misworded, but I stand by the spirit of what I said. In a sense you ARE trading the cash. The acquiring team gets a cash flow benefit as they are not paying that player's salary in the early years of the contract. For example Pronger's actual salary is 7 million next year, so if the Flyers paid that and took back a player for 5 million, the trading partner's net cash flow is +5 million.

Again, I doubt they do this vs. just continuing to LTIR him. I was just providing a plausible scenario.

Jarome Iginla 2-yr contract 5mill per season.

thoughts?

Jarome Iginla 2-yr contract 5mill per season.

thoughts?
- MrBigglesworth

I just threw up my breakfast.

Jarome Iginla 2-yr contract 5mill per season.

thoughts?
- MrBigglesworth

I think that's a great signing by Detroit.

On Gagne / Walker - yes, the effectively did. Gagne had 3.5 million cap hit for 1 year. Walker had a 1.7 million cap hit for 2 years. With the trade, they were able to spread the 3.5 million over two years instead of taking in 1 year. I think they gave up too much to do that, but had no other choice as they needed the 1.8 in 2011/12.

And I stand corrected (slightly) on the trading cash part. Misworded, but I stand by the spirit of what I said. In a sense you ARE trading the cash. The acquiring team gets a cash flow benefit as they are not paying that player's salary in the early years of the contract. For example Pronger's actual salary is 7 million next year, so if the Flyers paid that and took back a player for 5 million, the trading partner's net cash flow is +5 million.

Again, I doubt they do this vs. just continuing to LTIR him. I was just providing a plausible scenario.
- TheGreat28

To clarify on the Pronger thing, are you suggesting the Flyers accomplish this by first cutting Pronger's paycheck (in the amount of his full season salary), then trading him? Thus giving their trading partner Pronger's cap hit with the salary already fulfilled?

If EA made the vaults to work the way they do in the Show, then yes.

I think this would be an awesome thing for EA to do, 1) because people could add NCAA, KHL, USHL players plus fix the ratings of Junior players (because most are way too low).
- NickTheKid87

That would be awesome. Effectively, I could have a first defense pairing of Shea Weber and Shea Weber (one being older than the other) with Mike Richards as my second line center and second line LW.

Jarome Iginla 2-yr contract 5mill per season.

thoughts?
- MrBigglesworth

Yep, i'd do it. but I am also a minority (I think) that believes the Flyers need one more 2nd or first line RW. I'd take Clarkson as well. Clowe- no thanks for what he wants and will get, but Homer apparently has a stiffy for him.

Ideally I would sign Streit and a UFA RW for around 10M by buying out Bryz and Briere and then trading Mez.

That would be awesome. Effectively, I could have a first defense pairing of Shea Weber and Shea Weber (one being older than the other) with Mike Richards as my second line center and second line LW.
- jmatchett383

You could probably have a whole team of Zac Rinaldo's with maximum stats, if you wanted.

That would be awesome. Effectively, I could have a first defense pairing of Shea Weber and Shea Weber (one being older than the other) with Mike Richards as my second line center and second line LW.
- jmatchett383

Wait I think I misunderstood; the vault roster would be saved as a roster on your system. Then you'd load it and select "Current" roster like you would normally (unless you choose default). There would be no duplicate players (i.e. the default roster would not merge with the vault roster).

Edit: And you can't load a roster during Be A GM mode, there would not be an exception for a vault roster, which is the part I misunderstood.

On Gagne / Walker - yes, the effectively did. Gagne had 3.5 million cap hit for 1 year. Walker had a 1.7 million cap hit for 2 years. With the trade, they were able to spread the 3.5 million over two years instead of taking in 1 year. I think they gave up too much to do that, but had no other choice as they needed the 1.8 in 2011/12.


- TheGreat28

In terms of Cap hit, that is incorrect. Because they buried Walker in the minors and all of Gagne's cap hit was removed from the cap in trading him. In terms of salary, it's an interesting way of looking at it. But as a fan, that didn't have a lot of effect on me. I don't care how much money the Flyers pay out. Cap space on the other hand, effects the team they put on the ice. The only effect it had Cap wise was the minor effect on the off season Cap.

And I stand corrected (slightly) on the trading cash part. Misworded, but I stand by the spirit of what I said. In a sense you ARE trading the cash. The acquiring team gets a cash flow benefit as they are not paying that player's salary in the early years of the contract. For example Pronger's actual salary is 7 million next year, so if the Flyers paid that and took back a player for 5 million, the trading partner's net cash flow is +5 million.

Again, I doubt they do this vs. just continuing to LTIR him. I was just providing a plausible scenario.
- TheGreat28

This is some twisted logic here. Pronger is owed a little over 12M in salary for the remainder of his contract. So if the Flyers retain 6M of it, the team taking on Pronger would have to pay 6M for a player that isn't going to play. And if the Flyers take a player that will actually play for 5M. That's a 1M difference that the team is still going to have to pay out. Not to mention taking on a player that will bever play, and paying him 6M. Fail to see how that's a net cash flow.

Jarome Iginla 2-yr contract 5mill per season.

thoughts?
- MrBigglesworth

No thanks.

Wait I think I misunderstood; the vault roster would be saved as a roster on your system. Then you'd load it and select "Current" roster like you would normally (unless you choose default). There would be no duplicate players (i.e. the default roster would not merge with the vault roster).

Edit: And you can't load a roster during Be A GM mode, there would not be an exception for a vault roster, which is the part I misunderstood.
- NickTheKid87

Okay, let's say I traded for Shea Weber 2 years into my Be A GM. This is what I'm wondering:
- Would the vault save the entire LEAGUE rosters (i.e. Nashville no longer has Weber, only the players I traded for him) or does it only save MY TEAM'S roster (Nashville has the default NHL 13 roster)?

To clarify on the Pronger thing, are you suggesting the Flyers accomplish this by first cutting Pronger's paycheck (in the amount of his full season salary), then trading him? Thus giving their trading partner Pronger's cap hit with the salary already fulfilled?
- BulliesPhan87

I think with the new rules, they just agree to pay up to half of the contract when it's due. So he would get paid partially by the Flyers and partially by his new team for his upcoming checks, based on the amounts they agree in.

If they Flyers agree to pay 6 million, next year they pay him that and other team pays him 1 million. The other team gets full cap hit of 5 million (rounded up).

Yep, i'd do it. but I am also a minority (I think) that believes the Flyers need one more 2nd or first line RW. I'd take Clarkson as well. Clowe- no thanks for what he wants and will get, but Homer apparently has a stiffy for him.

Ideally I would sign Streit and a UFA RW for around 10M by buying out Bryz and Briere and then trading Mez.
- coffee junkie

I would like to give Brayden Schenn someone with some offensive talent to play with.

Not sure if Iginla is the answer, but I definitely think that 2nd line needs some help. I don't think I'd even pull Jake off of that first line at this point. I think he's locked in there.

Definitely need some secondary scoring help.

I would like to give Brayden Schenn someone with some offensive talent to play with.

Not sure if Iginla is the answer, but I definitely think that 2nd line needs some help. I don't think I'd even pull Jake off of that first line at this point. I think he's locked in there.

Definitely need some secondary scoring help.
- johndewar

Jaromir what's-his-name?

Jaromir what's-his-name?
- jmatchett383

How much is he going to want?

Jagr is great. But what will it cost?

I think filling this role will come from raiding the bargain bin at the post-CBO market and not through signing a big name guy.

Okay, let's say I traded for Shea Weber 2 years into my Be A GM. This is what I'm wondering:
- Would the vault save the entire LEAGUE rosters (i.e. Nashville no longer has Weber, only the players I traded for him) or does it only save MY TEAM'S roster (Nashville has the default NHL 13 roster)?
- jmatchett383

No, it would work the same as any roster you load prior to starting your Be A GM including if you use the default roster. If you've ever edited a roster to use for your Be A GM, it would work the same way as that.

This is some twisted logic here. Pronger is owed a little over 12M in salary for the remainder of his contract. So if the Flyers retain 6M of it, the team taking on Pronger would have to pay 6M for a player that isn't going to play. And if the Flyers take a player that will actually play for 5M. That's a 1M difference that the team is still going to have to pay out. Not to mention taking on a player that will bever play, and paying him 6M. Fail to see how that's a net cash flow.
- MJL

It's become apparent to me that I don't understand the new CBA rules about keeping cap and/or salary. Can a team keep actual salary, while getting the full cap hit off the books?

How much is he going to want?

Jagr is great. But what will it cost?

I think filling this role will come from raiding the bargain bin at the post-CBO market and not through signing a big name guy.
- johndewar

Less than $5M, has a past history with the team, and will likely take a 1-year deal (assuming he doesn't retire).

I would like to give Brayden Schenn someone with some offensive talent to play with.

Not sure if Iginla is the answer, but I definitely think that 2nd line needs some help. I don't think I'd even pull Jake off of that first line at this point. I think he's locked in there.

Definitely need some secondary scoring help.
- johndewar

I think Schenn should play with Voracek. G and Jake were good together but both guys open up the ice for others and love to have the puck. I think you could get more production by having them on different lines.

No, it would work the same as any roster you load prior to starting your Be A GM including if you use the default roster. If you've ever edited a roster to use for your Be A GM, it would work the same way as that.
- NickTheKid87

Okay. Damn. Got me all excited.