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Forums :: Blog World :: John Toperzer: To Bylsma or not to Bylsma, that is the poll question
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
Just so you know, Crosby is making more than 10M per season for a while, different CBA, different wiggle room.
- Gunner Staal


I understand that, but its the cap that matters. Kane/Toews, Zetterberg/Datsyuk, ect....no other team has that much money committed to just 2 players. As good as Malkin is, I think that cap hit would hurt the depth of the team.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
I understand that, but its the cap that matters. Kane/Toews, Zetterberg/Datsyuk, ect....no other team has that much money committed to just 2 players. As good as Malkin is, I think that cap hit would hurt the depth of the team.
- sammy87


The cap is going to go up every single freaking year.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
The Pens and Rangers tried to out tough the Bruins.... the Maple Leafs tried to outskate them (and came the closest to beating them).

It will be interesting to see what Chicago does... They have the horses to outskate them, but with playoff officiating, maybe the Bruins can slow them down enough to negate that?

- rival22


The difference between Chicago v. Boston and Pittsburgh v. Boston is simple. Chicago's coach is better and Chicago's defense is better. They won't get sucked into playing Boston's game. Qville makes adjustments.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
LOL ... that helps Philly's defense how exactly? It gives them a point man on the power play and a possible replacement for the declining Timonen.
- Oneonta Penguin


Philly logic, let's replace a 38 y/o with a 35 y/o
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
I understand that, but its the cap that matters. Kane/Toews, Zetterberg/Datsyuk, ect....no other team has that much money committed to just 2 players. As good as Malkin is, I think that cap hit would hurt the depth of the team.
- sammy87


Do you realize the cap will continue to go up every year after this year? Stop it.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:39 PM ET
The difference between Chicago v. Boston and Pittsburgh v. Boston is simple. Chicago's coach is better and Chicago's defense is better. They won't get sucked into playing Boston's game. Qville makes adjustments.
- Oneonta Penguin


If you listened to Hawk fans Quenneville would have been fired by now too.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:41 PM ET
Streit is going to want at least a Gonchar deal ($5 million per year), and the Flyers are already well over the cap.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 12 @ 1:42 PM ET
Do you realize the cap will continue to go up every year after this year? Stop it.
- Oneonta Penguin


Isn't the growth of the cap limited under the new CBA? Under the original CAP enforced the cap went from 40-70, some teams struggled to meet the floor...Isnt that why they had a lockout to stop that from happening again?
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:43 PM ET
The cap is going to go up every single freaking year.
- Gunner Staal


It's possible it can get up to 85 mil in 8 years.

http://m.theglobeandmail....le7029575/?service=mobile
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 12 @ 1:43 PM ET
Streit is going to want at least a Gonchar deal ($5 million per year), and the Flyers are already well over the cap.
- rival22


More moves coming.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:47 PM ET
It's possible it can get up to 85 mil in 8 years.

http://m.theglobeandmail....le7029575/?service=mobile

- drummer829


Yeah.... and if we get another team move (or expansion), revenue will skyrocket. Just the Islanders to Brooklyn will give it a bump.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
Yeah.... and if we get another team move (or expansion), revenue will skyrocket. Just the Islanders to Brooklyn will give it a bump.
- rival22


If it does get to that, it will be interesting to see the values of some players, remember 3 years ago when Scuderi got over 3 mil per season and it was a borderline overpayment. Letang getting 7 mil now may seem like a lot, but 5 years from now that may look like a good deal
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
With Gonchar and Streit off the market, there really are no more even decent offensive defensmen UFA's.

Couldn't be a better sellers' market for the Pens to move Letang...
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 12 @ 1:51 PM ET
More moves coming.
- Deadstar

A couple obvious buyouts, for starters. I don't like this trade, though. Why not just pursue him in the offseason?
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 12 @ 1:52 PM ET
A couple obvious buyouts, for starters. I don't like this trade, though. Why not just pursue him in the offseason?
- BulliesPhan87


I dont get it either. Streit would help the Flyers, but trading for players ahead of the UFA deadline is usually useless and leads to paying market value anyway.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:57 PM ET
A couple obvious buyouts, for starters. I don't like this trade, though. Why not just pursue him in the offseason?
- BulliesPhan87



Obvious, I assume Bryz and Briere?

You guys might be in a world of hurt next year. Giroux, Brayden Schenn and the next coming of Ron Francis (Couturiere) are RFAs and Reed is a UFA
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:00 PM ET
Obvious, I assume Bryz and Briere?

You guys might be in a world of hurt next year. Giroux, Brayden Schenn and the next coming of Ron Francis (Couturiere) are RFAs and Reed is a UFA

- Oneonta Penguin


The best player in the world deserves the highest salary in the NHL
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
The best player in the world deserves the highest salary in the NHL
- drummer829



LOL


Well, right now those four I mentioned make a combined 9.135 million. I think that will be upped quite a bit. Schenn is GROSSLY overpaid. 3.11 million for what?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:03 PM ET
Obvious, I assume Bryz and Briere?

You guys might be in a world of hurt next year. Giroux, Brayden Schenn and the next coming of Ron Francis (Couturiere) are RFAs and Reed is a UFA

- Oneonta Penguin


Only good thing is that Timonen and Meszaros come off next summer, and that is $10 million.

nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Well I can't wait to see Bylsma trying his best to get his team playing Pittsburgh Penguins hockey again

I just don't see this ending up well.... I do think Shero took the blame as far the deadline acquisitions go.... and he deserves some of it... but Bylsma has got to learn how to adapt in a game... its inferiorating
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:26 PM ET
Well I can't wait to see Bylsma trying his best to get his team playing Pittsburgh Penguins hockey again

I just don't see this ending up well.... I do think Shero took the blame as far the deadline acquisitions go.... and he deserves some of it... but Bylsma has got to learn how to adapt in a game... its inferiorating

- nelson911


Shero couldn't have done better at the deadline. A+
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 12 @ 2:43 PM ET
Shero couldn't have done better at the deadline. A+
- ChrisMS

Morrow for Morrow... I dunno about that...I could understand because he thought that was probably the only forward he was gonna get but Morrow didn't look good all year... and lets face it in a Bylsma system, the guy wasn't gonna do well.

I was ok with the Iginla trade, asset wise but it was really just done in a rush decision. I blame Bylsma more in this instance for not finding a proper spot, ie. left wing and letting Sid just dictate what the lines are.

Murray and Jokinen were fine acquisitions
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
I take my shots, so I'll accept some in return.

Flyers interested in Streit.

Joke.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 2:57 PM ET
I take my shots, so I'll accept some in return.

Flyers interested in Streit.

Joke.

- Daman


Flyer's whole cap situation is a joke.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jun 12 @ 3:02 PM ET
If it does get to that, it will be interesting to see the values of some players, remember 3 years ago when Scuderi got over 3 mil per season and it was a borderline overpayment. Letang getting 7 mil now may seem like a lot, but 5 years from now that may look like a good deal
- drummer829



It will also be interesting to see how many empty seats start cropping up in arenas if it gets to $85 mil a year and even the cheapest seat in the rafters is $150/game
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