Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1h Streit's agent, Pat Brisson will begin negotiations with Paul Holmgren today. A 4 year deal is the target.


Get 'r done Homer!

Flyer's whole cap situation is a joke.
- cap1681

exactly. People think the Pens are in trouble cap wise. Maybe those people should look at Philly, which has a worse cap problem.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1h Streit's agent, Pat Brisson will begin negotiations with Paul Holmgren today. A 4 year deal is the target.


Get 'r done Homer!
- canadianpenfan

Paul Holmgren is one of the biggest retards of a GM as there is, along with Sather, Feaster and the goof in Vancouver. I hope he goes a four-year deal with Streit.

I mean goofball extended a declining Timonen last year for 6 million. What a joke.

exactly. People think the Pens are in trouble cap wise. Maybe those people should look at Philly, which has a worse cap problem.
- Oneonta Penguin

Maybe today you are correct. We'll see.

In two years, Pitt may be in worse shape.

If the Flyers sign Streit, there will be more moves. Too many D-men at over $4m per year.

I think the Pens could actually use a d-men that the Flyers have in excess (i.e. stay at home type that is physical).

Coburn + DaMan's blogging rights (equivalent of a first rounder) for Letang and a second rounder?

Well I can't wait to see Bylsma trying his best to get his team playing Pittsburgh Penguins hockey again

I just don't see this ending up well.... I do think Shero took the blame as far the deadline acquisitions go.... and he deserves some of it... but Bylsma has got to learn how to adapt in a game... its inferiorating
- nelson911

Well... as long as they get to their game...

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 1h Streit's agent, Pat Brisson will begin negotiations with Paul Holmgren today. A 4 year deal is the target.


Get 'r done Homer!
- canadianpenfan

You've spent too much time on the Flyers board!

Maybe today you are correct. We'll see.

In two years, Pitt may be in worse shape.

If the Flyers sign Streit, there will be more moves. Too many D-men at over $4m per year.

I think the Pens could actually use a d-men that the Flyers have in excess (i.e. stay at home type that is physical).

Coburn + DaMan's blogging rights (equivalent of a first rounder) for Letang and a second rounder?
- Daman

You don't have any defensemen we would want. Your defense is terrible. You don't have enough to offer for Letang either. Your blogging rights are a negative in the deal. Coburn is worthless to me.

Pittsburgh won't be in worse shape in two years. Take a look at who really needs to be signed. Some of those guys will be 36 years old. That is a pass. It's not hard.

Morrow for Morrow... I dunno about that...I could understand because he thought that was probably the only forward he was gonna get but Morrow didn't look good all year... and lets face it in a Bylsma system, the guy wasn't gonna do well.

I was ok with the Iginla trade, asset wise but it was really just done in a rush decision. I blame Bylsma more in this instance for not finding a proper spot, ie. left wing and letting Sid just dictate what the lines are.

Murray and Jokinen were fine acquisitions
- nelson911

You gotta wonder if he would have got Morrow if he landed Iggy first?

The Morrow trade by itself wasn't bad, but when you add Iginla too, it didn't look as good.

exactly. People think the Pens are in trouble cap wise. Maybe those people should look at Philly, which has a worse cap problem.
- Oneonta Penguin

Doesn't matter, that team has no problem buying out Briere and Bryz and then they somehow get to keep Pronger on LTIR for his entire contract when in reality he will never play again... They'll have 10 mil in cap space when its all said and done with Streit signed, but with no number 1 goalie.

Shero couldn't have done better at the deadline. A+
- ChrisMS

It didn't matter he got an A+ because the end result was a D. So, looking back - was your boy Iggy a great pick up? LOL

You gotta wonder if he would have got Morrow if he landed Iggy first?

The Morrow trade by itself wasn't bad, but when you add Iginla too, it didn't look as good.
- rival22

Agreed I don't think he would have if it were reversed.

Doesn't matter, that team has no problem buying out Briere and Bryz and then they somehow get to keep Pronger on LTIR for his entire contract when in reality he will never play again... They'll have 10 mil in cap space when its all said and done with Streit signed, but with no number 1 goalie.
- nelson911

Aside from Streit, the bolded piece is something I can't comprehend. That is an easy buyout. Holmgren is dumber than anything if he doesn't use one of those buyouts on Pronger.

Interesting, we have 1 side of folks who want to throw Bylsma off a bridge because the he can't adjust his team if the initial plan doesn't work. While the other half think the penguins played good and are happy with the Penguins playing well 70% of the series against the Bruins.

Which side shall I join.

It will also be interesting to see how many empty seats start cropping up in arenas if it gets to $85 mil a year and even the cheapest seat in the rafters is $150/game
- akane13

Half the teams are in the red already. If it goes that high a lot of teams will be hurting.

Aside from Streit, the bolded piece is something I can't comprehend. That is an easy buyout. Holmgren is dumber than anything if he doesn't use one of those buyouts on Pronger.
- Oneonta Penguin

If he could some way trade Briere then I agree but if he can get away with the LTIR loophole why not use it all the way to the end of his contract. Bryz and Briere buyouts get his team under the cap, gets a full roster, and 10 mil for depth and a number one goalie.

Doesn't matter, that team has no problem buying out Briere and Bryz and then they somehow get to keep Pronger on LTIR for his entire contract when in reality he will never play again... They'll have 10 mil in cap space when its all said and done with Streit signed, but with no number 1 goalie.
- nelson911

The LTIR loophole needs to be addressed, at least in the later years. With these guys on the long contracts that go to like 39-40-41 years of age, you can't really expect most of them to play that long.

Pronger is going to turn 39 in October, and the Flyers get cap relief for the next 4 seasons.

The recapture penalty sounds great, but no one will ever have to pay it, because all the player/team has to do is say that he is too injured to keep playing and put them on LTIR.

Aside from Streit, the bolded piece is something I can't comprehend. That is an easy buyout. Holmgren is dumber than anything if he doesn't use one of those buyouts on Pronger.
- Oneonta Penguin

You can't buyout an injured player.

You don't have any defensemen we would want. Your defense is terrible. You don't have enough to offer for Letang either. Your blogging rights are a negative in the deal. Coburn is worthless to me.

Pittsburgh won't be in worse shape in two years. Take a look at who really needs to be signed. Some of those guys will be 36 years old. That is a pass. It's not hard.
- Oneonta Penguin

Flyers defense may suck.

Each Pen D-man may be better than our best D-man

However, when you assigned no value to Da Man's blogging rights, well, we all realize you have no street cred.

Interesting, we have 1 side of folks who want to throw Bylsma off a bridge because the he can't adjust his team if the initial plan doesn't work. While the other half think the penguins played good and are happy with the Penguins playing well 70% of the series against the Bruins.

Which side shall I join.
- kgrpitt

The problem is that you are just seeing things in black and white extremes.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, and unless you can guarantee that another coach will take this team further than the conference finals, I'm not sure firing him is the right move.

I would have liked to see a change, but it's not the end of the world for me that he's back.

Flyers defense may suck.

Each Pen D-man may be better than our best D-man

However, when you assigned no value to Da Man's blogging rights, well, we all realize you have no street cred.
- Daman

You sound like a Toronto fan.....overvaluing their assets

The problem is that you are just seeing things in black and white extremes.

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, and unless you can guarantee that another coach will take this team further than the conference finals, I'm not sure firing him is the right move.

I would have liked to see a change, but it's not the end of the world for me that he's back.
- rival22

Those weren't my opinions, they were what I was reading from people on here. I was pointing out the same thing you just said. People are always on the extreme. Whether one extreme or the other. It just doesn't seem like many here anymore have the ability to to see the negatives and positives of situations. Everyone is either "OMG FIRE BYLSMA" or "Pens suck trade/fire everyone".

Those weren't my opinions, they were what I was reading from people on here. I was pointing out the same thing you just said. People are always on the extreme. Whether one extreme or the other. It just doesn't seem like many here anymore have the ability to to see the negatives and positives of situations. Everyone is either "OMG FIRE BYLSMA" or "Pens suck trade/fire everyone".
- kgrpitt

Lol.. this board and fanbase in general is bi-polar...

In the middle of a winning streak - "We are unbeatable... Let's plan the parade"
A week later after dropping 2 games - "F%&K Bylsma... this team sucks... bunch of underacheivers... trade everyone"

Sorta like Alexei Yashin?
- rival22

This exchange made me laugh.

Lol.. this board and fanbase in general is bi-polar...

In the middle of a winning streak - "We are unbeatable... Let's plan the parade"
A week later after dropping 2 games - "F%&K Bylsma... this team sucks... bunch of underacheivers... trade everyone"


- rival22

This is true. I thought this is how most fan bases are but since coming out here I see that Flyer fans are just delusional 100% of the time. hah!

So basically with keeping bylsma fleury is staying and the only question on the roster is going to be letang and now I think they will keep him so they will enter next season with a very similar roster so why should anyone expect anything different in the playoffs