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icedog97
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.20.2005

Jun 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
That's really dumb. They could get Yandle for the long run. He'd help a lot.
- Orpik44


Yandle hits like an American League pitcher.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
I could see the Oilers making a push for Letang. Would take the 8th pick, a current roster player, and probably 2 prospects to get it done. That should be ballpark range for a return.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
That's really dumb. They could get Yandle for the long run. He'd help a lot.
- Orpik44


He would be a bigger need for the Flyers than the next coming of Ron Francis who has a long, long, long, long, long, long way to go before coming Ron Francis at 60%. They need defense and a PMD. They could have gotten it by making the move and not having to pay a 4th rounder and give Streit anywhere between 4.5-5 million per year for a 35 year old PMD that isn't great on the D.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:44 AM ET
I could see the Oilers making a push for Letang. Would take the 8th pick, a current roster player, and probably 2 prospects to get it done. That should be ballpark range for a return.
- cap1681


The other team would be Carolina. They need blueliners. I just don't see a match. A first and ???
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
It seems as though you confused DaMan with a Flyers fan... I dont even know if he is human.
- jak521


More God like? Even I admit that's a stretch, but thanks for such high praise.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
The other team would be Carolina. They need blueliners. I just don't see a match. A first and ???
- Oneonta Penguin



Jordan Staal.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:48 AM ET
I could see the Oilers making a push for Letang. Would take the 8th pick, a current roster player, and probably 2 prospects to get it done. That should be ballpark range for a return.
- cap1681



Screw the picks. Letang for Eberle straight up.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:48 AM ET
I could see the Oilers making a push for Letang. Would take the 8th pick, a current roster player, and probably 2 prospects to get it done. That should be ballpark range for a return.
- cap1681

That seems pretty steep at first glance but it's almost what we got for Staal. I mentioned earlier this year an Eberle for Letang swap. Assuming they negotiated with Letang prior to
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:48 AM ET
Jordan Staal.
- canadianpenfan


So, the deal would be Letang for Dumoulin, Pouliot, Sutter and another first round pick, in essence?

Staal would be nice to have back, but he doesn't solve the cap issue one iota.

I don't see a match as far as a return.

Columbus has some interesting assets; so does Colorado
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
Does Letang have a NMC? If so Eberle would be a nice return.

I was thinking about Fleury, after last season everyone wanted to run Martin out of town, well not he is the best Dman we have. Perhaps Fleury can turn his game around. He has the skill level.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
So, the deal would be Letang for Dumoulin, Pouliot, Sutter and another first round pick, in essence?

Staal would be nice to have back, but he doesn't solve the cap issue one iota.

I don't see a match as far as a return.

Columbus has some interesting assets; so does Colorado

- Oneonta Penguin

I think he was being fatuous.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
I'll give you this.... Once Rinaldo learned a little self control, he was pretty effective. He really deserved more ice time down the stretch.
- madmike71


Rinaldo is very effective in his role. However, Rinaldo isn't the type of player that will push this team towards the top.

We need another all star level winger. I don't consider Harts that player.

I think Voracek is great and all but we need someone better than Read, Harts and Simmonds.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
So, the deal would be Letang for Dumoulin, Pouliot, Sutter and another first round pick, in essence?

Staal would be nice to have back, but he doesn't solve the cap issue one iota.

I don't see a match as far as a return.

Columbus has some interesting assets; so does Colorado

- Oneonta Penguin


Not once this yr have I watched the 3rd line and thought "The Pens need Staal" he was good, but he wasnt a game changer.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
Screw the picks. Letang for Eberle straight up.
- canadianpenfan


Let me preface this by saying I like Eberle alot and I would do that on the surface. However, Edmonton wouldn't because they would be scared to lose Letang after one year. He wouldn't resign there.

Does Eberle make us more play-off ready in that deal? Sure, it would open up another trade of someone like Neal or Kunitz, for other pieces.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
I could see the Oilers making a push for Letang. Would take the 8th pick, a current roster player, and probably 2 prospects to get it done. That should be ballpark range for a return.
- cap1681


For that sort of return, I would think that they'd have to be able to talk to Letang and work out an extension before hand though.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
So, the deal would be Letang for Dumoulin, Pouliot, Sutter and another first round pick, in essence?

Staal would be nice to have back, but he doesn't solve the cap issue one iota.

I don't see a match as far as a return.

Columbus has some interesting assets; so does Colorado

- Oneonta Penguin


Colorado! Package deal with MAF. I'm sure Roy would like to take a shot at fixing Fleury.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
Rinaldo is very effective in his role. However, Rinaldo isn't the type of player that will push this team towards the top.

We need another all star level winger. I don't consider Harts that player.

I think Voracek is great and all but we need someone better than Read, Harts and Simmonds.

- Daman



OMG ... I agree with this post.

I felt putting Rinaldo on that list is a joke. He will never be what you would call a core player that is a difference maker. Same with McGinn; same with Gusty. He is a very effective pest. But, he pales in comparison to Matt Cooke. He will never reach that level as far as the type of player Cooke is.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
For that sort of return, I would think that they'd have to be able to talk to Letang and work out an extension before hand though.
- rival22


Just looking at what Staal got last year. Letang is probably equal to more value than Staal, and you have more than 1 team bidding for him.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
OMG ... I agree with this post.

I felt putting Rinaldo on that list is a joke. He will never be what you would call a core player that is a difference maker. Same with McGinn; same with Gusty. He is a very effective pest. But, he pales in comparison to Matt Cooke. He will never reach that level as far as the type of player Cooke is.

- Oneonta Penguin

Did you just compare Gustafsson with Cooke?
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
Here's a question that popped into my head. Who would have ever thought the Penguins would get swept in a swept in a series where they didn't allow a PP goal? It still boggles the mind. I bring this up because I've been evaluating Murray's work as a Penguin, and even though slow, when used situationally, we was a force down low, especially on the PK. I'd like to see him again, more than Morrow and Iggy.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
For that sort of return, I would think that they'd have to be able to talk to Letang and work out an extension before hand though.
- rival22


I think this will be a requirement to get full value for Letang regardless the team.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:56 AM ET
So, the deal would be Letang for Dumoulin, Pouliot, Sutter and another first round pick, in essence?

Staal would be nice to have back, but he doesn't solve the cap issue one iota.

I don't see a match as far as a return.

Columbus has some interesting assets; so does Colorado

- Oneonta Penguin



dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:56 AM ET
Let me preface this by saying I like Eberle alot and I would do that on the surface. However, Edmonton wouldn't because they would be scared to lose Letang after one year. He wouldn't resign there.

Does Eberle make us more play-off ready in that deal? Sure, it would open up another trade of someone like Neal or Kunitz, for other pieces.

- Oneonta Penguin

That's not a question that can be answered. Eberle would bring a lot of skill and youth to an area where we currently have none outside of Bennett. Letang leaving would open up a spot for Despres who might not be as productive offensively but could be better defensively at some point. Also you could assume Eberle would replace Letangs points. Lot of variables I think Letang is a special player but he's earned the right to make a lot of money if he wants that you take the best deal available. Your not going to get many better players then Eberle
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:00 AM ET

- canadianpenfan



I played along.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:01 AM ET
Did you just compare Gustafsson with Cooke?
- BulliesPhan87


No. I said Rinaldo isn't close to being a Matt Cooke as far as doing good things on the ice and won't reach that level.
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