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Forums :: Blog World :: John Toperzer: To Bylsma or not to Bylsma, that is the poll question
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:26 AM ET
Ray is basically giving him one more chance. No doubt if the results are the same next year, he'll be gone. Just because his extension is for two more years, doesn't mean he'll survive it.

Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:27 AM ET
Ray is basically giving him one more chance. No doubt if the results are the same next year, he'll be gone. Just because his extension is for two more years, doesn't mean he'll survive it.
- madmike71


Therrien signed a 3 year extension in 2008.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
they aren't also going on 15 game winning streaks as well as be number 1 in the conference...

atleast with babcock he has coached his way into the Stanley cup enough times to keep his job. Wings arnt getting blown out in games and shut out by lesser teams...

as well as not going 0-15 on the pp

- nh4442


He's won 1 cup with the Red Wings, 2 Stanley Cup finals. He has also lost in the 1st or 2nd round 5 of the 8 years he's been their coach.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:28 AM ET
Therrien signed a 3 year extension in 2008.
- Gunner Staal


Exactly.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
They lost 3 in a row....in the playoffs. System failure?
- Deadstar


3 in a row in each of the last 3 seasons.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 12 @ 11:31 AM ET
3 in a row in each of the last 3 seasons.
- madmike71


Yes Babcock has too. Look it up.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:32 AM ET
He's won 1 cup with the Red Wings, 2 Stanley Cup finals. He has also lost in the 1st or 2nd round 5 of the 8 years he's been their coach.
- cap1681


And since Byslma broke in the league in the 2009 playoffs, him and Babcock have identical 28-22 records.

Would I have been happy to try a new coach with a new approach? Yes, I would. But it's hard to get too upset about this.

And I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of people who hate Bylsma, will hate the next coach by the halfway part of their first season.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:33 AM ET
sorry gunner, another cup...

and a lot of people have said that was therriens team and style... and bylsma made small corrections that won...

he was out coached in every playoff series

0-15 against bos...

- nh4442



Bylsma should shoot more.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
Ray is basically giving him one more chance. No doubt if the results are the same next year, he'll be gone. Just because his extension is for two more years, doesn't mean he'll survive it.
- madmike71



No, Ray realizes he's a good coach and that blaming his team failure on Bylsma is weak.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:35 AM ET
MAF staying too.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

Jun 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Well there's your answer, he was just signed for two more years to coach the Pens.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
MAF staying too.
- madmike71


Don't read into anything Shero says about Fleury. It is window dressing. Actions will speak louder than words as it pertains to MAF.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:46 AM ET
Don't read into anything Shero says about Fleury. It is window dressing. Actions will speak louder than words as it pertains to MAF.
- Gunner Staal


I don't know Gunner, he sounded really emphatic. After several years of listening to him, he's a pretty honest guy. After hearing those statements, he's staying.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
I don't know Gunner, he sounded really emphatic. After several years of listening to him, he's a pretty honest guy. After hearing those statements, he's staying.
- madmike71


Said the same stuff about Jordan Staal 1 month before trading him.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 12 @ 11:52 AM ET
This press conference is great
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Said the same stuff about Jordan Staal 1 month before trading him.
- Gunner Staal


Different contract situation. Staal said himself that his decision to turn down the contract from the Pens was pretty much a last minute thing.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
Now that Bylsma is off the market, coaching dominoes have to start falling today around the league right?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
Different contract situation. Staal said himself that his decision to turn down the contract from the Pens was pretty much a last minute thing.
- madmike71


Its not a different concept. He isn't going to bad mouth "assets" that he still has control of.

What does Shero gain by saying the Penguins are going to move on from Fleury at a press conference today?
Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
I like the Bylsma extension. It give him 2 years to figure it out. If it hasn't happened after that, it's new blood time.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
I'm sorry, but the Boston series wasn't Blysma's fault competely. Some of it was, but you can put the blame on players as well. Crosby had his worse 4 game stretch in his career, just to name one.
- cap1681


No, you can't. But his plan against Boston sucked.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:12 PM ET
Don't read into anything Shero says about Fleury. It is window dressing. Actions will speak louder than words as it pertains to MAF.
- Gunner Staal



MAF is a goner.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
Do the Blues fire Hitchcock? Wings havent been in a Conference Final since 2009, should the Wings can Babcock?
- Gunner Staal


But the thing is that they don't have a complete meltdown like the pens do. The red wings team was mediocre yet they took the hawks to 7 games. The blues simply lack scoring and like the kings rely too heavily on defense. Quick was also unbelievable against the blues. If the change isn't coaching, then what is it going to be, because its obvious bylsmas system isn't getting anything done.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
But the thing is that they don't have a complete meltdown like the pens do. The red wings team was mediocre yet they took the hawks to 7 games. The blues simply lack scoring and like the kings rely too heavily on defense. Quick was also unbelievable against the blues. If the change isn't coaching, then what is it going to be, because its obvious bylsmas system isn't getting anything done.
- drummer829


They were up 3-1. Losing 3 straight is a meltdown.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 12 @ 12:18 PM ET
They were up 3-1. Losing 3 straight is a meltdown.
- cap1681


No style points in the playoffs, just the end results.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
They were up 3-1. Losing 3 straight is a meltdown.
- cap1681


Against a very talented hawks team? That would be like if the pens came back against the senators down 3-1. Not a melt down at all. Being embarassed by Philly last year, barely getting by the isles and getting swept by the bruins is a meltdown
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