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Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
Malkin has his cup im sure he doesnt care never struck me as a team first player
- hubie


He just left about 20M on the table by not testing the market.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
Haha yeah being 23, I just hope I dont rub off on them too early.
- Dr3aMWeav3r


Youll be great I am sure. Congrats!
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
I always like to think if it were me in that situation, I'd take a pay cut for say, 6- 7 million. Because hey, I'm not greedy.

Who knows what I'd do with the 9.5 contact sitting in front of me though.

- david22



A lot of bad decisions that can be bought with that extra 3.5 mil....
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
I always like to think if it were me in that situation, I'd take a pay cut for say, 6- 7 million. Because hey, I'm not greedy.

Who knows what I'd do with the 9.5 contact sitting in front of me though.

- david22

Tell me about it. When my dream was to be in the nhl way back when, I didnt even know they paid them. Oh to be young and stupid.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:21 AM ET
He just left about 20M on the table by not testing the market.
- Gunner Staal


You think he'd fetch $13M / year?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
I always like to think if it were me in that situation, I'd take a pay cut for say, 6- 7 million. Because hey, I'm not greedy.

Who knows what I'd do with the 9.5 contact sitting in front of me though.

- david22


I have the same thoughts, but like you said, who is going to turn that down is presented to them?

If i were a gm i would try to set my roseter up with a crap load of great Players. Easier said than done though.

First 2 forward lines - $5 mil a player (30)
First 2 D pairings - $5 mil a player (20)
3rd forward line - $2 Mil a player (6)
4th forward line - 800K a player (2.4)
3rd D pairing - 800K a player (1.6)

Starting Goalie - 3Mil
Backup - 1Mil

Total 64Mil
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
You think he'd fetch $13M / year?
- jmatchett383

Hmm I wonder which team would be the one to go all in..
simethos
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
You think he'd fetch $13M / year?
- jmatchett383


I think he meant in terms of signing bonuses and options that would put him over what Pittsburgh gave him.

I'm glad he's re-signed. All Shero has to do now is figure out a way to get Cooke and Dupuis back. Cooke's up in the air, but I think Dupuis will take a discount to remain a Penguin.

Iginla, Morrow, and Murray can move on to greener pastures. I enjoyed them, but I don't want Shero going crazy to keep them.

Letang is a whole other headache entirely...
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
You think he'd fetch $13M / year?
- jmatchett383


12M/year in the open market. Somebody would give it to him. The cap is going down for next year but after that it is only going to go up up up.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
Malkin has his cup im sure he doesnt care never struck me as a team first player
- hubie


He could have gotten FAR more on the open market, or back in Russia, and you'd kill to have him in Buffalo at that number.
Dr3aMWeav3r
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Human Paraquat, VA
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jun 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
Youll be great I am sure. Congrats!
- Beezer33

Thank you
devereau
Buffalo Sabres
Location: port hope via Buffalo
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
DENVER POST: Adrian Dater reports Buffalo Sabres director of amateur scouting Kevin Devine said his club has contacted the Colorado Avalanche to express interest in the first overall pick. Dater wrote “immediate speculation” on one deal “goes like this: goalie Ryan Miller, center Mikhail Grigorenko, a defensive prospect and the No. 8 pick to the Avs for the first pick.” He believes the Avs should reject such an offer, citing Miller’s age, salary and UFA status next summer, and doesn’t consider Grigorenko in the same class as Nathan MacKinnon.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t know where Dater got that “immediate speculation” from, as I doubt that’s what’s been offered by the Sabres, if they’ve made a serious pitch at all. Still, I agree with Dater such a package offer from the Sabres wouldn’t be worthy of parting with the first overall pick.



In case anyone didn't see.

- SABRES 89



If they want more than that I might have to pass.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
You think he'd fetch $13M / year?
- jmatchett383



He certainly would have been well over a 9.5 AAV.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Geno gets 9.5? Sets the market high. Is Vanek 2/3 the player Malkin is?

Malkin - 560 points since 06-07 (217 Goals, 458 Games played)
Vanek - 440 points since 06-07 (225 Goals, 504 Games played)*

If you ignore the fact that Malkin is a Center on a very good team, Vanek is 21% less productive. Although it seems as though Lil geno gets hurt more often.

That would put Vanek averaging 7.5 mil a year in his next contract. Reasonable to think he will command about 7/year


*05-06 stats (48 points) omitted for better comparison

RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
He just left about 20M on the table by not testing the market.
- Gunner Staal


He left his legacy intact by staying on a good team.

Of course if there isn't a NMC/NTC this contract makes him a very valuable trade commodity.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
Geno gets 9.5? Sets the market high. Is Vanek 2/3 the player Malkin is?

Malkin - 560 points since 06-07 (217 Goals, 458 Games played)
Vanek - 440 points since 06-07 (225 Goals, 504 Games played)*

If you ignore the fact that Malkin is a Center on a very good team, Vanek is 21% less productive. Although it seems as though Lil geno gets hurt more often.

That would put Vanek averaging 7.5 mil a year in his next contract. Reasonable to think he will command about 7/year


*05-06 stats (48 points) omitted for better comparison

- RynoBull


Vanek is going to cash in as well. The question will be if it is worth investing in him from a Sabres perspective.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
He left his legacy intact by staying on a good team.

Of course if there isn't a NMC/NTC this contract makes him a very valuable trade commodity.

- RynoBull


He has a NMC.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
If they want more than that I might have to pass.
- devereau



Pfffft. It's Freakorenko! and he is the next great 2nd/3rd line center
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
Geno gets 9.5? Sets the market high. Is Vanek 2/3 the player Malkin is?

Malkin - 560 points since 06-07 (217 Goals, 458 Games played)
Vanek - 440 points since 06-07 (225 Goals, 504 Games played)*

If you ignore the fact that Malkin is a Center on a very good team, Vanek is 21% less productive. Although it seems as though Lil geno gets hurt more often.

That would put Vanek averaging 7.5 mil a year in his next contract. Reasonable to think he will command about 7/year


*05-06 stats (48 points) omitted for better comparison

- RynoBull


Vanek is going to be the top UFA in the market in 2014, easily throw on a 15% markup on his current cap hit because of it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
Geno gets 9.5? Sets the market high. Is Vanek 2/3 the player Malkin is?

Malkin - 560 points since 06-07 (217 Goals, 458 Games played)
Vanek - 440 points since 06-07 (225 Goals, 504 Games played)*

If you ignore the fact that Malkin is a Center on a very good team, Vanek is 21% less productive. Although it seems as though Lil geno gets hurt more often.

That would put Vanek averaging 7.5 mil a year in his next contract. Reasonable to think he will command about 7/year


*05-06 stats (48 points) omitted for better comparison

- RynoBull

In FA, Vanek will get at least 7. If I were the Sabres I would try to do 6 for 40. He probably wouldn't accept, hence move him
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:35 AM ET
He has a NMC.
- Gunner Staal



Good.
He did what we all wish superstars would do. Take a large, but resonable, sum of money to stay.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
12M/year in the open market. Somebody would give it to him. The cap is going down for next year but after that it is only going to go up up up.
- Gunner Staal


Well, it IS nice to know that the owners league-wide are ensuring us that we won't have another lockout with these reasonable short-term contracts.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
Well, it IS nice to know that the owners league-wide are ensuring us that we won't have another lockout with these reasonable short-term contracts.
- jmatchett383


The lockout was about getting a 50/50 split.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 13 @ 10:40 AM ET
DENVER POST: Adrian Dater reports Buffalo Sabres director of amateur scouting Kevin Devine said his club has contacted the Colorado Avalanche to express interest in the first overall pick. Dater wrote “immediate speculation” on one deal “goes like this: goalie Ryan Miller, center Mikhail Grigorenko, a defensive prospect and the No. 8 pick to the Avs for the first pick.” He believes the Avs should reject such an offer, citing Miller’s age, salary and UFA status next summer, and doesn’t consider Grigorenko in the same class as Nathan MacKinnon.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: I don’t know where Dater got that “immediate speculation” from, as I doubt that’s what’s been offered by the Sabres, if they’ve made a serious pitch at all. Still, I agree with Dater such a package offer from the Sabres wouldn’t be worthy of parting with the first overall pick.


In case anyone didn't see.

- SABRES 89


So its basically grig, #8 and A prospect. IF mackinnon is the next Stamkos then you pull the trigger. if the prospect in demand is Armia, then maybe no.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 13 @ 10:40 AM ET
Well, it IS nice to know that the owners league-wide are ensuring us that we won't have another lockout with these reasonable short-term contracts.
- jmatchett383


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