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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 13 @ 8:26 PM ET
I'd take him at 8. In fact, my latest mock has Buffalo taking him and Anthony Mantha in round 1.
- Jawallstar1


I want us to take Shinkaruk at 8... and whatever dman is still on the board between risto/zadorov/nurse/puluck... if none of them look like they could be available then we try to trade up for one... mantha is a great scorer and tall but I have read he is no where near ready or polished.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:40 PM ET
no way jose, would rather have the myers and 3rd overall proposal
- DDM-Coga


Myers and 3rd overall isnt worth it IMO. Drouin or Barkov are just a sliver under mckinnon in worth that its not worth trading away Myers for such a slight upgrade.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 8:41 PM ET
Ristolainen
- dadeadhead


Is that your guy in this draft? (assuming we pick at 8)
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
I know I go against the grain at times and I will here again I guess.
I would not mind Kaner in a Sabre sweater.
As a matter of fact I would love it to be 100% honest.

I know I know.....I'm expecting a goose pile anytime soon.

- BuffaloHardHat

I wouldn't mind him with some extra compete players on the team. Like he would be #2 and not the #1 then i would be ok with it .Think of him and Lafontaine on the same team.

theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 13 @ 8:45 PM ET
I want us to take Shinkaruk at 8... and whatever dman is still on the board between risto/zadorov/nurse/puluck... if none of them look like they could be available then we try to trade up for one... mantha is a great scorer and tall but I have read he is no where near ready or polished.
- JVince11


For the type of defenseman Buffalo needs -- Steve Santini. And absolutely no to Shinkaruk at 8.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:45 PM ET
I want us to take Shinkaruk at 8... and whatever dman is still on the board between risto/zadorov/nurse/puluck... if none of them look like they could be available then we try to trade up for one... mantha is a great scorer and tall but I have read he is no where near ready or polished.
- JVince11

I think we end up getting the Klingon at 8th. no different than any of the other maybes above him.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
For the type of defenseman Buffalo needs -- Steve Santini. And absolutely no to Shinkaruk at 8.
- theblueandgold

Why not ? He has been talked about as the same skill and drive as the top 5 . This is a deep draft. can't have everyone in the top 5.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jun 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
Is that your guy in this draft? (assuming we pick at 8)
- Rally_Shots

I want MacKinnon bad he has been my #1 guy long before the memorial cup but if I had to predict I think Darcy will trade up to 4 with Nashville and take Barkov.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 13 @ 8:50 PM ET
I want us to take Shinkaruk at 8... and whatever dman is still on the board between risto/zadorov/nurse/puluck... if none of them look like they could be available then we try to trade up for one... mantha is a great scorer and tall but I have read he is no where near ready or polished.
- JVince11

I'm a huge supporter of Shinkaruk, but we gotta go Lindholm if he's there. IMO he's got Nicklas Backstrom written all over him. I wouldn't be surprised to see Shinkaruk ending up as a Kessel, either...
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:52 PM ET
I want MacKinnon bad he has been my #1 guy long before the memorial cup but if I had to predict I think Darcy will trade up to 4 with Nashville and take Barkov.
- sabresfandan


But what it would take to get him is astronomical . Unless Darcy does a holy F^ck deal. (if Darcy is still here)
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:53 PM ET
Why not ? He has been talked about as the same skill and drive as the top 5 . This is a deep draft. can't have everyone in the top 5.
- cabin


Ive already been over this discussion before and got chastised for it.

Anyways, I really think Lindholm will slip to us at 8. Hes not ready to come to the NHL, he will be staying overseas for 1 more year. That eliminates Carolina, Calgary who need help immediately, and there are players available for them to take. Edmonton isnt looking for a player like Lindholm. MacKinnon, Barkov or Monahan are their targets. So if Edmonton doesnt trade 7 away, we will get Lindholm at 8.

If Lindholm, Nichushkin or Ristolainen are on the board at 8, im taking either of them over Shinkaruk.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:54 PM ET
Ive already been over this discussion before and got chastised for it.

Anyways, I really think Lindholm will slip to us at 8. Hes not ready to come to the NHL, he will be staying overseas for 1 more year. That eliminates Carolina, Calgary who need help immediately, and there are players available for them to take. Edmonton isnt looking for a player like Lindholm. MacKinnon, Barkov or Monahan are their targets. So if Edmonton doesnt trade 7 away, we will get Lindholm at 8.

If Lindholm, Nichushkin or Ristolainen are on the board at 8, im taking either of them over Shinkaruk.

- theblueandgold

sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jun 13 @ 8:54 PM ET
But what it would take to get him is astronomical . Unless Darcy does a holy F^ck deal. (if Darcy is still here)
- cabin

I personally don't want us to take Barkov, I want a top 3 pick bad. This draft is loaded but the top 3 stand alone for sure IMO
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
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Jun 13 @ 8:55 PM ET
Ive already been over this discussion before and got chastised for it.

Anyways, I really think Lindholm will slip to us at 8. Hes not ready to come to the NHL, he will be staying overseas for 1 more year. That eliminates Carolina, Calgary who need help immediately, and there are players available for them to take. Edmonton isnt looking for a player like Lindholm. MacKinnon, Barkov or Monahan are their targets. So if Edmonton doesnt trade 7 away, we will get Lindholm at 8.

If Lindholm, Nichushkin or Ristolainen are on the board at 8, im taking either of them over Shinkaruk.

- theblueandgold


I agree with that. Lindholm would be a great pic. The way these team are going into the draft is driving everyone nuts.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:56 PM ET
I agree with that. Lindholm would be a great pic. The way these team are going into the draft is driving everyone nuts.
- cabin

I know everybody is super anxious to see what kinda movement we will see
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:57 PM ET
I personally don't want us to take Barkov, I want a top 3 pick bad. This draft is loaded but the top 3 stand alone for sure IMO
- sabresfandan

Ive heard great things about Barkov as well. Wish i had a more live evaluation to go on with all the players .
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 8:59 PM ET
I personally don't want us to take Barkov, I want a top 3 pick bad. This draft is loaded but the top 3 stand alone for sure IMO
- sabresfandan

In all honesty, what does a guy who's set to go 3 like Drouin give you over someone like Nichuskin who could easily be going 5th?

Speed? - I'd give it to Drouin barely, Nichushkin's a very good skater.
Skill? - Several experts have said Nichushkin has the most skill in the draft.
Size? - Obviously Nichuskin.
Physicality? - Nichuskin, but not by a crazy amount, both aren't too grindy.
Shot? - Nichushkin.
Passing? - Drouin.

I honestly wouldn't mind settling for a Nichushkin... Way cheaper than getting a top-3 pick.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 9:00 PM ET
I know everybody is super anxious to see what kinda movement we will see
- sabresfandan


I think some more office movement will happen. Ruff is still under contract and rumer is he turned doen the Rags offer to stay with the sabres. When asked why since he is fired and done with the sabres? all he did was wink and smile and walk away.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jun 13 @ 9:02 PM ET
I think some more office movement will happen. Ruff is still under contract and rumer is he turned doen the Rags offer to stay with the sabres. When asked why since he is fired and done with the sabres? all he did was wink and smile and walk away.
- cabin

Really? Where'd you hear this cabby?
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 13 @ 9:03 PM ET
I think some more office movement will happen. Ruff is still under contract and rumer is he turned doen the Rags offer to stay with the sabres. When asked why since he is fired and done with the sabres? all he did was wink and smile and walk away.
- cabin


I'll be extremely disappointed if Ruff was given GM, AGM, or any type of player management executive role.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
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Jun 13 @ 9:04 PM ET
In all honesty, what does a guy who's set to go 3 like Drouin give you over someone like Nichuskin who could easily be going 5th?

Speed? - I'd give it to Drouin barely, Nichushkin's a very good skater.
Skill? - Several experts have said Nichushkin has the most skill in the draft.
Size? - Obviously Nichuskin.
Physicality? - Nichuskin, but not by a crazy amount, both aren't too grindy.
Shot? - Nichushkin.
Passing? - Drouin.

I honestly wouldn't mind settling for a Nichushkin... Way cheaper than getting a top-3 pick.

- LetsGoBuffalo75

And if he falls that far ? yes . same chance as the others of making it .
Sabres F@#$ked this draft by winning the last games . Next year this team as it stands will be better. And would prolly make the playoffs. We are tired of missing a star player.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 9:05 PM ET
Really? Where'd you hear this cabby?
- sabresfandan

co-worker has relative friend of Ruffs.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jun 13 @ 9:07 PM ET
In all honesty, what does a guy who's set to go 3 like Drouin give you over someone like Nichuskin who could easily be going 5th?

Speed? - I'd give it to Drouin barely, Nichushkin's a very good skater.
Skill? - Several experts have said Nichushkin has the most skill in the draft.
Size? - Obviously Nichuskin.
Physicality? - Nichuskin, but not by a crazy amount, both aren't too grindy.
Shot? - Nichushkin.
Passing? - Drouin.

I honestly wouldn't mind settling for a Nichushkin... Way cheaper than getting a top-3 pick.

- LetsGoBuffalo75

I agree with taking a chance on a guy like Nichushkin I think he is going to be a steal in this draft, I'd take him over Barkov but I'd still rather have MacKinnon,Jones or Drouin before him.
sabresfandan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tim Murray is bad a$$, NY
Joined: 06.16.2007

Jun 13 @ 9:08 PM ET
co-worker has relative friend of Ruffs.
- cabin

Yeah but when would a move like this take place? The organization wouldn't do something like that right before the draft.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
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Jun 13 @ 9:08 PM ET
I agree with taking a chance on a guy like Nichushkin I think he is going to be a steal in this draft, I'd take him over Barkov but I'd still rather have MacKinnon,Jones or Drouin before him.
- sabresfandan

Would be the same as taking Gringo. He will be good and help keep Nich here istead of the KHL. IMO
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