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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:59 PM ET
I worry about the years in the context of the over 35 rule. That being said, he could be just fine and play all four seasons mostly injury free and it turns out to be a good deal. Timo did just fine playing till that age for the most part.

I guess we will see, it was a risk on the Flyers part but when have they not taken risks? Lets hope he stays relatively healthy.

- MBFlyerfan

for the Flyers?
that will be a miracle indeed
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
Yeah you're right. Every team in the league can take Pitt to 6 games with 2 OT games. What does the playoffs have to do with the shortened season? I understand getting into the playoffs, but once in the playoffs, the lockout can't be an excuse.
- NYI44


Ill put it in this context. I think this team was just getting its act together by the time the season ended. Laviolette had finally adjusted the system to reflect the skill set of his players. Had this been a full season, I think they would have had plenty of time to turn it around.

I think the Isles would have still made the playoffs, and I think it would have been the Rangers who faltered.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
for the Flyers?
that will be a miracle indeed

- Marc D


One can pray cant he?
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:01 PM ET
Ill put it in this context. I think this team was just getting its act together by the time the season ended. Laviolette had finally adjusted the system to reflect the skill set of his players. Had this been a full season, I think they would have had plenty of time to turn it around.

I think the Isles would have still made the playoffs, and I think it would have been the Rangers who faltered.

- MBFlyerfan

Thank you. I agree completely
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:01 PM ET
If you want a top UFA YOU ARE GOING TO OVERPAY.
That simple!

- FLYERSROCK!


That's more or less the case for avoiding the UFA frenzy in a nutshell.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:02 PM ET
We couldn't just sign Marc-Andre Bergeron like everyone else trying to bridge a gap?
- dingo8urbaby


Sure, we could...but Marc-Andre Bergeron can't play 5v5.

At worst, Mark Streit is still a Top 6 defenseman. The Islanders had to play him more minutes because, to be honest, their options were even less appealing than the Flyers' in the bottom pair.

The Flyers can protect Streit a little better than the Islanders can, because no matter what anyone thinks of Kimmo Timonen, Luke Schenn and Nicklas Grossmann, those guys are more effective in the defensive and neutral zones than Joe Finley, Matt Carkner, and Thomas Hickey.

That's just a straight-up fact. Not ripping the Islanders, but that's a fact -- we can "hide" Streit better, take advantage of what he does well and minimize what he doesn't.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:02 PM ET
Flyers were terrible last year with the breakout pass 5v5. Streit will help with that a whole lot
- Crimsoninja

This.

If I saw one more puck lobbed 30ft up in the air into the neutral zone by a D man I was going to vomit.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
Sure, we could...but Marc-Andre Bergeron can't play 5v5.

At worst, Mark Streit is still a Top 6 defenseman. The Islanders had to play him more minutes because, to be honest, their options were even less appealing than the Flyers' in the bottom pair.

The Flyers can protect Streit a little better than the Islanders can, because no matter what anyone thinks of Kimmo Timonen, Luke Schenn and Nicklas Grossmann, those guys are more effective in the defensive and neutral zones than Joe Finley, Matt Carkner, and Thomas Hickey.

That's just a straight-up fact. Not ripping the Islanders, but that's a fact -- we can "hide" Streit better, take advantage of what he does well and minimize what he doesn't.

- AllInForFlyers

they better be

Streit's plus minus #s the last few seasons are not good
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
Mark Streit signs 5.25 Million per. We're in OT of a regular season game. The other team takes a penalty and we have the man advantage, 4 on 3. Does Streit get to see play?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
One can pray cant he?

- MBFlyerfan

put in some words for grossmann, mezzy and bourdon then too

pronger... no
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
they better be

Streit's plus minus #s the last few seasons are not good

- Marc D

look at his team and line partners though...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:05 PM ET
That's more or less the case for avoiding the UFA frenzy in a nutshell.
- Tomahawk



You know what makes the case for not avoiding the UFA frenzy? That every top team has done it, and added key players to enable them to have success, through Free Agency.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
Mark Streit signs 5.25 Million per. We're in OT of a regular season game. The other team takes a penalty and we have the man advantage, 4 on 3. Does Streit get to see play?
- dingo8urbaby

yes I think he is playing for certain in that situation
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
these little sound bites miss so much of the picture

a puck moving offensive defenseman is one of their biggest needs

and to get one they either had to over pay a UFA like Streit or trade away Couturier

come on Mr Mirtle, you should be smarter then that

- Marc D


As one of the big proponents of advanced stats and information gathering in the MSM, Mirtle's tweet was simply him being cheeky.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
Sure, we could...but Marc-Andre Bergeron can't play 5v5.

At worst, Mark Streit is still a Top 6 defenseman. The Islanders had to play him more minutes because, to be honest, their options were even less appealing than the Flyers' in the bottom pair.

The Flyers can protect Streit a little better than the Islanders can, because no matter what anyone thinks of Kimmo Timonen, Luke Schenn and Nicklas Grossmann, those guys are more effective in the defensive and neutral zones than Joe Finley, Matt Carkner, and Thomas Hickey.

That's just a straight-up fact. Not ripping the Islanders, but that's a fact -- we can "hide" Streit better, take advantage of what he does well and minimize what he doesn't.

- AllInForFlyers


Well put. Who do you like more from a game stand point? Matt Carle or Mark Streit?
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
Probably leight but Dreger & McKenzie just said Bryz and Danny will be bought out for sure.
This is great news, getting rid of Bryz
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
Mark Streit signs 5.25 Million per. We're in OT of a regular season game. The other team takes a penalty and we have the man advantage, 4 on 3. Does Streit get to see play?
- dingo8urbaby


Of course he does.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
Flyers were terrible last year with the breakout pass 5v5. Streit will help with that a whole lot
- Crimsoninja

it's a shame you guys can't use a 3rd buyout on streit's contract after his miserable upcoming season with you guys
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
look at his team and line partners though...
- hereticpride

I know, it is an awful stat out of context
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
it's a shame you guys can't use a 3rd buyout on streit's contract after his miserable upcoming season with you guys
- rangerdanger94

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:08 PM ET
Ill put it in this context. I think this team was just getting its act together by the time the season ended. Laviolette had finally adjusted the system to reflect the skill set of his players. Had this been a full season, I think they would have had plenty of time to turn it around.

I think the Isles would have still made the playoffs, and I think it would have been the Rangers who faltered.

- MBFlyerfan

FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:09 PM ET
it's a shame you guys can't use a 3rd buyout on streit's contract after his miserable upcoming season with you guys
- rangerdanger94

oh jesus you again
go away troll
hows Wade Redden, Scott Gomez, Marian Gaborik, Chris Drury, Brad Richards working out for ya???
Thats what i thought. Sather worst GM in the league for overpaying
go home troll
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
per Dreger;
Streit's agreement will also include a limited no-trade. He would submit a list of teams he would be willing to move to.

well duh
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
Probably leight but Dreger & McKenzie just said Bryz and Danny will be bought out for sure.
This is great news, getting rid of Bryz

- FLYERSROCK!

his tweet says it "signals" this

also Limited No Trade for Streit
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
it's a shame you guys can't use a 3rd buyout on streit's contract after his miserable upcoming season with you guys
- rangerdanger94


I look at it this way. On the Isles Streit was their #1, #2 guy on the blueline. On the Flyers he is a #4, #5 guy who gets power play minutes.

Different situation will mean different results. (i hope)
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