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NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Because Halak burned his bridges, duh!
- BulliesPhan87


Well played.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
1. Bernier (trade or OS),
2. post-CBO Luongo (on cheap contract),
3. Keep Bryzgalov.

- Tomahawk


Just worry about what acquiring Bernier would cost asset wise. Do you let Read go and sign a winger UFA, and if so, would you get Read's versatility?

I really like the Luongo option, but you have to think Luongo would fetch some return on a trade. Is he a sure CBO? How would he handle the media here?

I don't think option 3 is that bad personally. If Mason takes the reigns, then CBO him next offseason. I personally don't like the idea of spending assets to fix what is not our biggest problem.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Well played.
- NickTheKid87

Welp, it's one thirty and that's the wittiest thing I'm going to say all day. Might as well go back to bed, it's all downhill from here.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 17 @ 1:33 PM ET
Are we really putting that much stock in Mason's last 8 games vs. the rest of his career?

He should be the back-up heading into the season.

- bradleyc4




And if he outplays Halak in camp, or if Halak falters (again) early in the season?

A disgruntled Eastern European goaltender w/ a chip on his shoulder... where have we heard that before?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
Are we really putting that much stock in Mason's last 8 games vs. the rest of his career?

He should be the back-up heading into the season.

- bradleyc4


8 games > 3.5 seasons
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
EJ Hradek tweeted out a few days ago that they would not toll his contract.
- bradleyc4

they'll cross that bridge when they come to it
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jun 17 @ 1:35 PM ET
Because Halak burned his bridges, duh!
- BulliesPhan87




so what you are saying is that the flyers would rather have a head case with a higher price tag out of these two?

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:36 PM ET
And if he outplays Halak in camp, or if Halak falters (again) early in the season?

A disgruntled Eastern European goaltender w/ a chip on his shoulder... where have we heard that before?

- Tomahawk


Well, it's only one-year guaranteed with Halak. And he has a tradeable contract.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
Halak didn't burn bridges in St. Louis. Suggesting so is just over blowing the initial report of an argument while ignorant of all of the information that came out afterwards.


Blues want to:

1)upgrade in net and/or acquire a proven top 6 playmaking center with reasonable cap hit

2)let a team overpay in a trade without the trade opening up holes in our lineup

3)keep the team as is for next season.


No point in talking about trading for Halak or Elliott unless you are willing to meet one of the top two, because Blues can have their third choice without involving other teams at all.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 17 @ 1:37 PM ET


so what you are saying is that the flyers would rather have a head case with a higher price tag out of these two?

- MrBigglesworth


Patrick Sharp had issues with Hitchcock too and all I ever hear is people complaining that they traded him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
What do you guys think of Brent Burns? Ive always been a fan of his, and I wonder what the plan is in San Jose after another disappointing season and what you guys think it would take to get him or if the flyers would even be interested in anyone from the sharks if they plan on tanking that club.
- iroc4me2


If there was any interest, it would be as a Forward not a defenseman. He's pretty horrendous defensively as a defenseman.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jun 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
they'll cross that bridge when they come to it
- isaiah520


So the Isles won't keep Thomas around because Halak set his contract on fire? I'm getting confused.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
Are we really putting that much stock in Mason's last 8 games vs. the rest of his career?

He should be the back-up heading into the season.

- bradleyc4

We are building a Masonic Temple- if you are not on board - LEAVE!














NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Jun 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
Halak didn't burn bridges in St. Louis. Suggesting so is just over blowing the initial report of an argument while ignorant of all of the information that came out afterwards.


Blues want to:

1)upgrade in net and/or acquire a proven top 6 playmaking center with reasonable cap hit

2)let a team overpay in a trade without the trade opening up holes in our lineup

3)keep the team as is for next season.


No point in talking about trading for Halak or Elliott unless you are willing to meet one of the top two, because Blues can have their third choice without involving other teams at all.

- Antilles


Briere for Shattenkirk.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 17 @ 1:39 PM ET


so what you are saying is that the flyers would rather have a head case with a higher price tag out of these two?

- MrBigglesworth

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 17 @ 1:39 PM ET
So the Isles won't keep Thomas around because Halak set his contract on fire? I'm getting confused.
- dilbert719

only if they pay the toll
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:40 PM ET


so what you are saying is that the flyers would rather have a head case with a higher price tag out of these two?

- MrBigglesworth


I say trade Mason, keep Bryz and sign Thomas... Hire Robert Esche as goalie coach. LOL Drama! At least we'd get another Winter Classic game because HBO 24/7 would have to do another series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
Are we really putting that much stock in Mason's last 8 games vs. the rest of his career?

He should be the back-up heading into the season.

- bradleyc4



Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wanted the Flyers to go with Bobrovsky, versus signing a Free Agent Goalie in the past. Is going with Mason any different from that?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wanted the Flyers to go with Bobrovsky, versus signing a Free Agent Goalie in the past. Is going with Mason any different from that?
- MJL


Yes.

Mason has years of NHL mediocrity under his belt already.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
Briere for Shattenkirk.
- NickTheKid87


Couturier for Russell
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 1:44 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87

Your dinosaur is getting wet.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wanted the Flyers to go with Bobrovsky, versus signing a Free Agent Goalie in the past. Is going with Mason any different from that?
- MJL

In no exact terms, it's a little bit different. It's a gamble on a young goalie that could go either way, but there was positive talk about Bobrovsky's play prior to joining the Flyers. For Mason, he's reportedly struggled since his rookie season.

This is really based on vague understanding of each prior to joining the Flyers, of course.

EDIT: Leight
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
I say trade Mason, keep Bryz and sign Thomas... Hire Robert Esche as goalie coach. LOL Drama! At least we'd get another Winter Classic game because HBO 24/7 would have to do another series.
- Hextall271


Esche's 2004 performance was the best playoffs a Flyers goalie has had since I became a fan 20 years ago.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
Yes.

Mason has years of NHL mediocrity under his belt already.

- bradleyc4



That is a factor, but what Mason has had that Bobrovsky didn't have at the time, was a full Season playing at a high level in the NHL. Mason is still only 25. I'd prefer if Bryzalov is gone, that they give Mason a shot, instead of trading valuable assets to acquire another Goalie. It's clear that Mason has talent and athletic ability.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 1:46 PM ET
Your dinosaur is getting wet.
- mayorofangrytown

So I have a late lunch and walk into a discussion about wet lizards... K ill catch ya's after work...
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