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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 7:56 AM ET
Edler is a #1 dman. Cobrun is a #3 dman, Vancouver gets a future 1st or 2nd line player also.
i think an offer that would be more tempting for them would be Coburn+11th+Gus/Cousins/Akeson/McGinn/Ghost for Edler+24th

- FLYERSROCK!


That's really awful asset management.

Edler isn't a number one defenseman. He's a good solid defenseman, but he's not a bona fide number one. Trading Coburn and the 11th pick for him is not a smart plan.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 8:10 AM ET
Nature of the business. When the Flyers were trying to sneak Randy Freakin' Jones through recall waivers a few years because they were racked with injuries on the blueline, did ol' pal Lombardi do Homer a favor or did he claim Jones for LA, leaving the Flyers with half of Jones' cap hit?
- bmeltzer

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 8:25 AM ET

- Flyskippy


Don't you have anything better to do today?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 8:31 AM ET
That's really awful asset management.

Edler isn't a number one defenseman. He's a good solid defenseman, but he's not a bona fide number one. Trading Coburn and the 11th pick for him is not a smart plan.

- Jsaquella



Not to mention, you just know you're going to end up watching Gus go on to win a Norris Trophy and/or Stanley Cup playing w/ the Sedins while some grave misfortune befalls Monsieur Edler, right?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
Edler is a #1 dman. Cobrun is a #3 dman, Vancouver gets a future 1st or 2nd line player also.
i think an offer that would be more tempting for them would be Coburn+11th+Gus/Cousins/Akeson/McGinn/Ghost for Edler+24th

- FLYERSROCK!


Wow. A defenseman coming off his worst year, a 1st round pick, a possible future top-3 puck-moving defenseman (who actually outplayed Edler for the time they were together on Sweden), a guy who was one of the leading scorers in juniors, a good young 3rd liner, another possible top-3 puck-moving defenseman (and our best hope at a home-grown defenseman in years) for a guy who is not a true #1 defenseman (top-pair, but not elite) and a late first-rounder?

Yes, that's a fantastic offer.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 8:58 AM ET
so....what did i miss?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:02 AM ET
so....what did i miss?
- PhillaBully


- Streit is useless
- Boston is awesome
- Crosby sucks (probably in there somewhere)
- The Flyers still suck
- Trade roster and future for Edler
- Streit is old and useless
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:08 AM ET
- Streit is useless
- Boston is awesome
- Crosby sucks (probably in there somewhere)
- The Flyers still suck
- Trade roster and future for Edler
- Streit is old and useless

- jmatchett383



No
"Bryzgalov buyout"
"Dont let the door hit you on your way out briere"
"Fire Lavy"
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:14 AM ET
Mark Streit buyout from CapGeek.com

2015-16: $1,750,000
2016-17: $1,750,000
2017-18: $1,750,000
2018-19: $1,750,000


(if bought out in June of 2015)
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:15 AM ET
Mark Streit buyout from CapGeek.com

2015-16: $1,750,000
2016-17: $1,750,000
2017-18: $1,750,000
2018-19: $1,750,000


(if bought out in June of 2015)

- bradleyc4

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:22 AM ET
Also I hate what Dreger says Streit's New Contract is .... He's playing till 40 at 5.25 A Year...with Homer's classic NTC

- FrmRusiaWifGlov


He won't turn 40 till six months after the contract ends.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:23 AM ET
Mark Streit cap hit to Florida from CapGeek.com

2015-16: $5,250,000
2016-17: $5,250,000


(when acquired by Florida to reach cap floor in June of 2015)

- bradleyc4


FTFY
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:25 AM ET
I dont mind Striet, but I certainly do mind his contract...
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
Don't you have anything better to do today?
- Jsaquella

Me? No. My wife & child-to-be do!

3 hours of waiting at home still before heading out. Then 3 hours until the procedure. I'm more antsy now than on my 10th Christmas Eve when I asked for a bike and 'The Empire Strikes Back' Atari game.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 9:27 AM ET
Not to mention, you just know you're going to end up watching Gus go on to win a Norris Trophy and/or Stanley Cup playing w/ the Sedins while some grave misfortune befalls Monsieur Edler, right?
- Tomahawk

The Debbie Downer is strong with this one.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:28 AM ET
Highly doubtful.
- FLYERSROCK!


It just can't really be predicted. Edler himself was a 3rd round pick.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
Me? No. My wife & child-to-be do!

3 hours of waiting at home still before heading out. Then 3 hours until the procedure. I'm more antsy now than on my 10th Christmas Eve when I asked for a bike and 'The Empire Strikes Back' Atari game.

- Flyskippy


Finally getting those implants you've been dreaming about?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
Me? No. My wife & child-to-be do!

3 hours of waiting at home still before heading out. Then 3 hours until the procedure. I'm more antsy now than on my 10th Christmas Eve when I asked for a bike and 'The Empire Strikes Back' Atari game.

- Flyskippy


Best of luck to you and your soon to be baby....
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
Me? No. My wife & child-to-be do!

3 hours of waiting at home still before heading out. Then 3 hours until the procedure. I'm more antsy now than on my 10th Christmas Eve when I asked for a bike and 'The Empire Strikes Back' Atari game.

- Flyskippy


Congrats!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:34 AM ET
I dont mind Striet, but I certainly do mind his contract...
- jak521


Yup. Wife asked if I thought it was a good contract, I said ask me in December this year, and next year, and the year after that...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 18 @ 9:35 AM ET
It just can't really be predicted. Edler himself was a 3rd round pick.
- wolfhounds


Knowing the Flyers luck, the 4th rounder they traded will be the new Chris Pronger in 2 years time.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:38 AM ET
I dont mind Striet, but I certainly do mind his contract...
- jak521


At least they traded a 4th round pick to get these exclusive negotiating rights!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:43 AM ET
Me? No. My wife & child-to-be do!

3 hours of waiting at home still before heading out. Then 3 hours until the procedure. I'm more antsy now than on my 10th Christmas Eve when I asked for a bike and 'The Empire Strikes Back' Atari game.

- Flyskippy


Congrats indeed!


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:00 AM ET
At least they traded a 4th round pick to get these exclusive negotiating rights!
- bradleyc4

Psssshhh.. No fourth round pick has ever gone on to be an impact player in the NHL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:01 AM ET
Edler is a #1 dman. Cobrun is a #3 dman, Vancouver gets a future 1st or 2nd line player also.
i think an offer that would be more tempting for them would be Coburn+11th+Gus/Cousins/Akeson/McGinn/Ghost for Edler+24th

- FLYERSROCK!



I agree that Edler is a #1 D man. But he is not on the level of Timonen in his prime. So that's a pretty drastic overpayment. I like Edler a lot. But I wouldn't make that deal.
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