Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 1m

Rich Winter, Ilya Bryzgalov's agent has been informed by Paul Holmgren that Bryzgalov will NOT be bought out after Cup Final! #flyers
- Jsaquella

Right on, lets continue the circus!

If it IS true, there's a couple other trades a-coming.
- Jsaquella

I never doubted that there was a couple other somethings a-coming! This is the Flyers were talking about!

Maybe if the Cap was 80M!
- MJL

You're telling me it isn't!?
Fine then ship Mezzy's ass out. Ill do a cap geek calc when I get home

If they could get Read or Simmonds and the #11. Which I wouldn't do. I could see why they would.
- MJL

hmmm the ducks main issue is depth so that could help but i think you might have to add a 2nd to the deal at least.

elite wingers are usually traded for a top-6 player, a good to great prospect, and a 1st rounder. you have 2 of the 3 and i'm not sure the prospects you have are prospects that ducks would need besides laughton (assuming the ducks need defense and center prospects).

i could maybe see simmonds + laughton + 1st + 3th for ryan +5th. but anaheim was being really stern with their asking price before the deadline which was crazy high.

you've gotta remember this kid is a 26 year old elite power forward who's scored over 30 goals every season besides this one and his rookie year signed to a very cap-friendly deal.

@JoshRimerHockey: Was also told that Holmgren told the Bryzgalov camp that they felt they overplayed him this yr. That he shouldn't have started so many games
- FLYERSROCK!

Haha yeah because no other goaltender has played so many, especially not the guys who played in the playoffs.

Frankly to me its an insult for that guy to put the jersey on again. I used to be kind of neutral, but its just rediculous. I'd laugh if they kept him for his whole contract.

hmmm the ducks main issue is depth so that could help but i think you might have to add a 2nd to the deal at least.

elite wingers are usually traded for a top-6 player, a good to great prospect, and a 1st rounder. you have 2 of the 3 and i'm not sure the prospects you have are prospects that ducks would need besides laughton (assuming the ducks need defense and center prospects).

i could maybe see simmonds + laughton + 1st + 3th for ryan +5th. but anaheim was being really stern with their asking price before the deadline which was crazy high.

you've gotta remember this kid is a 26 year old elite power forward who's scored over 30 goals every season besides this one and his rookie year signed to a very cap-friendly deal.
- rangerdanger94

Well I personally wouldn't call Bobby Ryan elite. He's a very good player. But he is not elite in my opinion.

If they could get Read or Simmonds and the #11. Which I wouldn't do. I could see why they would.
- MJL

Would you do Read and 11 for Ryan and 26?

Well I personally wouldn't call Bobby Ryan elite. He's a very good player. But he is not elite in my opinion.
- MJL

i think he's the equivalent of a james neal, logan couture, evander kane, or loui eriksson.

they might not be elite, but they are as close as you can be without being elite. they're sure-fire 1st line players that will consistently score over 30 goals a season.

Would you do Read and 11 for Ryan and 26?
- jstross

Yea, I think I would. Although if not buying out Bryzgalov. The Flyers would have to make some other moves.

Here's what I make of this. If Anaheim is making Ryan available, and putting out feelers to see what they can get. I'd fully expect the Flyers to get a phone call, or make a call. And kick the tires. I have no doubt that with the noise, that's what's happening. We'll see if anything comes of it.

Would you do Read and 11 for Ryan and 26?
- jstross

you guys do realize that the ducks were asking for 1 top-6 player, 1-2 elite prospects, and 2 first round picks for him, right?

i think he's the equivalent of a james neal, logan couture, evander kane, or loui eriksson.

they might not be elite, but they are as close as you can be without being elite. they're sure-fire 1st line players that will consistently score over 30 goals a season.
- rangerdanger94

I'd agree that he's a first line Winger and 30 goal scorer. But you have to better then 86th and 64th in the League in scoring the last two Seasons to be elite.

Haha yeah because no other goaltender has played so many, especially not the guys who played in the playoffs.

Frankly to me its an insult for that guy to put the jersey on again. I used to be kind of neutral, but its just rediculous. I'd laugh if they kept him for his whole contract.
- flyer_nutter

I'm kind of happy for him. Glad that he's going to go out and earn his money if it's true

you guys do realize that the ducks were asking for 1 top-6 player, 1-2 elite prospects, and 2 first round picks for him, right?
- rangerdanger94

What they're asking, and what some of us would give up for Ryan. Is obviously two different things.
And if the Ducks are or were asking for that, then they're delusional. And really have no interest in trading him.

I'd agree that he's a first line Winger and 30 goal scorer. But you have to better then 86th and 64th in the League in scoring the last two Seasons to be elite.
- MJL

for the rangers to get ryan, it would cost stepan, kreider, and a first. for the flyers, it will cost schenn, voracek/simmonds, and a first.

I do think that the Bryzgalov leak is designed to let other teams feel the Flyers won't be painted into a corner in trading for a goalie, but it's an easy ruse to see through.
- Jsaquella

that would be a good strategy for homer. then he can pounce at a time of his choosing. the element of desperation has to be removed.

for the rangers to get ryan, it would cost stepan, kreider, and a first. for the flyers, it will cost schenn, voracek/simmonds, and a first.
- rangerdanger94

Not sure where you're getting this from. But either you or the Ducks are dreaming.

What they're asking, and what some of us would give up for Ryan. Is obviously two different things.
And if the Ducks are or were asking for that, then they're delusional. And really have no interest in trading him.
- MJL

i think that asking price shows that they don't want or need to trade him, but that they are willing to listen to offers because....why not?

but whoever does make an offer that is accepted will have to overpay A LOT because the ducks have no desire to really move him at all. you have to make them an offer they can't refuse.

Not sure where you're getting this from. But either you or the Ducks are dreaming.
- MJL

it's just what i assume the ducks asking price would be.

that would be a good strategy for homer. then he can pounce at a time of his choosing. the element of desperation has to be removed.
- isaiah520

I pray to god.

It just doesnt sound too great because Snider already came out in full defense. We will see.

that would be a good strategy for homer. then he can pounce at a time of his choosing. the element of desperation has to be removed.
- isaiah520

As Jasq said, it's an easy ruse to see through. Don't see it fooling anyone. If we can see that as a bunch of fans on the internet. I'm quite sure that NHL execs can figure it out also. They know the landscape.

Frank Seravalli ‏@DNFlyers 31m
Have not yet spoken to Winter. Not calling Holmgren a liar, but he also told Jeff Carter's agent a week ahead of time he wouldn't be dealt.

for the rangers to get ryan, it would cost stepan, kreider, and a first. for the flyers, it will cost schenn, voracek/simmonds, and a first.
- rangerdanger94

nonsense. voracek could be traded straight up for him.

for the rangers to get ryan, it would cost stepan, kreider, and a first. for the flyers, it will cost schenn, voracek/simmonds, and a first.
- rangerdanger94

and both teams would be idiotic to make such a deal. ryan's not nearly worth that much

it's just what i assume the ducks asking price would be.
- rangerdanger94

I think your aim is extremely high.

you guys do realize that the ducks were asking for 1 top-6 player, 1-2 elite prospects, and 2 first round picks for him, right?
- rangerdanger94

Then you walk away. No way would I trade #11 and Coburn for him. They won't get close to a top 6 player and 2 1st rd picks let alone any prospects added.