it was just a conservative estimate. i'm well aware that 1.5 is high. i'd rather lean to the high side than low side when guessing a salary in this situation
- FlyerMike18

ok gotcha

RIGHT NOW our top 6 are:
Kimmo-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Mezzy
I doubt it stays that way, but i wouldnt be surprised at all to see Gus at #7. KIM Flyers might only have space for 2 extra players. Gervais cant be sent down b/c of one way contract and other things. Gus could still be sent down.
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gervais can be sent down. both gervais and gus would be subject to waivers if sent down i'm fairly certain. gus would actually get claimed (and will likely be making enough that part of his cap hit would stay with the flyers if he made it)

This is going to get ugly.

Cup Finals can't end soon enough.
- hereticpride

idk who to believe

this is a cluster(frank). If Homer did truly tell Winter what he just said right now, thats a HUGE, HUGE mistake on Winter's part, and that would be a big no no.

RIGHT NOW our top 6 are:
Kimmo-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Mezzy
I doubt it stays that way, but i wouldnt be surprised at all to see Gus at #7. KIM Flyers might only have space for 2 extra players. Gervais cant be sent down b/c of one way contract and other things. Gus could still be sent down.
- FLYERSROCK!

It would be ideal to have Meszaros but he's been broken a while now.

I agree with you. But as I've said repeatedly. Nothing the Flyers did this off season would shock me.
- MJL

I said maybe a week or so ago that at some point, Paul Holmgren's temper was going to catch up to him and he was going to be straight po'd that they missed the playoffs.

Rumors are rumors; I don't know who to believe.

But one thing I know is this: The last time Paul Holmgren was REALLY MAD was when the Flyers got embarrassed by the Bruins in the playoffs. Result: Mike Richards and Jeff Carter got moved within 30 minutes of each other.

Think about this year. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs. And Holmgren went off on the players about their effort and willingness to compete.

And, most tellingly, he didn't fire the coach.

That kinda tells me, just me, that if Homer's still seething about missing the playoffs, or if he's gotten more sour as time passed...well, guess what?

It'll be players that will get moved. The only three people who would be safe are Claude Giroux, Mark Streit and Kimmo Timonen, because Holmgren's working on Giroux's extension, Streit just got one and Holmgren thinks Timonen's the toughest SOB the Flyers have.

Everybody else...man, I don't know. This many rumors out there...it might get kinda hot next week, because with that much smoke, somebody's dreams might get set on fire.

RIGHT NOW our top 6 are:
Kimmo-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossmann-Mezzy
I doubt it stays that way, but i wouldnt be surprised at all to see Gus at #7. KIM Flyers might only have space for 2 extra players. Gervais cant be sent down b/c of one way contract and other things. Gus could still be sent down.
- FLYERSROCK!

Gustafsson is a lock for the top 6. Unless he plays his way out of it in camp.

Gervais can be sent down if he clears waivers. One way contract has nothing to do with it. Gustafsson would also have to clear waivers to be sent down

gervais can be sent down. both gervais and gus would be subject to waivers if sent down i'm fairly certain. gus would actuually get claimed (and will likely be making enough that part of his cap hit would stay with the flyers)
- FlyerMike18

Gervais can be sent down without going through waivers?? No way lol...
idk how that system fully works, im sure we'll find out once Gus resigns. Gus is way better than Gervais but Flyers idt would want Gervais to be claimed.
I know you have to have atleast 20 skaters. if flyers go with 12/8 or 13/7, because idk if they'll have room for 21 skaters+ 2 goalies
also Pronger cant be LTIR'ed till day 2 of the RS, so the Flyers have to have atleast 4,941,429 of cap space opening day, or they'll be penalized i believe (not 100% on this)

Gustafsson is a lock for the top 6. Unless he plays his way out of it in camp.

Gervais can be sent down if he clears waivers. One way contract has nothing to do with it. Gustafsson would also have to clear waivers to be sent down
- MJL

sigh...
i just posted 6 dmen that are ahead of gus on the depth charts... if Grossmann and Mezzy are healthy and ready to go they'd healthy scratch one of those 2??? absolutely NOT!

Gervais can be sent down without going through waivers?? No way lol...
idk how that system fully works, im sure we'll find out once Gus resigns. Gus is way better than Gervais but Flyers idt would want Gervais to be claimed.
I know you have to have atleast 20 skaters. if flyers go with 12/8 or 13/7, because idk if they'll have room for 21 skaters+ 2 goalies
also Pronger cant be LTIR'ed till day 2 of the RS, so the Flyers have to have atleast 4,941,429 of cap space opening day, or they'll be penalized i believe (not 100% on this)
- FLYERSROCK!

both gus and gervais would have to clear waivers to get sent down

I said maybe a week or so ago that at some point, Paul Holmgren's temper was going to catch up to him and he was going to be straight po'd that they missed the playoffs.

Rumors are rumors; I don't know who to believe.

But one thing I know is this: The last time Paul Holmgren was REALLY MAD was when the Flyers got embarrassed by the Bruins in the playoffs. Result: Mike Richards and Jeff Carter got moved within 30 minutes of each other.

Think about this year. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs. And Holmgren went off on the players about their effort and willingness to compete.

And, most tellingly, he didn't fire the coach.

That kinda tells me, just me, that if Homer's still seething about missing the playoffs, or if he's gotten more sour as time passed...well, guess what?

It'll be players that will get moved. The only three people who would be safe are Claude Giroux, Mark Streit and Kimmo Timonen, because Holmgren's working on Giroux's extension, Streit just got one and Holmgren thinks Timonen's the toughest SOB the Flyers have.

Everybody else...man, I don't know. This many rumors out there...it might get kinda hot next week, because with that much smoke, somebody's dreams might get set on fire.
- AllInForFlyers

I have to agree with you how long was Carter rumored to be traded? How bout the Luke Schenn for JVR? A lot of smoke on a few guys likely hood of ones in question Read, Bryz, Coby and others not being here is realistic.

both gus and gervais would have to clear waivers to get sent down
- FlyerMike18

ok. then it's be Gervais going down if anyone
(frank) who knows Gus might not evn be on our team

Gervais can be sent down without going through waivers?? No way lol...
idk how that system fully works, im sure we'll find out once Gus resigns. Gus is way better than Gervais but Flyers idt would want Gervais to be claimed.
I know you have to have atleast 20 skaters. if flyers go with 12/8 or 13/7, because idk if they'll have room for 21 skaters+ 2 goalies
also Pronger cant be LTIR'ed till day 2 of the RS, so the Flyers have to have atleast 4,941,429 of cap space opening day, or they'll be penalized i believe (not 100% on this)
- FLYERSROCK!

Not true that they have to wait until Day 2 of the regular Season to place a player on LTIR.

Not true that they have to wait until Day 2 of the regular Season to place a player on LTIR.
- MJL

heard it from a good insider a month back or so

@tpanotchCSN: Paul Holmgren: I didn't assure Ritch Winter of anything. We will do whatever is best for our team.

I just took the biggest sigh of relief in my entire life
(frank)ing Winter. Jackass.
- FLYERSROCK!

me too. Rimer just passed along the agent's bs with no confirmation attempt.

Gustafsson is a lock for the top 6. Unless he plays his way out of it in camp.

Gervais can be sent down if he clears waivers. One way contract has nothing to do with it. Gustafsson would also have to clear waivers to be sent down
- MJL

That's good to know. so if they put Gervais on waivers, he clears and gets sent down none of that counts against the cap?

sigh...
i just posted 6 dmen that are ahead of gus on the depth charts... if Grossmann and Mezzy are healthy and ready to go they'd healthy scratch one of those 2??? absolutely NOT!
- FLYERSROCK!

You posted who you think is ahead of him on the depth chart. I'm telling you that unless Gustafsson is traded, or is so horrible that he plays his way out of it. Gustafsson is in the lineup on opening night if he's not hurt.

Lots of rumors floating around about the Flyers.

That's good to know. so if the put Gervais on waivers, he clears and gets sent down none of that counts against the cap?
- jstross

Cap free!

You posted who you think is ahead of him on the depth chart. I'm telling you that unless Gustafsson is traded, or is so horrible that he plays his way out of it. Gustafsson is in the lineup on opening night if he's not hurt.
- MJL

im telling you you're wrong.
all 6 of those dmen are better than Gus is

Cap free!
- MJL

Sure helps to have Comcast paying the bills.

im telling you you're wrong.
all 6 of those dmen are better than Gus is
- FLYERSROCK!

Talk to you on opening night!

Talk to you on opening night!
- MJL

when gus isnt even on the roster on another team? k

when gus isnt even on the roster on another team? k
- FLYERSROCK!

In my reply, I said if he's not hurt, or hasn't been traded. He will be in the lineup. I suspect it will be one of the other defenseman, who is on another team.

When are you getting around to signing your rfa's?
- Just5

sather is notorious for waiting to sign them late in july after all the UFA madness so he knows how much he has to work with.

im telling you you're wrong.
all 6 of those dmen are better than Gus is
- FLYERSROCK!

Gus is excellent. No idea why you're down on him. Look at his +/- going back. He gets it done. He was slowed early last year by injuries, but he is a key piece moving forward.