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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 10:53 PM ET
If something's changed, maybe its a sense of urgency coming off of a non playoff season. That's a different element here. Re your earlier comments, the spirit of them would make bryz a goner for sure. It wouldn't surprise me if today's revelations from winter were yet another nudge maybe based on homer indicating to him that his current plan was to bring ilya back. Pure speculation on my part of course.

Another question that comes to mind. Would you be bracing yourself if the GM was a guy like Holland or sciarelli?

- isaiah520


No -- don't misinterpret that. I think Paul Holmgren makes, on the whole, very good trades, and the Flyers draft well, to boot.

I'm bracing myself because I think Sean Couturier and Brayden Schenn...I wouldn't move them. I've said that.

But if Holmgren does...man. The dude's been to two ECF's, one Stanley Cup final, had three 100-point seasons since 2007-2008.

I'm just some guy with a laptop, you know? Who am I to judge that guy, really?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:54 PM ET
He'd forfit a poop ton of money, that's what.
- hereticpride


He'd probably make $10M a season in the KHL. Well maybe $8M... Bobrovsky will be the one making $10M
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 10:56 PM ET
He'd probably make $10M a season in the KHL. Well maybe $8M... Bobrovsky will be the one making $10M
- eayost

Woe is you.

We have Mason. We have options.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 11:05 PM ET
Lots of rumors floating around about the Flyers.
- stveshdy

Because it creates a Hockeybuzz. More clicks, more revenue, more bosses telling their underlings like Tim Pinocchio, "Keep it up with the BS, the fans are buying it like farmers in need of fertilizer."
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 11:07 PM ET
Loving the self-fulfilling deluded prophecies today: "Paul Holmgren, a GM I don't like, is probably going to _____ (insert a move I would not like) and that will make me like less, because I don't like him."
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:07 PM ET
No -- don't misinterpret that. I think Paul Holmgren makes, on the whole, very good trades, and the Flyers draft well, to boot.

I'm bracing myself because I think Sean Couturier and Brayden Schenn...I wouldn't move them. I've said that.

But if Holmgren does...man. The dude's been to two ECF's, one Stanley Cup final, had three 100-point seasons since 2007-2008.

I'm just some guy with a laptop, you know? Who am I to judge that guy, really?

- AllInForFlyers

Well that's why you're here, right?

But seriously, when you've been watching any team for 40+ yrs like i have, there's a certain "I've seen this movie before" quality to them...esp the flyers. Homer started out extremely well, but his methods are now at a point where he's spinning his wheels. He can't bury his mistakes in the minors and there are no more CBOs after these two. They need a more patient approach, but I don't get the sense we'll see that any time soon.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:10 PM ET
Loving the self-fulfilling deluded prophecies today: "Paul Holmgren, a GM I don't like, is probably going to _____ (insert a move I would not like) and that will make me like less, because I don't like him."
- Flyskippy

Or you can have a beautiful new son and not worry about such nonsense
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 11:11 PM ET
Finally, off-topic, I want to thank everyone for the congrats, prayers, thoughts, and well wishes regarding my 2nd born today (especially the ones from Bo [which cracked my wife & I up], MOAT, ob18, & hammarby [in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier]).
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 18 @ 11:12 PM ET
Or you can have a beautiful new son and not worry about such nonsense
- isaiah520

No, no. I really did get a kick out of it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
Finally, off-topic, I want to thank everyone for the congrats, prayers, thoughts, and well wishes regarding my 2nd born today (especially the ones from Bo
- Flyskippy[which cracked my wife & I up], MOAT, ob18, & hammarby [in addition to the ones I mentioned earlier]).


Holmgren's just going to trade him for a big, slow defenseman
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:13 PM ET
Loving the self-fulfilling deluded prophecies today: "Paul Holmgren, a GM I don't like, is probably going to _____ (insert a move I would not like) and that will make me like less, because I don't like him."
- Flyskippy


The Flyers Off-Season, the new film by David Lynch
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:16 PM ET
Holmgren's just going to trade him for a big, slow defenseman
- Jsaquella


HA! (And congratulations, FlySkippy!)
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
Doing great! It's a boy, Joseph William. 9 lbs 6 oz. 21.25" long. Born at 4:08.
- Flyskippy


A big congrats to you skippy.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:25 PM ET
Because it creates a Hockeybuzz. More clicks, more revenue, more bosses telling their underlings like Tim Pinocchio, "Keep it up with the BS, the fans are buying it like farmers in need of fertilizer."
- Flyskippy

Lots of monetization today
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:26 PM ET
Thats a big F in baby.
- youarewrong


Ah he is a pipsqueak.

My oldest son (now 4) was 10lbs 15oz. at birth and my youngest now (now 8 mos. ) was 10lbs 9oz. Couple of friggin' hosses. My wife is also a damn trooper. Between the 2 boys she labored 38 hours (30 on #1, 8 on number two). All but 5 of those hours was all natural labor (after 25 hours with #1 she got some pitocin and a minimum dose epidural to help the process). I'd have been crying for the strongest thing they had and a shot of bourbon after a minute, I'm sure

Anyway Congrats again 'Skip!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:31 PM ET
Go B's! I can't wait till this off season begins already. Besides, we need the flyers to get better defensively, so if the B's win, then that's the new template for the flyers and...







good nite
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:42 PM ET
The Flyers Off-Season, the new film by David Lynch
- Jsaquella

Our D is worse than Dune.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 18 @ 11:52 PM ET
Adrian Dater tweets that Seth Jones won;t be the top pick. Sakic says Avs taking MacKinnon, Drouin or Barkov
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:56 PM ET
Holy poop HUGE Draft news!!!
Sakic says HIMSELF AVS WILL NOT CHOOSE SETH JONES FIRST!!!

Edit: screw u Jsaq
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:04 AM ET
Adrian Dater tweets that Seth Jones won;t be the top pick. Sakic says Avs taking MacKinnon, Drouin or Barkov
- Jsaquella

Sounds like they're still tying to sell the pick. No other reason to show your hand like that.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:06 AM ET
Adrian Dater tweets that Seth Jones won;t be the top pick. Sakic says Avs taking MacKinnon, Drouin or Barkov
- Jsaquella


Big mistake. Panthers hit the jackpot
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 12:15 AM ET
Big mistake. Panthers hit the jackpot
- Just5


They hit the jackpot awhile ago. Getting Any of the top 3 or 4 is getting a potential franchise guy.

I'd take MacKinnon first, too
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 12:16 AM ET
Adrian Dater tweets that Seth Jones won;t be the top pick. Sakic says Avs taking MacKinnon, Drouin or Barkov
- Jsaquella

that opens up the trade scenarios. I think it's a brilliant move by Sakic.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 19 @ 12:20 AM ET
that opens up the trade scenarios. I think it's a brilliant move by Sakic.
- mayorofangrytown


He's basically saying, "I'm taking the guy you want Florida, make an offer"
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:24 AM ET
He's basically saying, "I'm taking the guy you want Florida, make an offer"
- Jsaquella

(frank)ing love Sakic... BRILLIANT move.
If everything stays the same i truthgfully feel Jones slips to #4 OR maybe even #5... no im not kidding
Florida takes Drouin
Tampa takes Nichushkin
Nashville takes Barkov or Jones
Carolina gets Jones or Barkov

WOW!
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