vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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Yup! All are doing well. M4 was here Tuesday night and joined in the revelry with the grandparents. Mom & baby (J1, per ob18) are doing great. Hopefully we go home tomorrow. - Flyskippy
get him started in hockey early so when he becomes a star goalie he will get the big bucks |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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Yup! All are doing well. M4 was here Tuesday night and joined in the revelry with the grandparents. Mom & baby (J1, per ob18) are doing great. Hopefully we go home tomorrow. - Flyskippy
Thats great to hear buddy... I can only imagine the excitement for M4 |
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vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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What problem? Sounds like you just suggested that bernier is similar to bryz. I don't see the comparison. What specifically about bernier would make him a backup goalie in your opinion. - moylander
they had Bob, they are always searching for something? |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Schenns hit is already 3 mm. Coots had an off year, but if he can duplicate his rookie year he will get paid. - section32
Schenn's cap hit is all bonus based, and I don't think he's ever seen that money (i.e.playing 25+ minutes in every game). |
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vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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What problem? Sounds like you just suggested that bernier is similar to bryz. I don't see the comparison. What specifically about bernier would make him a backup goalie in your opinion. - moylander
I like Bernier |
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mydoglicks
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Location: downingtown, PA Joined: 06.25.2009
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the longer this bernier thing goes on the more it costs whichever team pulls the trigger, I want out of the bidding...I thought read was an overpayment |
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moylander
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.14.2011
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they had Bob, they are always searching for something? - vejim
I think bernier has the athleticism and skill set to be better than Bob. I think mason and bernier would make a great tandem to challenge each other for the permanent starting job moving forward. Neither demands lots of starts like bryz did. Both are 24 years old. Both have potential.
Quite frankly if they both play well and we have to trade one they'd probably fetch a similar return as read if not more down the road. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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my opinion, backup goalie - vejim
So you don't think that Bernier can be a starter in this League? How do you know that? |
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youarewrong
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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Cap space wont be an issue with resigning players. I fully expect the cap to be near what it is this past season. Remember it's based on hockey revenue. Revenue has been increasing, and did under the lockout as well, it will continue next year also. So not only will we get an increase of 6-8 million in the cap, we will get 6 million from Timonen's contract.
And I have to disagree with bill. I think Schenn's and Couturier's contacts aren't going to be in the 3 million range unless they sign long term. I think you will see similiar contracts that Simmonds and Voracek got when they came here. Short 1 or 2 year deals for 2-2.5 million. |
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vejim
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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I think bernier has the athleticism and skill set to be better than Bob. I think mason and bernier would make a great tandem to challenge each other for the permanent starting job moving forward. Neither demands lots of starts like bryz did. Both are 24 years old. Both have potential.
Quite frankly if they both play well and we have to trade one they'd probably fetch a similar return as read if not more down the road. - moylander
they just need to find a goalie and stick with him, maybe a french goalie is a good thing? |
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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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So you don't think that Bernier can be a starter in this League? How do you know that? - MJL
I dont...do you? |
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funmaster18
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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Thank you, kind sir. - Flyskippy
Nice touch, it's been a while! |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I dont...do you? - vejim
Exactly! No I don't know. But I'm not saying it's overpaying. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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We don't know, but it's more than I want to pay for him. Read should be enough on his own, and if another team is offering LA more than Read then let them get Bernier. - Feanor
Right, we don't know. But if Berneir was to come in here, and solidify the Goaltender position for the next decade, would it be too much to pay? |
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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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So you don't think that Bernier can be a starter in this League? How do you know that? - MJL
I still think the flyers problems are on the D |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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If he performs this year as he should then I would expect his next deal to be in the same range given his projected ability. Look at G's current deal. I get its a big "if". But Schenn was projected higher than G. - section32
PK Subban's bridge deal was 2 years at 2.875M. Who was projected higher in the draft is irrelevant at this point. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I still think the flyers problems are on the D - vejim
They have some future needs there for sure. |
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PhillaBully
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.20.2010
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Crazy day at the hospital yesterday with tests, feeding, diaper changing, and all the accoutrements that accompany having a newborn. So...
Recap of yesterday's blog thread, please. - Flyskippy
Buyot bryz?
To bernier or not to bernier?
OMG BOB RYAB... |
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youarewrong
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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I just had this premonition from out of no-where that the Flyers are going to go for Buff. Don't know why. I'm not saying I want it to happen. I just have this feeling. And they use Coburn and Meszaros to move up in the draft, and Read and Mason and a 2nd for Bernier... This is so wierd.
Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Nichsuhkin/Barkov-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Talbot
Raffl/Rosehill-Cousins/Holmstrom-Rinaldo
Timonen-Byfuglien
Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Gustefsson
Bernier
Thomas |
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phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 08.06.2007
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never ceases to amaze me...
it's hockey law and order buzz |
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moylander
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 06.14.2011
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I still think the flyers problems are on the D - vejim
I agree. I think they have a young core of solid forwards (with more in the minors)... Wrap up bernier and mason in net, both young, then start revamping the defense. I do think it will require one of coots or schenn to do so but not yet, not right after a down season. |
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youarewrong
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 07.07.2010
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Does LA have a back-up goalie ready to fill in for Bernier? If not then I think a deal of Read & Mason might get the job done. Mason is cheaper then a good back-up would be to sign and might be what LA would want.
Personally, I'm not sure I would do this, but it makes me think.... |
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phi1671
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Location: PA Joined: 08.06.2007
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I dont...do you? - vejim
I think Bernier has yet to 100% proven himself to be a starter. I really don't know the type of cap hit he deserves. Whoever gets him will overpay for his services. Hopefully he will pan out for whatever team.
Oops sorry I meant to add a question to my post.
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Right, we don't know. But if Berneir was to come in here, and solidify the Goaltender position for the next decade, would it be too much to pay? - MJL
You can argue "if" values all day.
If Seth Jones is really the next Pronger/Weber, is it too much to offer your next 3 1st round picks, Matt Read, and Coburn so that your blueline has an anchor for the next 13 years? If so, we should do whatever is necessary to get him.
So yes, IF Bernier turns out to be the next Lundqvist, no Read and+ is not an overpayment. But Read is at least a somewhat known good whereas Bernier has never had to carry a full NHL workload. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I just had this premonition from out of no-where that the Flyers are going to go for Buff. Don't know why. I'm not saying I want it to happen. I just have this feeling. And they use Coburn and Meszaros to move up in the draft, and Read and Mason and a 2nd for Bernier... This is so wierd.
Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Nichsuhkin/Barkov-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Talbot
Raffl/Rosehill-Cousins/Holmstrom-Rinaldo
Timonen-Byfuglien
Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Gustefsson
Bernier
Thomas - youarewrong
Two issues. What are they trading for Byfuglien? And does that fit into the Cap?
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