Dude:

It was Doug McLean reporting it.

Ek has a better track record.

'nuff said.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fair enough.

Gotta admit, i was surprised when i read that!

So the question now is: Does hiring Tortarella change the Luongo situation at all? What if Torts comes out and says he wants Luongo as the starter? Was the issue between AV and Luongo or The Canucks and Luongo? Does this change things or is the Canucks/Luongo bridge beyond torched?

Double

...At one aspect of their job. Mismanaging assets? Bad drafting? Not all 29 GM's are guilty of that however Gillis has all 3 checked in his list of "accomplishments"

And your owner is going to be making less if/when Lu is bought out...just sayin
- uf1910

Ya you're right, those damn President's trophies really screw up your drafting position. The owner will not be making less, the ticket price increase will be paying for Lu's buyout.

and so it begins. Deflect and backpeddle
- Cptmjl

Really? Aren't all these GM's hired to make their owners money, sorry you're an Islanders fan, your owner makes his money off the backs of the profitable teams.

This is actually true. Leafs desperately wanted him (they even had a deal in place but Luongo didn't wanna join the Leafs), the Panthers want him, Islanders want him (or ANY goalie), the Lightning want him. Like I was saying, at the end of the day it's going to come down to whichever team can put together the best package. I still think he''ll go to Florida as they have some nice pieces to give in return plus Luongo wants to go there.
- hankthetank

Dale Tallon briefly took one moment of time last season to admit that if he could get a GREAT deal to take Luongo, he'd think about it. Problem here is that YOU think YOU have an "advantage" here. You do not. WTF will it take for you to understand that you're not getting any of the prized young pieces belonging to the Panthers. I'm not even in favor of you getting Matthias whose name is now getting floated. Flat out..you ARE out of your mind.

Thank you. You have finally admitted that you're entire assertion that Gillis should be fired has been based on something you don't actually know.

Well, actually yes, there are now more teams in need of an upgrade in net than there were at the deadline.
- KB3Point0

When did I say that Gillis should be fired? Never. I said he's mismanaged the Luongo portfolio. Yes, more teams are in need of an upgrade in net, but more goaltenders are available. The marketplace is flooded. Wow.

When did I say that Gillis should be fired? Never. I said he's mismanaged the Luongo portfolio. Yes, more teams are in need of an upgrade in net, but more goaltenders are available. The marketplace is flooded. Wow.
- Michael_Stuart

How is the market flooded, there are the same number of goalies as any other year, just more movement of goalies this year.

You're all over the place here!
- KB3Point0

All over the place? I've said all along that Luongo's not worth a ton on the trade market right now. I've said that Gillis mismanaged his portfolio. That's all. That's hardly all over the place. I'm a Luongo fan, and everyone on these boards know that I cheer for the Canucks when they're not playing the Lightning. I'm being realistic. Luongo's not worth a lot.

How is the market flooded, there are the same number of goalies as any other year, just more movement of goalies this year.
- A_SteamingLombardi

There are more goaltenders available (ie. on the market) now than there was at the trade deadline.

Dale Tallon briefly took one moment of time last season to admit that if he could get a GREAT deal to take Luongo, he'd think about it. Problem here is that YOU think YOU have an "advantage" here. You do not. WTF will it take for you to understand that you're not getting any of the prized young pieces belonging to the Panthers. I'm not even in favor of you getting Matthias whose name is now getting floated. Flat out..you ARE out of your mind.
- PanthersGoal

Agreed. whole heartedly

IDK? There were some awesome trade proposals on here for the last couple months. A couple Canucks fans even presented them on our thread. Why don't you ask one of your fellow Canucks fans. You guys seem to be on the up and up more so than the rest of us idiots. It's funny that you guys are finally coming around to the idea you're going to get nothing for him but over the last year up until last week most of you were snubbing your nose at the idea of trading Nino straight up for Luongo? Now that reality has started to set in and you know the Luongo Buy Out blog is coming from Epslen you all were in the know all along
- Cptmjl

You are just wrong. Time for you to move along.

There are more goaltenders available (ie. on the market) now than there was at the trade deadline.
- Michael_Stuart

And more goaltending positions to fill, therefore more demand, greater demand
drives prices up.
For the record I'm all for buying out Lu, allowing him to choose where he goes. Some GMs may want Lu but not his contract, there will be a bidding war for Lu's services if he was a FA. If you don't think Lu would sign with your team as a FA and you want him bad enough then you have to weigh your options and one of those options is to trade for him before he's bought out. Only one teams is going to get him and the rest of those empty goaltending positions will have to be filled with question marks.

So the question now is: Does hiring Tortarella change the Luongo situation at all? What if Torts comes out and says he wants Luongo as the starter? Was the issue between AV and Luongo or The Canucks and Luongo? Does this change things or is the Canucks/Luongo bridge beyond torched?
- fiveandagame

Good question. I still think he's gone, but it's not as crystal clear as it was previously. I think he's just done with getting slagged in this city. The treatment of him by the fans here has been disgraceful.

All over the place? I've said all along that Luongo's not worth a ton on the trade market right now. I've said that Gillis mismanaged his portfolio. That's all. That's hardly all over the place. I'm a Luongo fan, and everyone on these boards know that I cheer for the Canucks when they're not playing the Lightning. I'm being realistic. Luongo's not worth a lot.
- Michael_Stuart

Then I apologize to you. The argument I was having previously was not about his value, it was about whether Gillis should be fired for his treatment of the Luongo situation.

Good question. I still think he's gone, but it's not as crystal clear as it was previously. I think he's just done with getting slagged in this city. The treatment of him by the fans here has been disgraceful.
- KB3Point0

I would agree up until this season. I think once the fans realized they were going to lose him they warmed up to him pretty nicely. His twitter account probably helped.

Really? Aren't all these GM's hired to make their owners money, sorry you're an Islanders fan, your owner makes his money off the backs of the profitable teams.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Not true. He makes his money off of real estate and one of the biggest computer software companys in the world. He loses money on the backs of the rest of the owners in the NHL. He's lost money since purchasing the team, Forbes has reported in excess of 30 million a year. How are the rest of the leagues owners helping Wang? If you're going to insult and be adolescent at least do it with something that is factual. Not that this discussion was about Snow, Wang, or the NY Islanders at all. It was about Gillis. Again, deflect/back peddle, now insult.

How is it that two coaches were fired for their failure to succeed and look to be replacing one another? Only in the NHL

You are just wrong. Time for you to move along.
- KB3Point0

Really? Check on the Islander's thread for some beauties like Strome, Nino, DP for Luongo. Guess what fan of what team proposed that one? Well that must mean you're right then. I'll move along if I want too. You really don't have any control over that. Just because the debate you created isn't going your way and you've been proved wrong numerous times by numerous posters does not mean you suddenly have control over who can post or not. That's almost as ridiculous as thinking that Gillis did nothing wrong in this whole Luongo situation.

I can confirm that Tortorella will be introduced as Canucks new coach on Friday.
- hankthetank

awesome

Good question. I still think he's gone, but it's not as crystal clear as it was previously. I think he's just done with getting slagged in this city. The treatment of him by the fans here has been disgraceful.
- KB3Point0

Louongo - slagged, check
Ballard - slagged, check
Raymond - slagged, check
AV - slagged, check
Kesler - slagged, check
Edler - slagged, check
Gillis - slagged, check
Kassian - slagged, check
Hodgson - slagged, check
Bieksa - slagged, check
Hamhuis - Date to be announced.
Burrows - Date to be announced.
Sedins - Date to be announced.

What great fans we are.

I would agree up until this season. I think once the fans realized they were going to lose him they warmed up to him pretty nicely. His twitter account probably helped.
- fiveandagame

Agreed.

The reason why Lu hasn't been traded yet is his value is too damn high. Nobody can put a package together that's large enough.

Lu's practically priceless.

Well that must mean you're right then. I'll move along if I want too. You really don't have any control over that. Just because the debate you created isn't going your way and you've been proved wrong numerous times by numerous posters does not mean you suddenly have control over who can post or not. That's almost as ridiculous as thinking that Gillis did nothing wrong in this whole Luongo situation.
- Cptmjl

Who said Gillis did nothing wrong? I never said he's totally in the clear. I just said he hasn't done as much wrong as you claim and that he doesn't deserve to lose his job over the Luongo situation.

I have yet to be "proved wrong numerous times by numerous posters" in regards to this conversation.

You have yet to show how Gillis deserves to be fired other than guessing he got good offers a year ago, even though the whole reason he can't get traded now is his contract and he had the same contract last year...

Louongo - slagged, check
Ballard - slagged, check
Raymond - slagged, check
AV - slagged, check
Kesler - slagged, check
Edler - slagged, check
Gillis - slagged, check
Kassian - slagged, check
Hodgson - slagged, check
Bieksa - slagged, check
Hamhuis - Date to be announced.
Burrows - Date to be announced.
Sedins - Date to be announced.

What great fans we are.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Come on now, that isn't fair. The Sedins get slagged all the time too!