that was a whale dung contract...anchored to the ocean floor
- isaiah520

I guess that makes Matt Read whale vomit?

I'm going to hear the negatives on this, but trade Read, Coburn, 2nd for Ryan and Hiller. Read and Hiller are 1 year away from UFA, so they are a wash. Ryan is a top line winger, Read is a versatile top 9 forward on the cheap for this coming season only. Scuderi replaces Coburn on the 2nd pairing with Streit. Hiller plays tandem with Mason, whichever goalie plays better gets the #1 job going forward.

That is all.
- Rocktane

Basically:
Trade reliable player at a position where we have little depth, the cheapest 20-goal scorer in the league, and a draft pick to acquire a player that plays a role already filled by Jake Voracek and a goalie who was beaten out of his job by a rookie? Where do I sign up?

I thought they offered him 3/$15.75 and Streit turned it down?
- jstross

That's what is being rumored. I don't know if that is completely true. I could be wrong but the Islanders are still smart either way. They laid out a price and didn't move off of it.

I like when the Flyers play their youth. If they trade both Coburn and Mez maybe they get back another defenseman who is ready to play now.
- stveshdy

That's also possible.

Scuderi wont be cheap either. He is going to cost you some money.
- stveshdy

Yes, probably similar to what Coburn makes. I haven't run any of my ideas through cap geek, so I'm not sure if it all works together. Just my thoughts. I'd have no problem with Homer looking at Edler, Leddy, or even Demers in SJ. I'd love to have Read re-signed and stick with the core, but you have to give to get. If it comes down to Couturier, BSchenn, or Read being dealt to fill a need, the clear choice is Read.

I think Coburn can really bounce back, with Streit and Gustafsson on the team. He won't be depended on as heavily for offensive input like he was this season.
- BulliesPhan87

Love to see them reunite Kimmo and Coburn... that pairing was money.

Schenn-Timonen
Coburn-Grossmann
Streit-Scuderi

Gustafsson

I would like to get younger on defense. Not a fan of addin Streit and Scuderi who are both older.
- stveshdy

That is what I thought, and that is a pricey defense! I have a feeling Homer is going to do something big like that trade I proposed. I'd prefer if we got younger as well, I just don't see who we target to get there.

That's also possible.
- BulliesPhan87

I'm expecting some changes this summer. Will they be blockbusters? Doubtful. Sometimes making little changes is the way to start.

Basically:
Trade reliable player at a position where we have little depth, the cheapest 20-goal scorer in the league, and a draft pick to acquire a player that plays a role already filled by Jake Voracek and a goalie who was beaten out of his job by a rookie? Where do I sign up?
- jmatchett383

You have your opinion, I have mine. Sign wherever you'd like. Bill asked for our thoughts, I put mine out there.

I think Coburn can really bounce back, with Streit and Gustafsson on the team. He won't be depended on as heavily for offensive input like he was this season.
- BulliesPhan87

agreed. mez can be dumped, but coby's a whole other story. still a good value when he's in the right role. really nervous about moving healthy dmen unless the return is huge.

That is what I thought, and that is a pricey defense! I have a feeling Homer is going to do something big like that trade I proposed. I'd prefer if we got younger as well, I just don't see who we target to get there.
- Rocktane

Yandle, Edler, Shattenkirk, McDonagh, etc.

They all are going to cost you something. Rather do that for a younger defenseman than pay big money for an older UFA defenseman.

I guess that makes Matt Read whale vomit?
- Tomahawk

shhhh! ambergris...sounds exotic. have some ambergris by the fire

shhhh! ambergris...sounds exotic. have some ambergris by the fire
- isaiah520

That must be how Homer tried to entice Lombardi into taking Read for Bernier these past couple of weeks.

That must be how Homer tried to entice Lombardi into taking Read for Bernier these past couple of weeks.


- Tomahawk

I would use Coburn and Read in a deal to land Edler +.

I know Canucks looking to dump salary but they wont get fair value that way.

I would use Coburn and Read in a deal to land Edler +.
- stveshdy

do you think edler is a #1 dman?

Love to see them reunite Kimmo and Coburn... that pairing was money.
- Tomahawk

I can dig it.

That is what I thought, and that is a pricey defense! I have a feeling Homer is going to do something big like that trade I proposed. I'd prefer if we got younger as well, I just don't see who we target to get there.
- Rocktane

How young can we get though really? I think cutting off Briere, Fedetanko, Knuble, Lilja, Shelley and Bryzgalov makes us younger. I think our youth needs to mature now.

do you think edler is a #1 dman?
- flyerscup2011

I think he would be the Flyers best defenseman if he was added.

I think he would be the Flyers best defenseman if he was added.
- stveshdy

agree with you there. any idea if he's available or what it would cost to get him?

agreed. mez can be dumped, but coby's a whole other story. still a good value when he's in the right role. really nervous about moving healthy dmen unless the return is huge.
- isaiah520

He's no fossil either. I wouldn't mind keeping him around for his abilities in a defensive capacity and his skating. Is Streit's skating any good? Grossmann and Timonen aren't exactly greased lightning. Schenn's not exactly a speedster either (though I think his lack of speed was overstated significantly).

I think he would be the Flyers best defenseman if he was added.
- stveshdy

I'm a big Edler fan but if remember correctly not too many fans if his on here.

agree with you there. any idea if he's available or what it would cost to get him?
- flyerscup2011

Vancouver is looking to get bigger upfront. They are also looking to clear some cap space as well.

That must be how Homer tried to entice Lombardi into taking Read for Bernier these past couple of weeks.


- Tomahawk

hah, looks like the pending ufa status of read helped put the kibosh on any deal.

I'm a big Edler fan but if remember correctly not too many fans if his on here.
- flyerfan28

He is better than anything the Flyers have.

Edler can play no doubt about it.

I'm a big Edler fan but if remember correctly not too many fans if his on here.
- flyerfan28

I think you may be mistaken on that front.