I always find your write ups amusing- you consistently that every player on the oilers roster will amount to greatness. Sam Gagner is a nice little player some might argue he might outscore Bozak consistently (although remains to be seen) but he is wanting on other areas...would I take him? Sure but if you think he is worth Gardiner and Reimer- you are insane...unless of course moving up to 7 from 21- seriously ...seriously where do you get off rating Sam Gagner so highly..what has he ever done? Weiss is the same player and he is a uFa....for Phanuef even it would cost you Gagner plus....give me a break

I wouldn't even consider gagner for gardiner straight up let alone the Leafs having to add more no thanks.
- jake24242

well said

Make fun of Leafs fans for hyping Gardiner yet your blogger hypes up Klefbom like he's the next Lidstrom. No way Oilers get Gardiner for a small soft center like Gagner.
- Smurfs-A-Joke

dont forget the Harkaainen....but its amusing

Our blogger doesn't post ridiculous trade proposals. Lucic for Whitney remember that?
- Smurfs-A-Joke

there's a cap blogger?
or are you a leaf fan today?

it would be really really hard to find a undersized centre who consistently nets 45 points....

Maple Leaf Blog

How about Taylor Hall for Phaneuf? We get our first line center and you get your defensive leader.
- PrinceLH

So would you guys be terribly dissapointed if we wound up with something like:

Dion
21st
____

Gagner
Klefbom
7th

Just looking to see what people think
- AngryWhiteMale


- AlEx_OiL

Phaneuf for Gagner, straight across is about right.

Matter of opinion, but I would disagree.
- pbrsimps

I only said Gagner Value higher right now because of the amount of years he have already play and show he can produce,Gardiner had only One season with yes great potential but He only have one season under his belt so if He keeps producing the same or better in the next 2 to 3 years then I will said his value is higher but right now Gagner have that advantage IMO.

it would be really really hard to find a undersized centre who consistently nets 45 points....
- Seahawk

he was on pace for 65 this year.
just sayin

I think ganger for phenuf is the trade the oilers are looking at, but only if phenuf signs an extenion. That traded i'd take any day. I still don't see the oilers drafting lindholm he doesn't really fit our need aside from replacing ganger if we trade him and i think that role needs to go to a bigger center. I think nurse or rasmus is more likely. If barkov or monahan isn't there at no 7 and it doesn't seem likely they will be.
- deadsector

Lindhom is already about 6'0, 192lbs. Pretty sure he will be able to gain 15 pounds easy by the time he is pro. No problem drafting him to eventually be our 2C.

Phaneuf for Gagner, straight across is about right.
- seanjohn667

why try and rile leaf fans up?

of course it's not.

Phaneuf for Gagner, straight across is about right.
- seanjohn667

Sure. But what does that do our Depth at Center? Lander can only Center 1,maybe 2 lines at a time.

Phaneuf for Gagner, straight across is about right.
- seanjohn667

I disagree .... But WTF do I know

Phaneuf for Gagner, straight across is about right.
- seanjohn667

Yes and no,and no because Gagner is the younger here with a bit more potential,if Gagner had the same age as Phaneuf then yes.

I wouldn't take any combination of TO players for RNH. Sorry not even a little sorry.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Thats just silly, you could take our top players and prospects for him, than package some of them to get a better C than RNH

Yes and no,and no because Gagner is the younger here with a bit more potential,if Gagner had the same age as Phaneuf then yes.
- AlEx_OiL

Sure. But what does that do our Depth at Center? Lander can only Center 1,maybe 2 lines at a time.
- Jeropotato

Mact can't do that trade without having another trade in the works. Hemsky for Zach Smith or something like. the 7th for a veteran C?

This whole thread is retarded.

Firstly, The Leafs are not going to trade Gardiner.As far as they are concerned he is the next big thing among NHL Defencemen. Maybe,maybe not, only time will tell but he no doubt is going to be good.

Secondly, If Mac T chooses to trade Gags it will be only if they can trade for/sign a legit #2/1a Center before hand. He is not going to risk a 18yo rookie like Lindholm or Monahhan ,Anton Lander,Marc Arcobello and Ryan Smyth as his Center icemen to start the season.

Thirdly, if the Oil do land a D via trade, he should be a different type than Gardiner, I would think. A strong steady 2 way guy that can babysit Schultz and cover for his roaming ass is what we need.If that person has a boomer for a point shot I would consider it a bonus.

Fourthly (is that a word?) Why would we trade a Center for a Goalie? Thats retarded. Reimer is good, but better than Dubey? Maybe, but it's not a slam dunk.Nor is the margin worth our only NHL Center either.

What's next? Someone is going to post something about the Oilers D being better than Bostons?
- Jeropotato

Logic

Yes and no,and no because Gagner is the younger here with a bit more potential,if Gagner had the same age as Phaneuf then yes.
- AlEx_OiL

For sure.
Leafs would need to add Kessel to sweeten the pot.

- The_Vark

I don't believe Dion Phaneuf is going to get any better but Gagner at 23 have more potential to improve and be the better player of the two.

You had the perfect reponse in Yost's topic. I was going to say something less concise and more angry

I think we ought to make this as a first post on each Cloutier blog.

Remember Kids: Cloutier =/= All Oilers Fans =/= Oilers Management

- Morris

Could you make one that says " Crazy delusional Leaf fans =/= every Leaf fan"?

For sure.
Leafs would need to add Kessel to sweeten the pot.
- daws44

Nope but if the Leaft GM offer that sure the Oil Gm would take that

Oilers would be smart to move RNH before his value falls. He is the young gun who will fall. The Oilers would be wise to stay away from Dion, he's nothing more than a pylon.

it would be really really hard to find a undersized centre who consistently nets 45 points....
- Seahawk

Then it shouldn't be too hard to sign him for under 4 Million, might as well keep him.

first post of every page from now on.
the only way we have any chance of getting this through to people
- hugefemale dog77

You think you have it bad? Try being a Leaf fan

Oilers would be smart to move RNH before his value falls. He is the young gun who will fall.
- thegooddr

Thanks for that. No shortage of baseless Troll comments from around the league today, I see.