gagner is one year older than gardiner. but of course he's maxed out in potential, while gardiner still has tons of developing to do.
- hugefemale dog77

I think its more about how many seasons and games Gagner has had...JUST KEEP HIM, stop trying to force the (frank)ing guy on the Leafs

Edmonton could do worse than trade for Reimer. Depends on how the draft goes down for them. If they grab Monahan or Lindholm, Gagner becomes an option to deal to Toronto.

So then keep him if hes that good, end of story
- PinkSock

Yeah, it's the same with Gardiner and the leafs.

To assume that Oilers fans are dying to trade Gagner is again the classic Oilers fans == Cloutier == oilers management fallacy so prevalent on hb.

We both like our players and want to keep them. And lucky for us, neither player is likely to get traded.

Hey, you said he was top 16 in the NHL season, and had room to grow, since he had a lot of potential. I'm not imagining things, just using logic. Not imagining Gardiner's trade value either, you're the same person that accused Leafs fans of being huge fans of Gardiner after a good playoff series, but overlooked the fact that he had a stellar season last season, and actually didn't have that great of a impressive playoff series (Good, not great)
- Nastradamus

I said he was 16th in C scoring this year meaning he can be a fringe 1C or great 2C.

Stellar AHL season. Go tell that to Justin Schultz who lead all D men in points in the AHL after 30 games

Yeah, it's the same with Gardiner and the leafs.

To assume that Oilers fans are dying to trade Gagner is again the classic Oilers fans == Cloutier == oilers management fallacy so prevalent on hb.

We both like our players and want to keep them. And lucky for us, neither player is likely to get traded.
- Morris

Agreed, lol. Gagner's coming off a good season, why mess with something that appears to be working well.

Unless of course they can't seem to agree on a contract.

So why would they trade a player who's shown the potential to cruise over 50 points when he seems to be valued as a sub-50 point hack? To what end would that be beneficial to the Oilers?
- Morris

No, he has nit shown the ability to CRUISE over 50 points because he has never even got to 50 points, Gardnier has shown the ability to EASILY be a top 4 defender, see using hypothetical situations work both ways, and im not saying it is bad trade

I think its more about how many seasons and games Gagner has had...JUST KEEP HIM, stop trying to force the (frank)ing guy on the Leafs
- PinkSock

Please explain what this means bearing in mind that Cloutier neither speaks for all oilers fans nor management, and that this rumour came from a leafs writer.

You just go from bad to worse...
- Iggysbff

Key word pace, never actually did
- 6Karlsson5

Moving Karlsson up to the wing may be a good idea, because he sucks crap defensively

Yeah, it's the same with Gardiner and the leafs.

To assume that Oilers fans are dying to trade Gagner is again the classic Oilers fans == Cloutier == oilers management fallacy so prevalent on hb.

We both like our players and want to keep them. And lucky for us, neither player is likely to get traded.
- Morris

Agreed, and I like Gagner, but the whole trade "rumor" is silly, made up off the top of a bloggers head

Edmonton could do worse than trade for Reimer. Depends on how the draft goes down for them. If they grab Monahan or Lindholm, Gagner becomes an option to deal to Toronto.
- Rocktane

In couple years sure/maybe.

I`m glad your not the GM.
- AlEx_OiL

Top 4 D men come from scraps.

I'm glad you're not attempting to back me up. You have no credibility to me. You just run your mouth about how much you hate hemsky and how bad cloutier is.

Gardiner is not moving in any deal for a small C like Gags. Never happen

No, he has nit shown the ability to CRUISE over 50 points because he has never even got to 50 points, Gardnier has shown the ability to EASILY be a top 4 defender, see using hypothetical situations work both ways, and im not saying it is bad trade
- 6Karlsson5

By playing 7 games?

Please explain what this means bearing in mind that Cloutier neither speaks for all oilers fans nor management, and that this rumour came from a leafs writer.
- Morris

The posters , and the arguing about whos better, blah blah blah, I got better things to do

No, he has nit shown the ability to CRUISE over 50 points because he has never even got to 50 points, Gardnier has shown the ability to EASILY be a top 4 defender, see using hypothetical situations work both ways, and im not saying it is bad trade
- 6Karlsson5

Well, note that I used the word potential and you used the word ability. You naughty boy, putting words in my mouth.

I think Gardiner could very easily become a top 4 defender and I think Gagner could very easily score over 50 points. I don't see what's too controversial about that.

Again, if there's any chance that Gagner could become a consistent 50+ point player, having shown gamebreaking ability at a relatively young age, why would we trade him for peanuts because everyone considers him to be a guy who will NEVER hit 50 points?

Agreed, and I like Gagner, but the whole trade "rumor" is silly, made up off the top of a bloggers head
- PinkSock

Bingo. Notice he's not targeting panthers fans with his rumours. He goes for the hits.

I think its more about how many seasons and games Gagner has had...JUST KEEP HIM, stop trying to force the (frank)ing guy on the Leafs
- PinkSock

no one is.
what are u talking about?
our blogger? wtf does he have to do with any of us other than he happens to write for the team we cheer for?

and gagner's done developing cause he's been around for longer?

am I allowed to use that gags clearly has to be worth more cause he's more proven then too?
or do u guys get to have it both ways?

The posters , and the arguing about whos better, blah blah blah, I got better things to do
- PinkSock

No, he has nit shown the ability to CRUISE over 50 points because he has never even got to 50 points, Gardnier has shown the ability to EASILY be a top 4 defender, see using hypothetical situations work both ways, and im not saying it is bad trade
- 6Karlsson5

Gagner was on pace for 65P this season...that means nothing to you.

Gardiner gets called up from the AHL for 20 games and he's EASILY a top 4 D man.

Alright. Loud and clear

Gardiner is not moving in any deal for a small C like Gags. Never happen
- Leafs24seven

yes. We know. Gardiner would not be enough.

Can you stop pulling Gardiner into your blogs he is more untouchable then any of the oilers, and has proven more then any of young oilers defence

Can you stop pulling Gardiner into your blogs he is more untouchable then any of the oilers, and has proven more then any of young oilers defence
- shill-17

Well, this just isn't true lol.

Why is Gardiner's name brought up here everyday??

TO has terrible D. They won't deal him. End up discussion. Stop bringing it up Clouts for (frank) sakes

So then keep him if hes that good, end of story
- PinkSock

Don't know if you noticed, but most Oiler fans want to keep him...

Its only trollers that keep bringing him up.