bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Wouldn't have done it, but don't hate it. Love Eriksson, he's a legit 30 goal scorer, natural winger, and plays solid in both ends. Will be a solid B. Joe Morrow is a legit high end d prospect. Other 2 are NHL ready mid 6 guys, both wingers where we're shallow. Add in the gained cap space. If we sign Alfie now on top of this, we're better than we were IMO - Double_A
Seems odd the amount of prospects coming back to try to even it out. Would have rather of had more immediate help. Shave off 4+ million in cap space. Not who I would have targeted, but don't hate it |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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Seems odd the amount of prospects coming back to try to even it out. Would have rather of had more immediate help. Shave off 4+ million in cap space. Not who I would have targeted, but don't hate it - bruinsbeer69
All 3 of those guys are awfully close to being NHL players if they aren't already. I think you'll see either Reilly or Fraser see ice time this year on L3. |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Btw. Get ready for a ton of stories to come out about Tyler getting sh1tfaced and missing team meetings,being too drunk, and not fitting in. That's what always happens |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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All 3 of those guys are awfully close to being NHL players if they aren't already. I think you'll see either Reilly or Fraser see ice time this year on L3. - Double_A
Seems like we have enough NHL ready guys
New CBA. Need cheap talent around your core. |
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DJ Bean @DJ_Bean 4m
Was just told the Bruins' new cap space does not change Horton's mind about ruling out B's. Wants to be elsewhere. |
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I'm gonna (frank)ing puke.
We got older, less talent ceiling, and more 3rd line talent ...
Just what we (frank)ing needed
Could have and should have just dumped Peverley somewhere.
(frank)ing gross
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Kirk's Call: Analysis of the Tyler Seguin trade to Dallas
By Kirk Luedeke
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
The Boston Bruins and GM Peter Chiarelli proved that adage correct after a draft weekend rife with discussion but no action involvingTyler Seguin, but after a few days back in Boston from Newark, the 2010 second overall pick is headed to Big D.
The 21-year-old former OHL top scorer was dealt to the Dallas Stars on Independence Day with forward Rich Peverley and prospect defenseman Ryan Button for veteran left wing Loui Eriksson, along with prospects Joe Morrow, Matt Fraser and Reilly Smith.
Though the trade is sure to draw criticism from the segment of fandom convinced Seguin is a superstar in waiting, the B’s were tired of his off-ice act and immaturity. His on-ice performance simply wasn’t enough, the team realized, after a mediocre playoffs in which his club won in spite of him rather because of consistent contributions. So, Seguin gets a clean start in the Western Conference on a new, six-year deal that kicks in and pays him $5.7 million per year. If he resurrects his stock by getting back to generating high-end offense and bringing a more committed approach to the Stars organization, then new Dallas GM Jim Nill is a big winner here.
For the Bruins, this is a public admission of a mistake. Chiarelli signed Seguin because he believed the third-year winger (who was drafted as a center) would take a major step forward and demand a higher monetary value on an expiring ELC. The anticipated success never materialized, however. After playing well in Switzerland during the lockout, he returned to Boston for a sluggish start before heating up and finishing the 48-game season with 16 goals and 32 points, well off his pace from a year ago.
When Seguin couldn’t get going in the postseason, the B’s had seen enough and pulled the trigger to start anew with a different look and upgrade in character.
On paper, the Stars are getting a potential big payoff in the supremely talented, but underachieving Seguin. The Bruins don’t get nearly enough potential in return, but every piece of the deal is a better fit for Boston’s system and the premium the team places on speed, skill, character and commitment.
Here’s a look at what Boston gets back for this blockbuster summer deal:
Cap space: The biggest return the B’s got on this deal besides the savvy veteran Eriksson was flexibility. With $9 million tied up in both of Seguin and Peverley, they took on just $4.25 million back with Eriksson, who is signed through 2016. This gives Boston the flexibility to lock up Tuukka Rask and Patrice Bergeron to long-term deals while perhaps saving more cash to grab a bigger name in the 2013 free agent derby (they can apply Marc Savard’s $4 million in LTIR against the cap if they need it). Daniel Alfredsson was a name rumored to be a Boston target, and there is a lot more money there today to pursue him than before.
Loui Eriksson, LW — The only NHL regular to come back to Boston in the trade, Eriksson turns 28 later this month, and has three more years left on a cap-friendly contract (he waived his NTC to join the Bruins). The speedy scoring wing scored 36 goals in 2009 and has not hit that 30-goal mark since, but is a consistent 70-point guy and will bring that coveted offensive presence from the left side. He’s an underrated player and member of that glorious 2003 draft class, when Dallas stole him early in the second round at 33rd overall.
Joe Morrow, D — The former Pittsburgh Penguins first-round pick in 2011 (23rd overall) finds himself dealt for the second time in less than four months, but brings an impressive offensive upside from the blue line to the mix. The 6-foot-1, 206-pounder is a very good skater who excels at making the first pass and kicking the transition game into high gear. He has a booming point shot (that he’s not always accurate with), but is not afraid to throw pucks to the net for deflections. His defense is not a strength, but not an area of weakness, either. He has the size, skating and vision to be an effective PP quarterback. He could see time in Boston this year, but will have a tough time beating the incumbents out in training camp. If he goes down to Providence, watch for him to be at the top of the call-up list. For more on Morrow, you can read his scouting profile on the 2011 Bruins Draft Watch Blog.
Matt Fraser, RW — The Texas Stars franchise leader in goals with 70 in two seasons is a 6-foot-2 winger with competitive drive and a wicked shot. His skating is average, with a sluggish first few steps, but he has the hockey sense and hustle to work his way into prime scoring areas. An undrafted free agent out of the Kootenay Ice of the WHL, he willed himself into the NHL (13 games with Dallas over two seasons) through sheer drive and determination. He was a fan favorite at the Cedar Park Center for his passion and ability to score big goals in the clutch. If he doesn’t make the big club out of camp, he makes an already good Providence team a hell of a lot better.
Reilly Smith, RW — The Stars’ third-round selection in 2009 (Boston’s own third-rounder- Ryan Button was sent to the Lone Star State in this one) is an intriguing piece of this trade because of his speed and hands. Playing a similar style to departed Boston winger Rich Peverley, Smith is versatile and can play an effective bottom-six role, as he appeared in 37 games with Dallas (3-6-9) after racking up 35 points in 45 AHL games with Texas. He was particularly adept in shootouts, where he was able to dangle and find the back of the net from in tight. A member of a top college program in the Miami University Redhawks, Smith is underrated. He’s not all that strong and has trouble in the tighter-checking game, but compensates with his slick elusiveness and ability to read the play and go where the puck will be. |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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I'm gonna (frank)ing puke.
We got older, less talent ceiling, and more 3rd line talent ...
Just what we (frank)ing needed
Could have and should have just dumped Peverley somewhere.
(frank)ing gross - JS2012
Still hoping there's another shoe to drop with the cap freed.
We gave up a potential superstar, but got a bonafide all star in return. |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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Seems like we have enough NHL ready guys
New CBA. Need cheap talent around your core. - bruinsbeer69
Watched a few Stars game this year and both those kids jumped out. I think both will win over B's fans. Don't know much about Morrow aside from him being highly touted puck mover. |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m
Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit.
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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Mick Colageo @MickColageo 3m
Chiarelli: "I'm not done yet." #Bruins |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m
Alfredsson's decision: Ottawa, Boston or Detroit. - Double_A
Looch Krejci Erickson
Marchand Bergy Alfredsson
Yeti Kelly Ryder
Paille Campbell Thornton
Thoughts? |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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The Joe Morrow kid was the one Pittsburgh traded to Dallas for Brendan Morrow before the deadline.
Former 1st rounder. Big upside |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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Looch Krejci Erickson
Marchand Bergy Alfredsson
Yeti Kelly Ryder
Paille Campbell Thornton
Thoughts? - bruinsbeer69
Don't think we'll get both, but would be awesome. Really think you'll see a kid on 3RW (Fraser, Smith, Knight, Camper etc). Intrigued by the Fraser kid, sounds like he could be a late blooming Bertuzzi type. Not a great skater but wicked shot and hard worker. |
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salvadorsanchez
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Location: Just North of Mexico, CA Joined: 04.11.2011
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Not surprised they traded seguin. I think he will be a very good player but krecji and bergy were top two centers and will be for another 5 years. I think his off ice stuff got under the skin of people in front office. I don't think Neely or chia have patience for media and celebrity poop. Look at the history of bruins stars and you see bourque, Neely, Orr, Oates etc. guys like seguin, kessel or Thornton who were heralded but never fit into the system or team.
We shall see. I hope Dougie makes the jump this summer. Seguin will bang a ton of female doges in Dallas. Lots of fame whores |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Don't think we'll get both, but would be awesome. Really think you'll see a kid on 3RW (Fraser, Smith, Knight, Camper etc). Intrigued by the Fraser kid, sounds like he could be a late blooming Bertuzzi type. Not a great skater but wicked shot and hard worker. - Double_A
We got 2 way players who fit under our cap with big upside. They got an expensive kid with superstar potential if he focuses on hockey
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Everything is big in Texas.....imagine the size of Candace's ***hole after she starts clubbing down there |
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salvadorsanchez
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Location: Just North of Mexico, CA Joined: 04.11.2011
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salvadorsanchez
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Location: Just North of Mexico, CA Joined: 04.11.2011
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does marchand get shipped out along with bart and a prospect or for bobby ryan?
SS3 |
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Fountain-San
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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Still hoping there's another shoe to drop with the cap freed.
We gave up a potential superstar, but got a bonafide all star in return. - Double_A
its a very good trade. |
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Fountain-San
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Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME Joined: 02.21.2007
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The Joe Morrow kid was the one Pittsburgh traded to Dallas for Brendan Morrow before the deadline.
Former 1st rounder. Big upside - bruinsbeer69
and well over 4 million in cap space to work with |
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Double_A
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Location: SK Joined: 06.04.2008
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http://espn.go.com/nhl/player/stats/_/id/3161/loui-eriksson
Consistentcy is what you get with Eriksson.
I think the yeti makes an impact this year as well.
Need a RW. Iggy?
- salvadorsanchez
All BS aside, I'd still take Iggy on short term. |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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New GM in Dallas expects Peverly to be in their top 6
And (frank) no to Iginla. He could have been a Bruin and snubbed us. What exactly did he do in the playoffs except suck like 99% of the Penguins. I hope he goes out like Mats Sundin and Roenick.....cup less |
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gforce
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Location: People's Republic Joined: 11.18.2007
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Erikkson can play. (frank) it, I'm well on board with this trade. |
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bruinsbeer69
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Location: Willcox, AZ Joined: 09.23.2010
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Erikkson can play. (frank) it, I'm well on board with this trade. - gforce
Ditto |
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