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Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
Whats the gig on Savard's contract? Not clear why he hasn't just formally retired...
- busher


Would think if he officially retires he would forfeit his remaining contract, so he's just got to ride it out.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
Whats the gig on Savard's contract? Not clear why he hasn't just formally retired...
- busher

He continues to get paid if he doesn't retire
busher
Boston Bruins
Location: BC
Joined: 07.09.2007

Jun 25 @ 4:55 PM ET
He continues to get paid if he doesn't retire
- Cape Breton Bruins


Wouldn't insurance cover that?
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 25 @ 6:57 PM ET
still trying to figure out if we an re-sign rask before july 5 and if they don't if philthy can sign him to an offer sheet
i think both answers are yes
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
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Jun 25 @ 7:11 PM ET
Wouldn't insurance cover that?
- busher

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...ight-not-ever-play-again/

salvadorsanchez
Boston Bruins
Location: Just North of Mexico, CA
Joined: 04.11.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:03 PM ET

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...stic-video-195211668.html

I've wavered back and forth on groin. I think he's a good teammate and competitor but adios muchacho. social media maven.
bruinsbeer69
Boston Bruins
Location: Willcox, AZ
Joined: 09.23.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:37 PM ET
I'd say Horton will garnish way too much on the open market to keep him in Boston. Something tells me the Leafs will shell out top dollar for his services.

As it stands:

Forwards:

M.Lucic($6.0m)-D.Krejci($5.25m)-T.Seguin($5.75m)
B.Marchand($4.5m)-P.Bergeron($5.0m)-R.Peverley($3.25m)
D.Paille($1.3m)-C.Kelly($3.0m)-C.Soderberg($1.0m)
R.Spooner($0.87m)-G.Campbell($1.6m)-S.Thornton($1.1m)
K.Daugvins($0.6m)

Total = $39.22m

Defense/Goaltending

Z.Chara($6.92m)-D.Seidenberg($3.25m)
J.Boychuk($3.37m)-T.Krug($1.7m)
A.McQuaid($1.57m)-D.Hamilton($1.49m)
M.Bartowski($0.65m)

T.Rask($6.5m)
backup($0.8m)

Total = $26.25m

Grand Total = $65.47m

That team is $1m over the cap and I didn't even include Marc Savard's LTIR situation.

I think you have to consider moving two current roster guys. My choices would be Peverley and McQuaid. Pair the 3 vets with the three young guys on D. Promote Knight or any upstart in training camp and have faith in your high priced guys to improve on their Offensive numbers next year.

Leaves us a little thin on D, but there will be a ton of vets that can me had for under a mil.

- Cape Breton Bruins


I'd be surprised if Chicago and Boston dont get poached by teams looking to move up.

Toronto made good strides this season, and just got a goalie who matters. Not going to be fun if they add to the forward ranks.

I think Harvard is sentimental, and will try to keep as many core guys as possible. Horty and Greenpeace are to candidates to go.....but man, Ference was great in the Pittsburgh series, and Horton had a monster 3 rounds leading up to the finals before injuries got the best of him. Hard to argue with moving any of them other than letting UFA's Jagr and Borat move along. Kelly was the best Bruin last night in game 6. Peverly was lights out in the faceoff dot in game 3 and had flashes of his former self. It's honestly ridiculous how many guys are still around from the cup team.
Toad in Nj
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Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
the cap is all about retaining your core and filling the open spots with kids
that is what is going to have to be done..you can't let hamilton, bartkowski, and krug not prove their worth at the nhl level
it sucks but that is the reality of the situation
i doubt they trade someone like bartkowski after he showed he belongs to keep ference
love the guy, he could help any team he goes to and even if they somehow trade peverley (NOT KELLY) you are still dealing with a #'s game...at least that would be more manageable but not sure i see that happening
i think toronto might go after bickel over horton just due to the injury history
horton obviously has the more proven track record, especially when it counts

must get rask done before the 5th, flyers will do what they have to to be able to sign rask
Toad in Nj
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Jun 26 @ 9:48 AM ET
The NHL on Monday moved to close a loophole left in the allegedly airtight collective bargaining agreement by notifying general managers the league would deem re-signing a player following a trade and a subsequent amnesty buyout as circumvention, and thus would not register the contract, The Post has learned.

It is believed the Lightning and Maple Leafs had discussed such a maneuver regarding Vincent Lecavalier, who has seven years and $45 million remaining on his contract, with the buyout thus worth slightly more than $30 million.

The amnesty buyout period begins Wednesday night at 11:00, and lasts through July 4, one day before the opening of this year’s free agent market.

The clubs theoretically would have concocted a swap in which Tampa Bay would have sent an asset — perhaps a draft pick — to rolling-in-dough Toronto along with Lecavalier, who would have re-signed a more modest deal with the Lightning after being bought out by the Leafs.

Such a scheme would have saved Tampa Bay’s ownership a substantial sum while easing a cap squeeze for general manager Steve Yzerman, whose club currently faces a charge of $7.727 million per for Lecavalier through 2019-20 and the danger of significant cap-recapture penalties should No. 4 retire while still under contract.

The Leafs would have received an asset while the 33-year-old Lecavalier would at least have been made whole. It would have been a win-win-win situation ... but the NHL obviously perceived this — or any similar scheme — as a loss for the integrity of the labor agreement spawned by Owners’ Lockout III.

It is unknown whether the Lightning will amnesty Lecavalier on their own. Players who are bought out cannot be re-signed by their original clubs for one year. That is part of the CBA.

* Anyone and everyone marveled at how the Blackhawks and Bruins went above and beyond the call of duty in the Blood ’n Guts Stanley Cup Final that did the athletes proud.

This was great theatre, if not always great hockey, that culminated in Boston on Monday with the jaw-dropping finish — in which Chicago struck twice within 17 seconds in the final 1:16 to turn a 2-1 deficit and a looming trip back home for Game 7 into a 3-2 clinching victory and a second championship celebration in four years.

But while appreciating the profiles in courage cast by the players onto the North American consciousness, the physical toll extracted by the demands of the tournament — and the NHL’s failure to apply the rule book — wreaked havoc on the product.

But the casualties of what the league loves to promote as a “war of attrition” were manifest. Patrice Bergeron played the final game with a broken rib, torn cartilage and a separated shoulder. Marian Hossa, who missed Game 3, played through a bulging disc that caused numbness in one leg. Bryan Bickell, who scored the tying goal with 1:16 to play on Monday, sustained a Grade 2 knee sprain in the conference finals against the Kings.

Zdeno Chara played through an unidentified injury that rendered him ineffective by the end of the series, for which he was on the ice for nine of Chicago’s final 12 goals. Jaromir Jagr was compromised by an undisclosed injury that limited No. 68 to 6:27 of ice on Monday. Michal Handzus is believed to have played with a broken wrist. Nathan Horton likely had a separated shoulder.

It’s the nature of the beast that features four best-of-sevens, but it’s also a by-product of unstated league playoff policy that allows, and thus encourages, physical beat-downs at every goalmouth scrum, cross-checks all over the ice, wrestling after every whistle and blows to the head that go unpunished.

It takes its toll, and the toll is on the level of artistry — a term that somehow has become a pejorative in hockey circles — that’s presented as the playoffs evolve.

* Finally, you have to have elevating talent such as that owned by Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane to win the Cup, but you also have to have size, and plenty of it.

Which is to say the Rangers aren’t as close as they think.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
#21 confirms he's not coming back. Too bad, as much sh!t as we give him, was a warrior. Hope he does well wherever he ends up.
gforce
Boston Bruins
Location: People's Republic
Joined: 11.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
#21 confirms he's not coming back. Too bad, as much sh!t as we give him, was a warrior. Hope he does well wherever he ends up.
- Double_A



(frank)in ultimate bruin for a long time and will be missed.
gforce
Boston Bruins
Location: People's Republic
Joined: 11.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
Trade Kelley, keep Peverley.
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 11:18 AM ET
Trade Kelley, keep Peverley.
- gforce

(frank) off
Toad in Nj
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Jun 26 @ 11:21 AM ET
Mike Loftus ‏@MLoftus_Ledger 53m

#Bruins LW Jay Pandolfo says he's leaning toward retirement.
Toad in Nj
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Jun 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
Michael Giardi ‏@MikeGiardi 19m

Rask said ideally he's a Boston Bruin for life #bruinstalk
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 11:36 AM ET
#21 confirms he's not coming back. Too bad, as much sh!t as we give him, was a warrior. Hope he does well wherever he ends up.
- Double_A

Too bad, type of guy you need to win but he's time as come and gone as a Bruin. Glad to see him win a cup here.

I like our D next year when it comes to improving the PP and moving the puck faster out of our own end.
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 11:37 AM ET
Trade Kelley, keep Peverley.
- gforce


I was on the fence about this for awhile and often leaned towards Peverley > Kelly because he's a RH shot that can play wing but Kelly is a more sound overall player and built for the playoffs.
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
Too bad, type of guy you need to win but he's time as come and gone as a Bruin. Glad to see him win a cup here.

I like our D next year when it comes to improving the PP and moving the puck faster out of our own end.

- Cape Breton Bruins

agreed
hope he doesn't go to the habs or flyers
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
I was on the fence about this for awhile and often leaned towards Peverley > Kelly because he's a RH shot that can play wing but Kelly is a more sound overall player and built for the playoffs.
- Cape Breton Bruins

kelly, when on, is bergy light
he had a bad year..you don't dump him for that
i like peverley but he makes too much for what he brings to the table and want to see spooner/cyclops
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
kelly, when on, is bergy light
he had a bad year..you don't dump him for that
i like peverley but he makes too much for what he brings to the table and want to see spooner/cyclops

- Toad in Nj

I'd say he lands somewhere between his 20 goal season and where he was this past year. The consistent part is his play in the playoffs which is fine by me. To have both seems a bit redundant but I still keep Pevs unless I'm dumping him to either keep Horton or to sign his replacement.
Toad in Nj
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Jun 26 @ 1:56 PM ET
Katie Strang ‏@KatieStrangESPN 11m

#NYR The compliance buyout window begins tonight at 11 p.m. and ends on July 4 before free agency opens the following day
Cape Breton Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'd say Horton will garnish way too much on the open market to keep him in Boston. Something tells me the Leafs will shell out top dollar for his services.

As it stands:

Forwards:

M.Lucic($6.0m)-D.Krejci($5.25m)-T.Seguin($5.75m)
B.Marchand($4.5m)-P.Bergeron($5.0m)-R.Peverley($3.25m)
D.Paille($1.3m)-C.Kelly($3.0m)-C.Soderberg($1.0m)
R.Spooner($0.87m)-G.Campbell($1.6m)-S.Thornton($1.1m)
K.Daugvins($0.6m)

Total = $39.22m

Defense/Goaltending

Z.Chara($6.92m)-D.Seidenberg($3.25m)
J.Boychuk($3.37m)-T.Krug($1.7m)
A.McQuaid($1.57m)-D.Hamilton($1.49m)
M.Bartowski($0.65m)

T.Rask($6.5m)
backup($0.8m)

Total = $26.25m

Grand Total = $65.47m

That team is $1m over the cap and I didn't even include Marc Savard's LTIR situation.

I think you have to consider moving two current roster guys. My choices would be Peverley and McQuaid. Pair the 3 vets with the three young guys on D. Promote Knight or any upstart in training camp and have faith in your high priced guys to improve on their Offensive numbers next year.

Leaves us a little thin on D, but there will be a ton of vets that can me had for under a mil.

- Cape Breton Bruins


Now that we know that Ference, Jagr and Pandolfo are not coming back the picture gets a little more clear. Either we Move Peverley to sign Horton, or we pass on Horton and package Peverley with someone like Bartowski for another top six RW and resign Redden as a 7th dman. Third option is to walk a away from Horton and stand pat with the lineup posted above and hope Rask takes a slight discount.

Worst case scenario(and quite likely) is that Rask get between $6-$7m and the Bruins are forced to both walk away from Horton AND dump Peverley for some cap relief. That means its show time for both Spooner and Knight, at least until a ways into the season where they can look at trade option to improve the forwards.

Lucic-Krejci-Seguin
Marchand-Bergeron-Soderberg
Paille-Kelly-Spooner
Daugvins-Campbell-Thornton
Knight

Also read on twitter today there are rumors around the league that the Bruins would consider trading Seguin at the draft. What a (frank)ing mistake that would be.
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
Joe Haggerty ‏@HackswithHaggs 7m

Best moment of B's breakup day. Somebody asked Tuukka Rask if he was worried abt contract situation: "Why would I be worried?" Exactly

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
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Jun 26 @ 2:13 PM ET
Would you......

Trade Marchand to keep Horton?
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Would you......

Trade Marchand to keep Horton?

- Cape Breton Bruins


Nope.

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