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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:42 PM ET
Hard to say I guess, really don't want Darcy anyplace near this team anymore. My biggest fear is if he moves both or just one, we don't get enough in return.
- SABRES 89


I'm not too worried about us getting enough. If its one thing we have learned about Darcy is he over values his players. He isn't going to move them unless he gets what he wants for them.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
this would be a horrible trade for us

Kuznetsov, I love, but it looks like he enjoys playing in the KHL, Johansson is nothing special imo. and one 1st for both Vanek and Miller, you could argue we got more for just pommer by himself.

- Mentalorgasm5



He will be coming over after next season..if he doesn't go back on his word.

Marcus Johansson has progressed every year since his draft, jumping from SEL to NHL. He may pan out into a St. Louis-lite type of player, or he may not. He shows signs that he can stick around though.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
Couturier + for vanek
- gerbe75pts

Not a F$$KIN chance JR.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:43 PM ET
..Okay?

Orlov and Johansson are two good, young players. I'd rather keep them, but Orlov is definitely in play.

- Blackstrom2

Johansson is a speedy forward who can't finish to save his life, Perrault is a career bottom 6 guy and Orlov has a moderate ceiling. Considering what you have up to get Erat, how do you figure any of those guys gets you a first line LW?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
Couturier + for vanek
- gerbe75pts



Deal

Top six: Couturier, Armia, Shinkaruk, Mcdavid, Hodgson, Grigorenko


2016 stanley cup champions! (I probably have one too many centres there don't I )
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
I'm not too worried about us getting enough. If its one thing we have learned about Darcy is he over values his players. He isn't going to move them unless he gets what he wants for them.
- Stripes77

Darcy is on crack
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
Then screw that combination. My point was a line of those 3 guys would be pretty incredible.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

New mocks actually have Nichushkin falling to us at 8, which would be amazing. Landing him and hopefully Lazar at 16 would be a perfect round for us. Hopefully we can trade Miller or Vanek before or at the draft and land one more first. Thats my dream.
HardPuck
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Jumping off the bridge contrac
Joined: 08.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
St. Louis?

TJ Oshie and a first rounder please.
Oshie is a 26 year old power center who is exactly the type of leader the Sabres are looking to add. He's big, tough and skilled. His career high is 19 goals scored and his ceiling is 30-35 goals pet season high.
Oshie has 4 years remaining on a 5 year deal that makes him a $4,175,000 per season.

If not Oshie, how about Tarasenko?


A - are you on drugs?
B - Oshie ain't a center nor big....
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
You and me both. My hope is he accidently makes a rude comment about Terry's daughter, it seems like the only way he's ever going to get fired
- Sabresfan-365

That won't work
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 25 @ 8:45 PM ET
A - are you on drugs?
B - Oshie ain't a center nor big....

- HardPuck

Please stop reading what Garth posts, thank you.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Jun 25 @ 8:45 PM ET
Yea then you aren't getting Vanek. Your GM gave up Forsberg for Erat who is 1/5 the player Vanek is
- OneKaneOneCup


Not sure you understand how it works.. A player who wants out on a contract year, has a 7.1 cap hit, and has no playoff resume to speak of (20 pts in 36 games) is not a huge commodity. The return might be what Pommer got you, but don't expect much more as that was even an overpayment.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:45 PM ET
GARTH: Max Value
- garth



You are totally dreaming & out to lunch if you think Miller will bring you Oshie & a 1st rounder - LMAO!!!
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:46 PM ET
Johansson is a speedy forward who can't finish to save his life, Perrault is a career bottom 6 guy and Orlov has a moderate ceiling. Considering what you have up to get Erat, how do you figure any of those guys gets you a first line LW?
- OneKaneOneCup



Why are you so angry? I said a combination of Perrault, Johansson, Orlov, and picks. Contrary to what you may believe, Orlov and Johansson has value. Whether that's enough to acquire the great Thomas Vanek from the ever devious Darcy Regier, remains to be seen.

I don't (frank)ing want Vanek. Some other guy mentioned it. Chill. out.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:46 PM ET
Myers is a joke
- SABRES 89

what is your favourite team?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:46 PM ET
Darcy is on crack
- SABRES 89


I actually think for the first time Darcy knows we aren't good and is prepared to lose for another year. My issue is his previous draft classes hasn't been great.

I think Terry is the delusional one
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:48 PM ET
A - are you on drugs?
B - Oshie ain't a center nor big....

- HardPuck

He plays RW mainly, but is a center as well. Your point on GARTH's idiocy still holds, though.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:48 PM ET
Also, did you watch Forsberg in those games with Nashville? Kid has a lot to learn. Lindholm put up better numbers than him. Hell, even the lower-tier prospects this year like Burakovsky fared better than Forsberg in their draft years. Who cares about Forsberg? If that's your rational, you should give us Vanek, and some bottom-6 prospect for Kuznetsov alone.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
New mocks actually have Nichushkin falling to us at 8, which would be amazing. Landing him and hopefully Lazar at 16 would be a perfect round for us. Hopefully we can trade Miller or Vanek before or at the draft and land one more first. Thats my dream.
- Mentalorgasm5

Tears of joy. I swear, if we get him... I'd be overjoyed.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
Why are you so angry? I said a combination of Perrault, Johansson, Orlov, and picks. Contrary to what you may believe, Orlov and Johansson has value. Whether that's enough to acquire the great Thomas Vanek from the ever devious Darcy Regier, remains to be seen.

I don't (frank)ing want Vanek. Some other guy mentioned it. Chill. out.

- Blackstrom2

I'm not angry. I missed where you said combination. My fault
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
Not sure you understand how it works.. A player who wants out on a contract year, has a 7.1 cap hit, and has no playoff resume to speak of (20 pts in 36 games) is not a huge commodity. The return might be what Pommer got you, but don't expect much more as that was even an overpayment.
- TheLeafsInsider


What about the fact that he is a former 40 goal scorer and a proven 30 goal scorer. Put him with a true number one center for the first time in his career and watch him be in the top 5 in goals
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
what is your favourite team?
- toddkac

He despises Myers who is inconsistent, but loves Vanek who is inconsistent
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 25 @ 8:51 PM ET
So what did i miss while i was in reality world cutting the lawn ?
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:51 PM ET
What about the fact that he is a former 40 goal scorer and a proven 30 goal scorer. Put him with a true number one center for the first time in his career and watch him be in the top 5 in goals
- Stripes77



I like Vanek because he gets a lot of his goals down low. He earns them.

His cap hit is high though, I don't understand how we would be able to fit him without significant salary going out.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:52 PM ET
So what did i miss while i was in reality world cutting the lawn ?
- cabin



Apparently Vanek Dj's at a local night club during his free time, who knew?


Otherwise, same old same old.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 8:52 PM ET
So what did i miss while i was in reality world cutting the lawn ?
- cabin


Nothing worth reading. It's a cluster of what we should get for who. What team is worse and how people should never read a Garth blog. You know same old stuff
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