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benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:53 PM ET
I said something similar earlier. We have no idea what his value is to other GMs. Also if we were to go after briere play him with Leino. They had some magic together in the past. However I'd finally like to see that Ott Grigorenko and Leino line
- Stripes77

Or, move ott down to the 3rd line and have Briere, Leino, and Grigs as a second line. But you are right, we really have no idea what his value is. Pommers trade yielded a surprise return, but most expected it to be somewhat high. With Miller, there is no consensus agreement on value. I am hoping that he goes to Phx, they have great defensive prospects. Of course, that rests on how Phx values him.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:53 PM ET
I'd like Ennis if the Sabres top 2 lines were strong enough to put him on the 3rd line. He gets bumped off the puck a lot; size matters.
- GilPerreault11

he also out works any current sabre not named ott making over 1 mil per in the corners

Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
To be fair, expecting Tarasenko or Oshie and a first isn't that far off from other crazy stuff people say here about the Blues. Before the trade deadline, I had Calgary fans expecting Stewart, Rattie, and a 1st for JBo.

Ryan Miller is a one year rental. He'll be 33. There are only so many teams who consider their championship window to be open right now... and none of those teams NEED a goalie. Blues might be the only ones looking for one. The rest of the teams that keep getting brought up would hope to win the Cup next year, but aren't going to waste assets on a rental over the summer when they know they are a few years away from their window... and even if they can re-sign Miller, he might be in decline by then.

It's not that Miller isn't a good goalie. It's just supply and demand.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
Nope. The way he quoted something made it seem that way, but no he never said that.
- theblueandgold


Gotcha. Anyway, it should be interesting this Sunday and I'm hoping both Vanek and Miller are dealt, the Sabres at least move up from the 16th pick and the team gets younger, faster and more skilled. Amy I asking too much?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:56 PM ET
he also out works any current sabre not named ott making over 1 mil per in the corners
- navinrjohnson

He just needs the heads up creativity to get the puck to a moving winger. I hate when all the players are standing still.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
Gotcha. Anyway, it should be interesting this Sunday and I'm hoping both Vanek and Miller are dealt, the Sabres at least move up from the 16th pick and the team gets younger, faster and more skilled. Amy I asking too much?
- GilPerreault11

You got my vote Gil
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
He just needs the heads up creativity to get the puck to a moving winger. I hate when all the players are standing still.
- cabin

max gets the puck from behind our net

skates his ass off to get into the other zone

he looks around and sees 4 hab jerseys and the 4 sabre jerseys are approaching center ice


sound familiar?
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
Miller for Tarasenko+ any goalie Blues want to give up. Tarasenko is an elite prospect that the Sabres can build around alongside Grigorenko+ 8.
- benny948

I doubt ST louis would move him straight up for Miller.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
Or, move ott down to the 3rd line and have Briere, Leino, and Grigs as a second line. But you are right, we really have no idea what his value is. Pommers trade yielded a surprise return, but most expected it to be somewhat high. With Miller, there is no consensus agreement on value. I am hoping that he goes to Phx, they have great defensive prospects. Of course, that rests on how Phx values him.
- benny948


Phoenix is an interesting destination for him. I like most Sabres fans want to get more than prospects for him. Id love to see Yandle in blue and gold. It's a total crap shoot where he ends up or if he stays for that matter too
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
Gotcha. Anyway, it should be interesting this Sunday and I'm hoping both Vanek and Miller are dealt, the Sabres at least move up from the 16th pick and the team gets younger, faster and more skilled. Amy I asking too much?
- GilPerreault11

get staff out of here and I am on board 110%
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
I love his speed, and his work along the boards

I feel he is turning into max part II with our slow team

flip vanek to rw in the slot

have coho play low in front of the net

ennis, coho, vanek


ennis rushes back to our zone while coho gets back into play

- navinrjohnson

I agree with everything but the bolded text. I just don't see that comparison at all... Ennis isn't as lazy (at times), enigmatic, or "puck-hoggy" as Max was.
I'm really just thinking it's the ridiculously long hair that's giving everyone flashbacks.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
But... I thought you guys needed a physical D man...










PICK NURSE.

- LetsGoBuffalo75


I'd take Ristolainen before I take nurse. Also, I'll be pissed if it comes down to Lindholm n a D man n they take the D
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
Phoenix is an interesting destination for him. I like most Sabres fans want to get more than prospects for him. Id love to see Yandle in blue and gold. It's a total crap shoot where he ends up or if he stays for that matter too
- Stripes77

miller and mcnabb for yandle


do you do it?

I would
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:00 PM ET
I agree with everything but the bolded text. I just don't see that comparison at all... Ennis isn't as lazy, enigmatic, or "puck-hoggy" as Max was.
I'm really just thinking it's the ridiculously long hair that's giving everyone flashbacks.

- LetsGoBuffalo75

the max part is referred to in my last post

ennis's speed vs the others on his line
max's speed vs the others on his line
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:00 PM ET
Gotcha. Anyway, it should be interesting this Sunday and I'm hoping both Vanek and Miller are dealt, the Sabres at least move up from the 16th pick and the team gets younger, faster and more skilled. Amy I asking too much?
- GilPerreault11



Keeping hoping that the NHL turns into a video game, like most people on this site
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:01 PM ET
third line of leino, foligno, ott

let ott take the face offs

is there enough speed on the line though?

- navinrjohnson

Not sure. Maybe Flynn at RW. I like Flynn, you can plug him on any line and I think he would play his part
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:01 PM ET
max gets the puck from behind our net

skates his ass off to get into the other zone

he looks around and sees 4 hab jerseys and the 4 sabre jerseys are approaching center ice


sound familiar?

- navinrjohnson


Indeed. Watch Crosby flip the puck out from no where for a scoring chance. And there is always someone to receive that puck. how many times do we see a player throw it to the slot and nobody is there.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:02 PM ET
Keeping hoping that the NHL turns into a video game, like most people on this site
- RynoBull

LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:02 PM ET
the max part is referred to in my last post

ennis's speed vs the others on his line
max's speed vs the others on his line

- navinrjohnson

I can see that now, and agree.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
Keeping hoping that the NHL turns into a video game, like most people on this site
- RynoBull

Bruins went to the pornhub site after the lose last night
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
Gotcha. Anyway, it should be interesting this Sunday and I'm hoping both Vanek and Miller are dealt, the Sabres at least move up from the 16th pick and the team gets younger, faster and more skilled. Amy I asking too much?
- GilPerreault11


I'd love to see the Sabres be able to get two top 10 picks and still have a third first round later 20-25. Or pull off two top 5 picks and give up the rest of the draft to do it!! Something exciting. We can dream can't we?
benny948
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.15.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
I doubt ST louis would move him straight up for Miller.
- Mentalorgasm5

Doesn't seem like STL fans feel that way either. Like I said before, Miller + could potentially nab him depending on what the Blues think of Miller. That is obviously on the high end of Miller's value. It benefits them immensely in the short term, so the Blues could pull the plug and go for it.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
I love his speed, and his work along the boards

I feel he is turning into max part II with our slow team

flip vanek to rw in the slot

have coho play low in front of the net

ennis, coho, vanek


ennis rushes back to our zone while coho gets back into play

- navinrjohnson


Not to mention Ennis practically produced with any player he played with ... Vanek, Coho, Ott, Stafford, Foligno, Gerbe, Leino.

He was our most consistent forward until he went on a late 7 game slump before the end of the season. A lot of that had to do with the defensive responsibility that was heaped on him. A lot of that had to do with our team outside of Vanek, Coho, Pommer and Ennis had little offense.

I see no reason to get rid of Ennis.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
Not sure. Maybe Flynn at RW. I like Flynn, you can plug him on any line and I think he would play his part
- OneKaneOneCup

ok, ott can play either wing

ott lw (takes draws)
foligno c
flynn rw


this means we have to keep vanek or leino and ennis are the top 2 lw's

OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
I agree with everything but the bolded text. I just don't see that comparison at all... Ennis isn't as lazy (at times), enigmatic, or "puck-hoggy" as Max was.
I'm really just thinking it's the ridiculously long hair that's giving everyone flashbacks.

- LetsGoBuffalo75

I too don't like the Max comparison.
Ennis doesn't have top end speed, he has elite quickness. He also goes to the dirty areas which Max never did. Ennis is mor Briere than Max
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