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OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
Garth, you are clearly overvaluing Miller. How many very good seasons has he had in his career to warrant another team trading great assets for him? His career as been average with a couple very good seasons in between, but nothing special.
- RedwingsAreKHL

Top 10 all time win %
Vezina
Olympic MVP
Top 50 all time NHL wins
6 straight 30 win seasons

But hey that GAA is average
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
I got banned for saying I'm a glass half full type of guy. True story
- OneKaneOneCup


I got banned for posting a gif of Steve Carrel laughing in Dinner for Schmucks at one of the Calgary under water jokes...
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:18 PM ET
He doesnt know that Vanek goes scoreless in 43% of games played in a season. Sssssh dont tell him that.
- theblueandgold

Sorry, for some reason, I see a distinction between streaky and inconsistent. Drew Stafford is both. He's streaky, scoring in bunches. And, he's inconsistent, with vastly different production year to year. Vanek has had one down goal scoring season, and has otherwise been right around .42 g/gm every year. I think he's streaky, but he produces every year.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Seriously? You got banned for calling someone a hungarian woman? Wow..

tough crowd... tough crowd.

- JVince11


got a sweet tat while i was in virtual jail.

flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
It would fall on both teams since technically both teams benefited from the contract. Vancouver would receive the larger penalty, but whatever team picks him up via trade would also receive a penalty. Capgeek has a calculator. Go use it.
- theblueandgold


i thought the whole penalty fell on the team who signed the contract
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
well strictly as a flyers fan (a very cap strapped team) i see no reason to shed bryz's cap hit for miller's. also i have no desire to give up valuable assets for miller, who i see as a slightly above average starting nhl goalie.
- flyerscup2011


Thanks for the input..... run along.
alexthegr8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: vanek is the 3rd best shooter , NWT
Joined: 03.11.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Sorry, for some reason, I see a distinction between streaky and inconsistent. Drew Stafford is both. He's streaky, scoring in bunches. And, he's inconsistent, with vastly different production year to year. Vanek has had one down goal scoring season, and has otherwise been right around .42 g/gm every year. I think he's streaky, but he produces every year.
- truthbluth



produces for the first 10-20 games of the season then disappears toward then end.
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:19 PM ET
Sabres can retain 1/2 of Miller's salary and cap. A deal will get done. There are too many posts ignoring this fact to rebut them all.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
OK that makes more sense. Yeah, sorry I misread your comment and thought you were happy at the possibility to get him. But that makes sense. Personally I think Miller is a very good goalie, but I understand why you wouldn't want to give up assets for 1 year of a maybe good goalie.
- jc-13


no worries, i can be a bit of a dbag sometimes
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
i thought the whole penalty fell on the team who signed the contract
- flyerscup2011


I did too until I came across that the other day.
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:21 PM ET
well strictly as a flyers fan (a very cap strapped team) i see no reason to shed bryz's cap hit for miller's. also i have no desire to give up valuable assets for miller, who i see as a slightly above average starting nhl goalie.
- flyerscup2011

As an Oilers fan I am echoing what you are saying 100%, Garth has already traded us Miller 10 times in the last 2 weeks
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:22 PM ET
Sabres can retain 1/2 of Miller's salary and cap. A deal will get done. There are too many posts ignoring this fact to rebut them all.
- truthbluth


if the $abres dont use some of brewster's millions to secure the best possible deal and retain $$ or bring back a big contract to buy out it will be short sighted in my opinion.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
As an Oilers fan I am echoing what you are saying 100%, Garth has already traded us Miller 10 times in the last 2 weeks
- gzatron


what number will he wear???
alexthegr8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: vanek is the 3rd best shooter , NWT
Joined: 03.11.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
no worries, i can be a bit of a dbag sometimes
- flyerscup2011



Drafting Fucale
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Miller for Kane (G5)
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Miller for Kane (G5)
- sambarugh

Evander?
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
what number will he wear???
- battelmt

who cares, it wont be for my team
scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: he's coming
Joined: 07.26.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
I almost responded to have a regular conversation with you... but hten I realized you are "scotch tape"... and I remember that you just like to troll...
- JVince11


how am i trolling? i never even said Miller wasn't good! i just said that he doesn't have a lot of trade value, and i pointed out the reasons: age, contract status, mediocre numbers.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
If a 1st round pick in this years draft + a top 6 F + a top 4 D + a top prospect are what you think you will get in return for Miller then why would you even include Philly on that list. I know you will be lucky to get half that for him but do you really think Philly can give up all that your nuts they need help on D and their forwards didn't produce anywhere close to the level they had expected this year. Is Calgary not in a rebuild ? why would they offer everything they just got for a aging goalie? come on man !
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
If a 1st round pick in this years draft + a top 6 F + a top 4 D + a top prospect are what you think you will get in return for Miller then why would you even include Philly on that list. I know you will be lucky to get half that for him but do you really think Philly can give up all that your nuts they need help on D and their forwards didn't produce anywhere close to the level they had expected this year. Is Calgary not in a rebuild ? why would they offer everything they just got for a aging goalie? come on man !
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
As an Oilers fan I am echoing what you are saying 100%, Garth has already traded us Miller 10 times in the last 2 weeks
- gzatron

That's fine. I think he's going to Washington anyway. They love him here (I live here now) and I think a deal almost happened at the deadline. Some local guys thought it was a done deal as well. I expect it to happen.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
Evander?
- JVince11

Michael Cain
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Evander?
- JVince11


It's actually plural - Miller for Kane(s)

He will split time between Chicago and Winnipeg.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:27 PM ET
It's actually plural - Miller for Kane(s)

He will split time between Chicago and Winnipeg.

- sambarugh


Dem Frequent Flier Miles.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:28 PM ET
It's actually plural - Miller for Kane(s)

He will split time between Chicago and Winnipeg.

- sambarugh


he is that damn good.
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