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LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Heck no! No more then a 2nd. You're whole fan base is delusional in thinking Miller has significant trade value!
- coffee junkie

sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Heck no! No more then a 2nd. You're whole fan base is delusional in thinking Miller has significant trade value!
- coffee junkie


Might want to cut down on your caffine intake there dudeski.

battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Heck no! No more then a 2nd. You're whole fan base is delusional in thinking Miller has significant trade value!
- coffee junkie


did you know the blackhawks just won the stanley cup?
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
no. in a weak/average draft year maybe, but not this year and next year we host the draft
- flyerscup2011

I don't think Philly would move 11th overall unless is really got them out of cap jail. I think Ryan will go to either Anaheim or Washington for a 1st this year and a mid level prospect.
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
See Ruhwedel, Makarov, and Logan Nelson as well...
- JVince11

Nelson was a draft pick.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
Nobody thinks that. Ok, nobody besides Garth thinks that. More like, late 1st 2013 or 1st 2014 + mid prospect + mid rd pick next year. That, I think is that best deal you could possibly make. And that with the Sabres eating half of Millers salary and cap hit. Alternatively, you could get a bigger return by taking back a bad contract like Meszaros.

I could see:
To Philly: Miller + 2nd rd pick 2014
To Buffalo: 11th overall, Andrej Meszaros, Rights for Kurtis Foster and Simon Gagne
With Buffalo retaining half of Miller's cap/salary.

- truthbluth

That isnt that bad. Not going to happen since we now have plenty of cap space but not that bad as far as valuing of your asset IMO. We need that 1st round pick...seriously our prospect pool is terrible!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
did you know the blackhawks just won the stanley cup?
- battelmt

they play cricket right?
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
I don't think Philly would move 11th overall unless is really got them out of cap jail. I think Ryan will go to either Anaheim or Washington for a 1st this year and a mid level prospect.
- truthbluth

Kuznetsov...










(so long as he is planning to play in North America)
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
oooh you mean if we over pay for an aging, headcase goalie we can make it all the way to the 2nd round of the playoffs, rarified air. my guess is he gets bought out or stays
- flyerscup2011



SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
Heck no! No more then a 2nd. You're whole fan base is delusional in thinking Miller has significant trade value!
- coffee junkie

some teams might go for that.. I didn't think you would. the only thing I can think is if we gave miller (we pay some of the salary) and one of our 2nds but that would still be hard to swallow just because of the talent that will be available when you pick.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:49 PM ET

- gerbe75pts


what originality, how dumb must i be to not think that miller will bring in a king's ransome. for shame, for shame
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
what originality, how dumb must i be to not think that miller will bring in a king's ransome. for shame, for shame
- flyerscup2011


Next time don't say he will be bought out..
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Kuznetsov...










(so long as he is planning to play in North America)

- LetsGoBuffalo75

Well, that's not going to happen. McPhee is agressive, but he's not stupid.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
what originality, how dumb must i be to not think that miller will bring in a king's ransome. for shame, for shame
- flyerscup2011


seeing as how he bolded the part of your statement where you said "my bet is that he gets bought out or stays"

tells me that he in no way was disagreeing with you for not thinking Miller will get a king's ransom..


read more... post less... and go outside and find a fresh bag of STFU
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
Everyone was talking sh!t about how we wouldn't get a good return for Pominville too, and that worked out just fine

Miller is by far the best goalie available...
Except for maybe Luongo, but that contract...

And not only can the Sabres take half of his contract this year to help a team with cap relief, Miller can work out an extension as part of the deal

Calgary doesn't make any sense to me
And Minnesota re-signed Backstrom, so they're out
StL & SJ stick w their goalies IMO

That leaves:
NYI, Philly & Phx as the top contenders
Wash, Win & Pitt I could see wanting to improve their goaltending
Dal, CBus & NJ might have interest depending
Edm, AVs & Fla are a bit more of a long shot, but possible

All we need is two of those teams to have legit interest, and we'll get a great return
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Everyone was talking sh!t about how we wouldn't get a good return for Pominville too, and that worked out just fine

Miller is by far the best goalie available...
Except for maybe Luongo, but that contract...

And not only can the Sabres take half of his contract this year to help a team with cap relief, Miller can work out an extension as part of the deal

Calgary doesn't make any sense to me
And Minnesota re-signed Backstrom, so they're out
StL & SJ stick w their goalies IMO

That leaves:
NYI, Philly & Phx as the top contenders
Wash, Win & Pitt I could see wanting to improve their goaltending
Dal, CBus & NJ might have interest depending
Edm, AVs & Fla are a bit more of a long shot, but possible

All we need is two of those teams to have legit interest, and we'll get a great return

- jdfitz77


People said that Gaustad was horrible and would get us a 4th round pick...

wait... whats that..... he got us a 1st round pick!?!?!
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
Well, that's not going to happen. McPhee is agressive, but he's not stupid.
- truthbluth

Let a man dream.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
did you hear something different?
- rustbelt82



I think I told you and JVince awhile ago they wanted to buy out possibly Ballard and trade Lou cause they didnt wanna pay his buy out but no team wants the penalty that will come once he retires so they were waiting for him to be bought out by VAN.

I still stick with that idea of what teams are thinking but if any team would take a chance on that contract I can see Flyers as suitor number 1. Maybe Van will hold onto some salary. Not too much new info. Just holding onto the old info I already was told.

Nothing on Sabres front I heard of today. IMO Staff to EDM is odd though, with gagner getting a deal I dont see whod we want besides MPS.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:58 PM ET
seeing as how he bolded the part of your statement where you said "my bet is that he gets bought out or stays"

tells me that he in no way was disagreeing with you for not thinking Miller will get a king's ransom..


read more... post less... and go outside and find a fresh bag of STFU

- JVince11

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Well, that's not going to happen. McPhee is agressive, but he's not stupid.
- truthbluth


no he is pretty stupid.

i could see Kuznetsov getting moved McPhee job is on the line he can't wait for a player till 2014 or 2015
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
Nelson was a draft pick.
- truthbluth


He was prob thinking of Schaller,
Who could become a very Gaustad-like 4th line center for us (top defensive forward last year in his conference)
I'm interested to see how he does in Rochester this season
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
Well, that's not going to happen. McPhee is agressive, but he's not stupid.
- truthbluth


That Forsberg trade didn't look too smart to me
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
Heck no! No more then a 2nd. You're whole fan base is delusional in thinking Miller has significant trade value!
- coffee junkie


Only because somehow Darcy, finagled (sp?) a 1st for Gaustad , and usually only makes trades that significantly favor the Sabres.

(EDIT: AT LEAST RECENTLY)
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
no he is pretty stupid.

i could see Kuznetsov getting moved McPhee job is on the line he can't wait for a player till 2014 or 2015

- gerbe75pts


Filip Forsberg...... just brings me to know that nothing is out of the question...


I'd love Kuznetsov.. It would cost Vanek.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
I think I told you and JVince awhile ago they wanted to buy out possibly Ballard and trade Lou cause they didnt wanna pay his buy out but no team wants the penalty that will come once he retires so they were waiting for him to be bought out by VAN.

I still stick with that idea of what teams are thinking but if any team would take a chance on that contract I can see Flyers as suitor number 1. Maybe Van will hold onto some salary. Not too much new info. Just holding onto the old info I already was told.

Nothing on Sabres front I heard of today. IMO Staff to EDM is odd though, with gagner getting a deal I dont see whod we want besides MPS.

- Beezer33


Draft picks
I'm not big on Paajarvi, so I hope we don't get him
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