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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
That dipsh*t who steals Homer's, Beezer's and the other guys reports and calls them as his own. I have confronted that guy before, especially after he reported the Regher trade minutes after Homer did here, and when he reported the potential Stafford deal on trade deadline day again after Homer reported it. He also did the same this week when Beezer reported the Enroth deal, minutes later SFO reported it as his own minutes later on twitter. SFO might jump on IncarceratedBob's "rumor."
- GilPerreault11


He has to be someone who is a regular on here though... it is like we have a discussion on here and then a few hours later that same "rumor" is on his page..




I used to think it was that Sabres2012Cup guy.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
Any truth to your knowledge that it was actually a deal of Forsberg to Buffalo for Stafford/Vanek/Miller type deal but it fell through at the last second and they just did that back up deal with NSH instead?
- JVince11


Ihnfc ,ahhahaha I wish i had inside info

looks like a panic move some one nixed the trade last min and they made a trade quick
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
Erat for forsberg was just dumb

george mcphee had to be wasted

- gerbe75pts



Which is why he'll do Stafford for Kuznetsov and Wilson

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
He has to be someone who is a regular on here though... it is like we have a discussion on here and then a few hours later that same "rumor" is on his page..




I used to think it was that Sabres2012Cup guy.

- JVince11



it's me quys !!!!!!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
Which is why he'll do Stafford for Kuznetsov and Wilson


- Powerslave


god i hope so
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
I know Garth tries hard, I feel sorry for him.

Problem is that he hypes an outcome, it does not materialize and everyone gets mad at him for raising false expectations.
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
Any truth to your knowledge that it was actually a deal of Forsberg to Buffalo for Stafford/Vanek/Miller type deal but it fell through at the last second and they just did that back up deal with NSH instead?
- JVince11

The supposed insiders here in DC did not think the deals were related, in as much as Forsberg wasn't going to the Sabres. Just picks.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
Any truth to your knowledge that it was actually a deal of Forsberg to Buffalo for Stafford/Vanek/Miller type deal but it fell through at the last second and they just did that back up deal with NSH instead?
- JVince11



I will throw up in my mouth if we had the chance to acquire Forsberg and failed.

Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
Any truth to your knowledge that it was actually a deal of Forsberg to Buffalo for Stafford/Vanek/Miller type deal but it fell through at the last second and they just did that back up deal with NSH instead?
- JVince11


Portion of a PM I sent awhile back..


"WSH-BUF deal did include Vanek and not Miller. That is what the deal was at last deadline. Unless they revisted the offer and put Miller in I dont think he will go there thus far. No deal is currently in place. "

EDIT: Forsberg was included. Stafford to MIN was first player mentioned but Fletcher turned tables and went after Pominville
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:42 PM ET
Portion of a PM I sent awhile back..


"WSH-BUF deal did include Vanek and not Miller. That is what the deal was at last deadline. Unless they revisted the offer and put Miller in I dont think he will go there thus far. No deal is currently in place. "

- Beezer33


Looks like the Vanek to the caps Rumor might be true then ..
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:42 PM ET
I will throw up in my mouth if we had the chance to acquire Forsberg and failed.
- Powerslave


lets not think about it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:43 PM ET
I was having a nice day thanks for pissing me off ,beezer33
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:44 PM ET
Luongo is NOT being traded. No team will trade for him since he will carry a special cap penalty for having one of the 40 cap-exploiting contracts, per the new CBA. Teams will just wait for the Canucks to realize that and buy him out. If the Canucks/Gillis are stubborn and refuse to do that, they could keep him on the team one more year and still use an amnesty buyout after next season, the last time teams will be able to use amnesty buyouts. However, if Luongo got hurt and was on the IR when next season ends they could not use an amnesty buyout. So it's rolling the dice to try and wait. Not to mention the team really doesn't need the soap opera the media makes it out to be by keeping him.

For anyone who doesn't understand what the special cap hit is for the 40 contracts flagged by the NHL - if Luongo is traded, and at some point he retires before his contract is up, BOTH teams - the Canucks and the team that traded for him, are penalized for the remainder of his contract based on a formula the NHL uses to decide how much of a benefit his team(s) received from the phony years added on the end of the deal that lowered his cap number. This is the same for the Blackhawks with Hossa and 38 other contracts around the league. It's another reason you'll see a lot of those guys bought out this off-season. It has nothing to do with whether other teams want them, nobody is going to risk taking on those contracts, they'll just wait for these guys to be bought out and then go after them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...racts-153717517--nhl.html
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:44 PM ET
lets not think about it
- gerbe75pts






Martin Erat.

For one of the best prospects outside of the NHL.

Unreal.

Poile is a genius.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:45 PM ET



Martin Erat.

For one of the best prospects outside of the NHL.

Unreal.

Poile is a genius.

- Powerslave



I'm still shocked
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:45 PM ET
Rask wants $6-7mm/year!!

Good luck with that Boston!
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 3:46 PM ET

- LetsGoBuffalo75


Like imagine Nichushkin pulls a Grigorenko and falls to us at 8th, then we somehow trade for Kuznetsov and in the future end up with something like:

Nichushkin - Grigorenko - Kuznetsov

Foligno - Hodgson - Armia

Ott- Girgensons - Larsson

as a top 9
(find room for ennis in there somewhere)
truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.24.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:46 PM ET
I'm still shocked
- gerbe75pts

I really think that you're overrating Forsberg here. He was drafted 11th overall in a weak draft class. I don't think he'd be a top 20 pick this year.
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:47 PM ET
Rask wants $6-7mm/year!!

Good luck with that Boston!

- ImThatGuy


I'm hoping he gets 6+
Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice.
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 25 @ 3:48 PM ET
I really think that you're overrating Forsberg here. He was drafted 11th overall in a weak draft class. I don't think he'd be a top 20 pick this year.
- truthbluth


Grigs was supposed to be up there with yaks but we somehow stole him at 12th
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
Like imagine Nichushkin pulls a Grigorenko and falls to us at 8th, then we somehow trade for Kuznetsov and in the future end up with something like:

Nichushkin - Grigorenko - Kuznetsov


Foligno - Hodgson - Armia

Ott- Girgensons - Larsson

as a top 9
(find room for ennis in there somewhere)

- Herzeleid

That's what I'm saying

The Russian Connection would be epic.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
@Aportzline 13m
#CBJ GM Jarmo Kekalainen on how hard it is to move "up" in any draft: "We tried, in '07, to move up, and we couldn't even get from 9 to 7."

Sabres might move up from 16 but don't expect them to move up from 8
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
I was having a nice day thanks for pissing me off ,beezer33
- gerbe75pts



You have no idea how bad it stung me haha. Broken phone as soon as I saw it and pissed for few days straight. How I was told was..

Darcy wanted more for Drew than what he was worth from Chuck Fletcher. CF denied it and said lets look at other options how about Pominville. They talked back and forth and a few days went by and nothing. Chuck called him up in the morning and threw that offer down and DR accepted.

McPhee learned of Stafford being available after CF said no and had a deal to acquire him and Vanek and more. (I still dont know what the more part was) for same parts as Erat deal. Last minute Darcy oulled the deal because majority of Sabres brass believed we could make a strong push to playoffs and get in with Vanek and thus committed to trying to make it and figured theyd get more for him come draft time/maybe resign him on the cheap.

McPhee got pissed that the deal wasnt done and was not going to leave deadline with no one and made the Erat deal for an improvement now and if Darcy wanted Forsberg he couldnt have ihim through McPhee. A screw you back to darcy in a way was GM's thought process
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
Grigs was supposed to be up there with yaks but we somehow stole him at 12th
- Herzeleid


Grigs is going to be a bust. You read (Reed/Reid) it here first.

Incidentally, where is Homie slice?
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
Grigs was supposed to be up there with yaks but we somehow stole him at 12th
- Herzeleid

Grig's was ranked at #2 behind Yak for a long time, but his stock fell a few months before the draft. I can't see Nichushkin dropping too far, since his stock hasn't dropped.
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