I corrected myself, I meant mostly assets/return not so much cap hit.
- cmr.266

Neways bobby Ryan is on a different level then Horton imo

To bring in Ryan you have to break up the young core which is not what the plan should be at this time, unless it's a young defenseman to add to the core. They aren't going to trade Ryan for Mez and 2 second rounders.
- jstross

Who offered this trade?

How do you address these other needs? I have already asked every question I can think of to solve what D problem we may have. Homer might not be able to fix it. He couldn't\didn't last year.
- dingo8urbaby

Sure he fixed it. Gervais is a monster.

Don't waste your time Sir. The solution is to wait til the draft and free agency have concluded, and blindly endorse every transaction.

How do you address these other needs? I have already asked every question I can think of to solve what D problem we may have. Homer might not be able to fix it. He couldn't\didn't last year.
- dingo8urbaby

But he has in the past. My concerns with the team are that they need to be a harder team to play against. They need to be much better as a team defensively. And they need to improve the mobility and puck skills of the defense. Adding a top scoring Winger would be great. But those other issues should be addressed first. If they are, and they can swing a deal for someone like Ryan. That's great.

Neways bobby Ryan is on a different level then Horton imo
- griouxmvp2012

Ryan is better, certainly. But people overrate his overall game. I say let the core develop and bring in a Brian Bickle (if possible) who "truly" uses his size, will cost about $2M less, is a year younger, and let the core develop.

Or someone who will make comparable impact. Why trade three pieces for Ryan right now?

Alright kids and adults - have a safe one. Hitting the hay.

A pleasure as always!

Sure he fixed it. Gervais is a monster.

Don't waste your time Sir. The solution is to wait til the draft and free agency have concluded, and blindly endorse every transaction.
- PLindbergh31

Is pessimism and negativity a solution?

Alright kids and adults - have a safe one. Hitting the hay.

A pleasure as always!
- cmr.266

Ok buddy have a good one

Is pessimism and negativity a solution?
- MJL

Not at all. Reality is though

Not at all. Reality is though
- PLindbergh31

So pessimism and negativity is reality? How is this reality a solution to anything?

It's too early for definative solutions. There are a bunch of buyouts, extensions.. that are still yet to happen. Patience.
- jstross

Ithink management should be on this around the clock. I don't think anyone wants another failed offseason. Do you wanna be the GM of the Flyers that signs anything that remotely looks like Kurtis Foster? I would throw a shoe at you during that Press Conference.

Who offered this trade?
- dingo8urbaby

That's the point. What would you trade for Ryan, sorry if I missed your can't miss proposal. Are you willing to trade Couts, Read and a 1st? I'm not and that might not even get it done.

Ryan is better, certainly. But people overrate his overall game. I say let the core develop and bring in a Brian Bickle (if possible) who "truly" uses his size, will cost about $2M less, is a year younger, and let the core develop.

Or someone who will make comparable impact. Why trade three pieces for Ryan right now?
- cmr.266

i think the starting bid on bickell will be 5mm (caphit) for 4 yrs

So pessimism and negativity is reality? How is reality a solution to anything?
- MJL

metaphysics lesson to follow....

Ithink management should be on this around the clock. I don't think anyone wants another failed offseason. Do you wanna be the GM of the Flyers that signs anything that remotely looks like Kurtis Foster? I would throw a shoe at you during that Press Conference.
- dingo8urbaby

I could see some major moves this summer homer said it the other day it's gonna be a wild ride lol

i think the starting bid on bickell will be 5mm (caphit) for 4 yrs
- flyerscup2011

Yea he's this years villie leino

Ithink management should be on this around the clock. I don't think anyone wants another failed offseason. Do you wanna be the GM of the Flyers that signs anything that remotely looks like Kurtis Foster? I would throw a shoe at you during that Press Conference.
- dingo8urbaby

Foster was brought in due to injuries.

Sure he fixed it. Gervais is a monster.

Don't waste your time Sir. The solution is to wait til the draft and free agency have concluded, and blindly endorse every transaction.
- PLindbergh31

This is the thing. There aren't gonna be number 1 Dmen bought out. There will be no UFAs. No drafted players ready to take on that role.

metaphysics lesson to follow....
- isaiah520

What is there, and what is there to like?

Yea he's this years villie leino
- griouxmvp2012

only difference is the team that gets bickell will not immediately regret it

edit: i'd say he's closer to this year's joel ward

This is the thing. There aren't gonna be number 1 Dmen bought out. There be no UFAs. No drafted players ready to take on that role.
- dingo8urbaby

You're correct.

I could see some major moves this summer homer said it the other day it's gonna be a wild ride lol
- griouxmvp2012

Anything can happen.

only difference is the team that gets bickell will not immediately regret it

edit: i'd say he's closer to this year's joel ward
- flyerscup2011

Ok better comparison

Ithink management should be on this around the clock. I don't think anyone wants another failed offseason. Do you wanna be the GM of the Flyers that signs anything that remotely looks like Kurtis Foster? I would throw a shoe at you during that Press Conference.
- dingo8urbaby

You can bet they are, but a lot is going to shake out this weekend and then again I believe on the 5th. That's one reason I like the Streit signing. He gives the Flyers another asset without losing much as far as assets go. So

Timo-Mez-Streit-Gus
Schenn-Coburn-Grossman

That puts Gervais and Lauridsen at options 8 and 9.

No need for the Foster/Walker/Huskins.

Ok better comparison
- griouxmvp2012

sorry to nitpick