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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
More playoff injuries revealed:

http://www.downgoesbrown....layoff-injuries.html#more

(The Reimer one is a doozy)

- Tomahawk


Meh.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 12:51 PM ET

why are the blackhawks shopping Bolland? I'd take him for sure!
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
why are the blackhawks shopping Bolland? I'd take him for sure!
- flyersfan51


Supposedly him AND Leddy

If Leddy is really available, I'd offer up next years first and Read for him.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
The rule is a simple rule, and it's easy to understand why it is there.

There are also pension issues and other issues involved. Not to mention that a player on LTIR still counts agains the players share. If he's bought out and paid in full, he would not count against the players share. Which the NHL will have a problem with. Money outside the system.

- MJL


Could have been included in the amendment. Could have just said team can buy-out players salary cap hit, until he becomes compitent to play again. There were ways around it, they were just in too much of a rush to get the season started to work through it.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
I'm kind of surprised they're moving heaven and earth to try to re-sign Bickell... if anybody was on a Leino run, it was him.
- Tomahawk



exactly
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:57 PM ET
Could have been included in the amendment. Could have just said team can buy-out players salary cap hit, until he becomes compitent to play again. There were ways around it, they were just in too much of a rush to get the season started to work through it.
- youarewrong


Had zero to do with being in a rush to work through it. It has to do with Cap issues and how the Cap works. I've explained it as best as I can. The rule makes perfect sense.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
Supposedly him AND Leddy

If Leddy is really available, I'd offer up next years first and Read for him.

- mochoson


good lord no
leddy barely played in the final
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 12:58 PM ET
Supposedly him AND Leddy

If Leddy is really available, I'd offer up next years first and Read for him.

- mochoson


Big overpayment. One or the other. Not both.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm sure this has been brought up before. But if we are thinking of trying to get Vinnie Lecavilier signed here, Signing Gagne and having him reach out to Vinnie would be very shrewd. I think he'd only sign for a year but I still think he's got some juice left. I always though B. Schenn should get moved to the wing anyway.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Kunitz takes a Bigtime discount to stay with the pens. Say what you want but he's a steal on this new contract.

Like I said before. Anyone that thinks hartnell did the flyers any favor with the terms of his extension need only to look at this deal
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Supposedly him AND Leddy

If Leddy is really available, I'd offer up next years first and Read for him.

- mochoson


that's an overpayment - Leddy is good, but he hardly played so his value has dropped.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'm sure this has been brought up before. But if we are thinking of trying to get Vinnie Lecavilier signed here, Signing Gagne and having him reach out to Vinnie would be very shrewd. I think he'd only sign for a year but I still think he's got some juice left. I always though B. Schenn should get moved to the wing anyway.
- flyler


gagne - lecavalier - schenn - AWESOME
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:03 PM ET
Kunitz takes a Bigtime discount to stay with the pens. Say what you want but he's a steal on this new contract.

Like I said before. Anyone that thinks hartnell did the flyers any favor with the terms of his extension need only to look at this deal

- Just5


There's a big age difference between the 2 players.

The Penguins are going to quickly see diminishing returns on Kunitz's contract.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
Kunitz takes a Bigtime discount to stay with the pens. Say what you want but he's a steal on this new contract.

Like I said before. Anyone that thinks hartnell did the flyers any favor with the terms of his extension need only to look at this deal

- Just5


Hartnell's contract was cut in a different environment, under the previous CBA. I would think that makes a bit of difference.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
I'm sure this has been brought up before. But if we are thinking of trying to get Vinnie Lecavilier signed here, Signing Gagne and having him reach out to Vinnie would be very shrewd. I think he'd only sign for a year but I still think he's got some juice left. I always though B. Schenn should get moved to the wing anyway.
- flyler

there are no state wage taxes in Fla, so that can figure in Vinny staying in Fla
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
gagne - lecavalier - schenn - AWESOME
- flyersfan51



Might as well get Iginla too... party like it's 2006.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
There's a big age difference between the 2 players.

The Penguins are going to quickly see diminishing returns on Kunitz's contract.

- bradleyc4



yeah i don't see a huge discrepancy
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
yeah i don't see a huge discrepancy
- Don'tForgetTocchet

kunitz will be 34 when the season starts, hartnell will be 31
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
There's a big age difference between the 2 players.

The Penguins are going to quickly see diminishing returns on Kunitz's contract.

- bradleyc4


The Flyers have already seen diminishing returns and Hartnell's extension hasn't even kicked in yet.

Btw, Hartnell is now the highest paid Flyers forward.... not a single forward making over $4.75... really weird to see.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
There's a big age difference between the 2 players.

The Penguins are going to quickly see diminishing returns on Kunitz's contract.

- bradleyc4


2 years difference. Both players are signed out to 37 yoa on their new deals
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Might as well get Iginla too... party like it's 2006.
- Tomahawk


he's not worth it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
he's not worth it.
- flyersfan51



/sarcasm
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Kunitz takes a Bigtime discount to stay with the pens. Say what you want but he's a steal on this new contract.

Like I said before. Anyone that thinks hartnell did the flyers any favor with the terms of his extension need only to look at this deal

- Just5


Chris Kunitz is three years older than Hartnell, who was coming off a 37-goal season. The reason Kunitz's deal looks like that is because he's going to be 34 years old at the start of next season. Are you kidding me?

If Chris Kunitz was 30 years old, like Hartnell was, do you honestly think he would've signed the same deal he signed with Pittsburgh today?

NO, he wouldn't have!

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Hartnell's contract was cut in a different environment, under the previous CBA. I would think that makes a bit of difference.
- johndewar


Haaaaaaa. Whatever dude
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Chris Kunitz is three years older than Hartnell, who was coming off a 37-goal season. The reason Kunitz's deal looks like that is because he's going to be 34 years old at the start of next season. Are you kidding me?

If Chris Kunitz was 30 years old, like Hartnell was, do you honestly think he would've signed the same deal he signed with Pittsburgh today?

NO, he wouldn't have!

- AllInForFlyers

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