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Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
It should be noted that Winter has performed the "Bryz's defense wouldn't let him see the puck" same song and dance before. The agent said almost exactly the same thing ("how many of those goals allowed did he see?") in explaining away Bryzgalov's less-than-stellar playoff showing in 2010 and 2011 before his departure from Phoenix.


I remember being told repeatedly by posters on this site that the reason that Mike Smith did better as a Coyote in the playoffs than Bryz did is because the redwings were a juggernaught those 2 years and no goalie was going to look good against them. It wasn't Bryz's fault and to leave him alone. Mike Smith of course went .944sv% and 1.99gaa in the playoffs a year ago with the same team, same coach, and same defensive philosophy but what do i know.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
so do i. that said, he could possibly go to a small mkt team and play ok.
- isaiah520

So which nhl team you think he signs with??
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
dont know why anyone in Bryz's camp would be upset, he got a freakin fortune for doing nothing.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
So which nhl team you think he signs with??
- griouxmvp2012


Edmonton. In other news, who do you think Vinnie Lecavalier signs with? I'd love to see him on the second line if his demands aren't unreasonable since he's getting Scrooge McDuck money to not play for the Lightning.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
Edmonton. In other news, who do you think Vinnie Lecavalier signs with? I'd love to see him on the second line if his demands aren't unreasonable since he's getting Scrooge McDuck money to not play for the Lightning.
- Flyers_01

I think well be in the running for vinny
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
The more I think about it, the less I want the team to pick a defenseman at 11. In a best case secenerio I would like to see them move up to 5 and select Nichushkin. It possible he falls to 7, but Edmonton would select him, and not trade the pick IMO. I would then trade either Laughton or Couturier for a prospect defenseman that has had time to develop. Maybe Erixon.

Would you do Couturier and Laughton for Erixon and Columbus 14th? Then move 11th and Coburn for the 5th overall?

- youarewrong


No, not a chance in hell.
Maybe.

Are we all really back on the "Trade Couturier" bandwagon already?

And again, if we trade Coburn, we'll go diving back into FA and overpaying for another defenseman next year after we've lost Coburn, Timonen, and Meszaros.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
Edmonton. In other news, who do you think Vinnie Lecavalier signs with? I'd love to see him on the second line if his demands aren't unreasonable since he's getting Scrooge McDuck money to not play for the Lightning.
- Flyers_01

has to be the Habs
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
On Bryz and Winter. While the decision was right to buy him out, I think there was some truth behind what was said. Bryz did suffer because of the system. And I was saying a long time ago Reece and Bryz just didn't get along, and Lavi refused to adjust his system to fit Bryz's style of play.

You can say what you want about Bryz, but look at Lindy Ruff. He would change the system he played depending on his team. Bryz was signed for 9 years, it would have behooved the Flyers to adjust thier game to match his style.

I'm going to give Reece one last chance with Mason... then I'll call for his head.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
No, not a chance in hell.
Maybe.

Are we all really back on the "Trade Couturier" bandwagon already?

And again, if we trade Coburn, we'll go diving back into FA and overpaying for another defenseman next year after we've lost Coburn, Timonen, and Meszaros.

- jmatchett383

Homer keeps chasing his tail
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
On Bryz and Winter. While the decision was right to buy him out, I think there was some truth behind what was said. Bryz did suffer because of the system. And I was saying a long time ago Reece and Bryz just didn't get along, and Lavi refused to adjust his system to fit Bryz's style of play.

You can say what you want about Bryz, but look at Lindy Ruff. He would change the system he played depending on his team. Bryz was signed for 9 years, it would have behooved the Flyers to adjust thier game to match his style.

I'm going to give Reece one last chance with Mason... then I'll call for his head.

- youarewrong

Homer and Reese need to go back to the Whalers
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
Edmonton. In other news, who do you think Vinnie Lecavalier signs with? I'd love to see him on the second line if his demands aren't unreasonable since he's getting Scrooge McDuck money to not play for the Lightning.
- Flyers_01

eakins won't put up w/ him, imo
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
Homer keeps chasing his tail
- vejim

You can't really make that statement considering he hasn't actually done that yet...
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
eakins won't put up w/ him, imo
- isaiah520

Tampa possibly
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
So which nhl team you think he signs with??
- griouxmvp2012

maybe CGY, but the lights can run hot in that mkt sometimes as well.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
No, not a chance in hell.
Maybe.

Are we all really back on the "Trade Couturier" bandwagon already?

And again, if we trade Coburn, we'll go diving back into FA and overpaying for another defenseman next year after we've lost Coburn, Timonen, and Meszaros.

- jmatchett383


If you have Erixon, whoever the 14th pick is, Gustefsson, and one of Bourdon, Gostisbere, or Lauridsen we might not need to. Well maybe 1 top 4 guy, but the salary for the defense would be where it should be.

Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Erixon
Gustefsson- someone.
mjm0831
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ocean City, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
Can someone ask Winter if the Flyers were still blocking shots during the shootout, maybe Bryz didn't see those shots either?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
if i were vinny, i'd go to CHI if i wanted to win another cup
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
Can someone ask Winter if the Flyers were still blocking shots during the shootout, maybe Bryz didn't see those shots either?
- mjm0831

Reese did a good job teaching Bryz how to duck
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
maybe CGY, but the lights can run hot in that mkt sometimes as well.
- isaiah520


Team that I think would take a chance on Bryz:

Calgary
Minnisota
Chicago
Buffalo
Devils
Islanders
Capitals
Tampa
Florida
Colorado
Edmonton
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
On Bryz and Winter. While the decision was right to buy him out, I think there was some truth behind what was said. Bryz did suffer because of the system. And I was saying a long time ago Reece and Bryz just didn't get along, and Lavi refused to adjust his system to fit Bryz's style of play.

You can say what you want about Bryz, but look at Lindy Ruff. He would change the system he played depending on his team. Bryz was signed for 9 years, it would have behooved the Flyers to adjust thier game to match his style.

I'm going to give Reece one last chance with Mason... then I'll call for his head.

- youarewrong


I was on the whole "Fire Lavvy" bandwagon fairly early on because I thought the system was a problem.

That said, did Bryz manage to see any of the pucks on those breakaways which he managed to never stop? Breakaways happen in hockey. It's not unreasonable for a goaltender to be expected to stop one every once in a while.

And I think you're giving a goalie coach more power than they really have.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
for every CBO, the flyers leverage increases, as teams have less $$ to allocate in goal might opt to stick w/ their current tandem. i think VAN blew it and will have to CBO Lu, lest they give torts another yr of goalie circus.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
dont think the flyers can get Jones so lets draft Nurse and Subban and become the Miami Heat of hockey
- vejim

That's racist!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
If you have Erixon, whoever the 14th pick is, Gustefsson, and one of Bourdon, Gostisbere, or Lauridsen we might not need to. Well maybe 1 top 4 guy, but the salary for the defense would be where it should be.

Streit-Schenn
Grossmann-Erixon
Gustefsson- someone.

- youarewrong

Don't forget about Alt. I think we might find he was a crazy cheap steal.
cmr.266
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:34 AM ET
Team that I think would take a chance on Bryz:

Calgary
Minnisota
Chicago
Buffalo
Devils
Islanders
Capitals
Tampa
Florida
Colorado
Edmonton

- youarewrong


I can honestly see Bryz and Danny both being signed by the Isle.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:34 AM ET
That's racist!
- dingo8urbaby

hey, I live in Miami and I am the minority...hardly racist
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