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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
really I was streching. There just arent too many players like Barnaby or Avery or Domi anymore.
- youarewrong


I know. I hate players because they're good and they beat the Flyers.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
As Toronto needs help on their blue line (probably like 29 other NHL teams), I have no idea why they'd do this. Is his cap hit awful or something? I'm too lazy to look it up.
- johndewar

Yeah, they think he's a good captain and gives what they ask but he's not worth the cap hit. He has his detractors because of it.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:03 PM ET
1. Elias
2. Brodeur
3. Crosby
4. Carter
5. Bob Ryab Fist

- Moose_15


1.Crosby
2.Cooke
3.Kaleta
4.Phaneuf
5A.Avery
5B.Ott
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
1.Crosby
2.Cooke
3.Kaleta
4.Phaneuf
5A.Avery
5B.Ott

- JAKEw1234



I hate Cooke.

But I love lists.

Combining the two would just lead to my own confusion.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Bryzgalov is now only the second biggest buyout in NHL history.
- Feanor

Wow Vinny leads by $9.6 mil
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
Yeah, they think he's a good captain and gives what they ask but he's not worth the cap hit. He has his detractors because of it.
- mayorofangrytown



Also, UFA after next season.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
Wow Vinny leads by $9.6 mil
- JAKEw1234



Are the Flyers no longer a laughingstock around the league?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:15 PM ET
Also, UFA after next season.
- Moose_15

Yeah, that factors in too. The money's the big thing. They don't want that tied up next year. They need some flexibility.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:16 PM ET
Are the Flyers no longer a laughingstock around the league?
- Doc_Sarcasm


Vinny's is a bit more forgiveable. He provided that franchise with a lot before they signed him to the big deal
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:17 PM ET
Are the Flyers no longer a laughingstock around the league?
- Doc_Sarcasm

No, we still are. No one's ready to laugh at Yzerman yet.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:18 PM ET
Are the Flyers no longer a laughingstock around the league?
- Doc_Sarcasm

I think Vinny gave alot more to the team before being bought out so I'd still give it alittle bit more time before I'd call us taunt-free
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:19 PM ET
See that right there is why he's not good, even as a depth guy. I'd so much rather have Huskins as our #7 than Gervais. Huskins is cheap, and can play decent minutes as a pretty good shut-down guy. Gervais can play only 12 minutes a game and still can't handle even the simplest of defensive assignments. Gervais is a #7 offensive defenseman. That by nature is just a bad player type to include in your lineup. I'd much rather have a guy that isn't a liability defensively as my #7.
- JAKEw1234


I agree. I'd rather have Huskins as the 7th also. I like him better. But that doesn't change that if the Flyers have a top 6 of Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Gustafsson, and Streit. I'm fine with Gervais as the 7th. I'm also fine with an upgrade over Gervais. And that he should only be playing 12 minutes a game is not a reason why he's not good. Huskins should be playing the same amount if he was here, and placed in the lineup.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 27 @ 5:21 PM ET
So in a similar discussion, how the hell does Pat Brisson get some many high-end clients? He's like a magician. His current client list:

Daniel Alfredsson
Mikael Backlund
Daniel Briere
Martin Brodeur
Dan Cleary
Sidney Crosby
David Desharnais
Shane Doan
Matt Duchene
Ray Emery
Sergei Federov
Cam Fowler
Sergei Gonchar
Dany Heatley
Shawn Horcoff
Erik Johnson
Patrick Kane
Anze Kopitar
Louis Leblanc
Evgeni Malkin
Mattias Ohlund
Stephane Robidas
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Mark Streit
Brad Stuart
Maxime Talbot
John Tavares
Jonathan Toews
Jack Skille
Nathan MacKinnon
Claude Giroux
Jonathan Bernier
Seth Jones
This guy could monopolize the player market if he tried

EDIT Sorry, forgot Seth Jones is also his client.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:23 PM ET
I agree. I'd rather have Huskins as the 7th also. I like him better. But that doesn't change that if the Flyers have a top 6 of Timonen, Schenn, Grossmann, Coburn, Gustafsson, and Streit. I'm fine with Gervais as the 7th. I'm also fine with an upgrade over Gervais. And that he should only be playing 12 minutes a game is not a reason why he's not good. Huskins should be playing the same amount if he was here, and placed in the lineup.
- MJL


I'm not. I want an upgrade. Both MAB and Gus are no longer waiver exempt players. They both need to be on the roster or they won't be able to be called up to start the season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:25 PM ET
I'm not. I want an upgrade. Both MAB and Gus are no longer waiver exempt players. They both need to be on the roster or they won't be able to be called up to start the season.
- PhillySportsGuy


They can be recalled, they just have to be sent through waivers to be sent to the AHL...no such thing as recall waivers anymore.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 27 @ 5:27 PM ET
Bryzgalov is now only the second biggest buyout in NHL history.
- Feanor


wait till luongos comes official
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'm not. I want an upgrade. Both MAB and Gus are no longer waiver exempt players. They both need to be on the roster or they won't be able to be called up to start the season.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm fine with an upgrade. Once sent down, any player can be recalled if there is roster and cap space room. Recall waivers don't exist anymore.

If MAB is ready to play again in the NHL. I'd be fine with him as the 7th over Gervais. I liked what I saw from him. Good mobility and played with a physical edge. I just don't know if after missing a full year, that he'll be ready for the NHL. He may need some playing time in the AHL. And I expect Gustafsson to be a regular in the top 6. Barring any kind of trade or future move.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:28 PM ET
They can be recalled, they just have to be sent through waivers to be sent to the AHL...no such thing as recall waivers anymore.
- Jsaquella


So we can call them up but not send them back down? It's a moot point as I still thnk both are better than Gervais
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
So we can call them up but not send them back down? It's a moot point as I still thnk both are better than Gervais
- PhillySportsGuy


They can be sent up and down as often as they'd like. Just have to pass waivers going down.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
wait till luongos comes official
- mydoglicks


He's about to receive a pretty good pension
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 5:30 PM ET
They can be sent up and down as often as they'd like. Just have to pass waivers going down.
- Jsaquella


Do you think MAB would pass waivers? Gus wouldn't
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 27 @ 5:31 PM ET
Do you think MAB would pass waivers? Gus wouldn't
- PhillySportsGuy


Gustafsson wouldn't pass waivers, but there's no reason to waive him. He'd be a lock for my top six this year.

MAB possibly could. I think teams would be wary of his concussion woes.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:31 PM ET
Do you think MAB would pass waivers? Gus wouldn't
- PhillySportsGuy


Gustafsson is going to be on the Flyers to start the Season. If he's not traded.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:32 PM ET
So we can call them up but not send them back down? It's a moot point as I still thnk both are better than Gervais
- PhillySportsGuy


Bourdon hasn't played in a year.
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