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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:09 PM ET
moment of silence for my boy Jrue please

may he thrive as a Pelican
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:09 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Also told that Letang camp counter-offered with a long-term deal which would pay less than $8 M (north of $7.5 M); Pens said too high
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:11 PM ET
moment of silence for my boy Jrue please

may he thrive as a Pelican

- Crimsoninja

lots of good food and music there, he will be fine
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
moment of silence for my boy Jrue please

may he thrive as a Pelican

- Crimsoninja

I like what the Sixers are doing.

Also being reported that Turner will be traded by end of draft.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:12 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Also told that Letang camp counter-offered with a long-term deal which would pay less than $8 M (north of $7.5 M); Pens said too high

- ob18


The Pens should shop him now and get what they can.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:14 PM ET
The Pens should shop him now and get what they can.
- stveshdy


Personally I don't see him as a #1 D man, maybe top pair but not the cornerstone for a teams defense.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:15 PM ET
I like what the Sixers are doing.

Also being reported that Turner will be traded by end of draft.

- stveshdy

damn really?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Personally I don't see him as a #1 D man, maybe top pair but not the cornerstone for a teams defense.
- ob18


He's a very good defenseman but he can make a lot of mistakes also. There are times where he gets lost on the ice in his own end. He's a stud but the money he is asking for is elite type. Not sure he is on that level.
FrmRusiaWifGlov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Land of Single Malts-- St. Andrews, Scotland
Joined: 03.31.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:16 PM ET
Button has Furcale in the top ten picks... is he crazy?
- Marc D


Personally I would love it if someone picked fucale in the top 10 solely because it increases the likelyhood of a good forward or defenseman falling to us
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:17 PM ET
He's a very good defenseman but he can make a lot of mistakes also. There are times where he gets lost on the ice in his own end. He's a stud but the money he is asking for is elite type. Not sure he is on that level.
- stveshdy


Offensively yes he's a good player but they also averaged more goals per game 5 on 5 without him in the lineup.

Too much money, a team will regret giving him big money.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:18 PM ET
damn really?
- Crimsoninja


The Sixers are getting two young guys in Noel and Carter-Williams. Getting another 1st round pick next year. Also freeing up $40M over the next four years in cap space.

He is going to gut some of this roster and hopefully sign a player like West or Josh Smith. So I think. Cap room is also important in the trade for Holiday (who I like).
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:19 PM ET
Offensively yes he's a good player but they also averaged more goals per game 5 on 5 without him in the lineup.

Too much money, a team will regret giving him big money.

- ob18


Can't say I disagree. That's just too much $.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
The Sixers are getting two young guys in Noel and Carter-Williams. Getting another 1st round pick next year. Also freeing up $40M over the next four years in cap space.

He is going to gut some of this roster and hopefully sign a player like West or Josh Smith. So I think. Cap room is also important in the trade for Holiday (who I like).

- stveshdy

nice

i missed that another 1st was coming back in the deal. that's huge
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:20 PM ET
nice

i missed that another 1st was coming back in the deal. that's huge

- Crimsoninja


Yup. They get NO #1 pick next year (protected 1-5 though).
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:21 PM ET
I think Fucale is more a pick fit to go in the 20's than top 10 but if somebody wants him they won't wait
- ob18


Yeah, now that could be a situation where a team could end up reaching over some (top) quality players because they really want Fucale/the top goalie in the draft. Hopefully, it's not the Flyers at #11.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:21 PM ET
nice

i missed that another 1st was coming back in the deal. that's huge

- Crimsoninja



2 potential lottery picks next year in a stacked draft


EDIT

nevermind, protected, dammit
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:22 PM ET
Yup. They get NO #1 pick next year (protected 1-5 though).
- stveshdy

so if it is a top 5 does that mean it just moves to 2015 1st?
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
nice

i missed that another 1st was coming back in the deal. that's huge

- Crimsoninja


Lottery protected 1-5 in 2014. I'm assuming if the Pelicans land in the 1-5 spot the 2015 pick is unprotected. Any verification on that?
iskatefast
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 22 Acacia Avenue, DE
Joined: 08.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
I can see a letang for Bobby Ryan deal coming
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
Yeah, now that could be a situation where a team could end up reaching over some quality players because they really want Fucale/the top goalie in the draft. Hopefully, it's not the Flyers at #11.
- exlund


I can't say I will focus on 1 player but I have a handful I'd be happier with at #11 than other players.

Fucale while I wouldn't be crazy with at #11 I would not be shocked.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:23 PM ET
so if it is a top 5 does that mean it just moves to 2015 1st?
- Crimsoninja


Seems that way
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:24 PM ET
so if it is a top 5 does that mean it just moves to 2015 1st?
- Crimsoninja


I believe so.


*Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 2m
Source: Philly, which still has 35th pick, still working phones in search of another trade. Already has Nerlens Noel and a 2014 lottery pick

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:27 PM ET
damn really?
- Crimsoninja

what have they got to lose? they've reached the status of apathy on the part of the fanbase.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:28 PM ET
I believe so.


*Chris Broussard ‏@Chris_Broussard 2m
Source: Philly, which still has 35th pick, still working phones in search of another trade. Already has Nerlens Noel and a 2014 lottery pick

- stveshdy



You guys are confusing me with this basketball talk...

we talkin bout BASKETBALL?!?!??!



politics, race and basketball...man, tough thread today.. .
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:29 PM ET
They werent winning with him anyway, they basically got 4 first round picks this year and next for Holiday. Tear it all the way down and build it back up.
- Phifly10


The 2014 nba draft is supposed to be the best since 03. The sixers guaranteed themselves a top 5 pick in it with how terrible theyll be plus an extra first rounder next year.

This GM knows what he's doing I think
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