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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
I really would like them to draft Rasmus Ristolainen - I think he could play next year.
- flyersfan51


I would be happy with him. I feel like he could drop in the draft because he doesn't blow people away with skill like Nurse does. I could see him dropping like Maata did last year. Maybe not as far though.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'm going to assume the Flyers are going after Vinny. Would be a nice pickup for the Flyers.
- Flyersgod


I think this is simply a good buyout for Tampa. That contract was crazy the moment it was printed. Lecavlier would be a splash signing and I think he would great as a Flyer. I feel the same about Hossa if he were to be bought out. The same for Iglina. Addressing the defense is extremely important but I would grab a top talented forward while they're out there as well.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
Trade Giroux? Thank god you are not GM.




- Feanor

An emphatic +1 to that!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
southern people will always have their ignorance
- vejim



FTFY
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
I think this is simply a good buyout for Tampa. That contract was crazy the moment it was printed. Lecavlier would be a splash signing and I think he would great as a Flyer. I feel the same about Hossa if he were to be bought out. The same for Iglina. Addressing the defense is extremely important but I would grab a top talent while they're out there as well.
- dingo8urbaby


I think Vinny is a Maple Leaf next year.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
I really would like them to draft Rasmus Ristolainen - I think he could play next year.
- flyersfan51


He'd look good in orange.

dudebrah87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
what would they have to give up to get there?
- flyersfan51


A poopload
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
I'm not racist, I've had a black guy over once...to drop off a package.
- dingo8urbaby

the thing for me here in Miami is all the non americans collecting free money from the government and bringing their countries here to America...Miami is another country
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
southern people will always have their values
- vejim


I think things are confusing to them. Many of them hold their heritage so dearly but not in a racist way. They do civil war re-inactments, but not because they want slavery back.

I've I visited my friends at schools in the south and most of the younger people aren;t racist at all, but love lots of things that society may frown upon.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
Bored Silly season post... Beware. Coburn 11th for 5th..Nichushkin. Couturier & Laughton for Erixon and 14th. Sign Lecavalier, Gagne, Thomas. Draft Pullock or Domi at 14.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Read-Lacavalier-Simmonds
Gagne-Schenn-Nichushkin
McGinn-Talbot-Rinaldo

Timonen-Schenn
Grossmann-Streit
Gustefsson-Erixon

Mason
Thomas
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
FTFY
- Tomahawk


I've seen more racism up north, then down south. Just a deflection technique northerners use to look non-racist.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
I really would like them to draft Rasmus Ristolainen - I think he could play next year.
- flyersfan51


Fairly low-risk pick as defensemen go but his upside is also lower than quite a few of the other D in the draft pool. I seriously doubt he's going to be much of a point producer OR a true shutdown defenseman, either.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
what would they have to give up to get there?
- flyersfan51

I think coburn and the 11th could get us the 5th pick anything higher were talking coots
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:17 AM ET
Bill,

Bob McKenzie tweeted last night that buyout candidates have to go through waivers before the buyout can be exercised. Does that mean a team could claim a buyout candidate and assume their contract?

Given the reported interested in Briere, and his relatively low salary, wouldn't it make sense for a team with enough cap room to claim him if they were really interested? It gets around both the no-trade and FA issues.

- TheGreat28



I can't believe there hasn't been anybody who's responded on this point yet... there are a lot of cap floor teams that would love to capitalize on the difference between his real salary and cap hit plus add an offensive contributor... Islanders and the Coyotes come to mind.

If Briere gets picked off waivers, the Flyers would still have a CBO available... hmmmmm.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:18 AM ET
I've seen more racism up north, then down south. Just a deflection technique northerners use to look non-racist.
- Flyersgod

the spanish people are very racist, they hate blacks and whites
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:18 AM ET
the thing for me here in Miami is all the non americans collecting free money from the government and bringing their countries here to America...Miami is another country
- vejim


I'd hate to tell ya, but white people use more government money than all minorities combined.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:20 AM ET
I think Vinny is a Maple Leaf next year.
- flyersfan51


I get the feeling he'll be a Montreal Canadian but I've been wrong before.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:20 AM ET
So Kunitz gets 3 years at 3.8 per...... How can read ask for more AAV than that?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:20 AM ET
I think coburn and the 11th could get us the 5th pick anything higher were talking coots
- griouxmvp2012


I doubt that. It would take more of an impact player than coburn. The top 5 will most likely bring you a superstar in this draft.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:21 AM ET
Fairly low-risk pick as defensemen go but his upside is also lower than quite a few of the other D in the draft pool. I seriously doubt he's going to be much of a point producer OR a true shutdown defenseman, either.
- bmeltzer


well, nevermind then.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:22 AM ET
I think things are confusing to them. Many of them hold their heritage so dearly but not in a racist way. They do civil war re-inactments, but not because they want slavery back.

I've I visited my friends at schools in the south and most of the younger people aren;t racist at all, but love lots of things that society may frown upon.

- PhillySportsGuy


Guys are generalizing an awful lot here.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:22 AM ET
I've seen more racism up north, then down south. Just a deflection technique northerners use to look non-racist.
- Flyersgod



Ignorance and racism are prevalent on both sides of the Mason-Dixon, but the key difference in the South is that their racism/ignorance is rooted in a history of subjugation based on notions of racial superiority.... and it's not only Paula Dean that's waxing nostalgic about the good ol' days.

I grew up in the South, btw.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
So Kunitz gets 3 years at 3.8 per...... How can read ask for more AAV than that?
- Just5


If I were the Flyers, I would start negotiating right now based on that contract. Get him signed before free agency hits and some average players gets paid $5M
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
I doubt that. It would take more of an impact player than coburn. The top 5 will most likely bring you a superstar in this draft.
- PhillySportsGuy

Carolina is willing to move the 5th pick for a top 4 d
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
the spanish people are very racist, they hate blacks and whites
- vejim



Spanish people, lol. Like from Spain?
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