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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
Ignorant.
- Flyersgod



Yeah, shoot him!
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
/sarcasm
- jmatchett383


I understood what you were doing.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
So okay, the Flyers decide to somehow sidestep the salary cap and sign Pietrangelo and give up the 1st round picks in 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017.
The Flyers trade their 2013 1st, Read, and Coburn to separate teams for...what exactly?. How are the recouping 3 of those 4 (really 5 since you're trading the 2013 1st rounder) 1st round picks? I'm missing something here.

- jmatchett383


You can trade 11th overall pick for a late first rounder this year and maybe one in 2016. Trade Coburn and Read for another 1st rounder in 2014 and maybe a 2nd rounder in another year.

If the Flyers trade Coburn, Mez and Read along with moving Pronger to LTIR, they should have enough cap space. Obviously more space will open up next offseason when Kimmo retires and Pietrangelo cap hit will come down considerably.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
dios mio
- feelingkettle

Dalé
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
I just looked around a bit. The stats vary depending on who wrote the article. (Liberal vs Conservative). Most of them said that hispanics have become more dependent on welfare over the past 10 years. Blacks have become less dependent and whites have pretty much stayed the same.

I believe your point is somewhat valid, but it is certainly more difficult for non-whites to get jobs than whites.

- PhillySportsGuy


Could this be because of other factors such as education level or population levels?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yeah, shoot him!
- Tomahawk


Doesn't present a threat to my life. Responsible gun owners, like myself, get the training for owning guns.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
Could this be because of other factors such as education level or population levels?
- youarewrong


Drop it. He was just repeating what he heard on tv.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
Doesn't present a threat to my life. Responsible gun owners, like myself, get the training for owning guns.
- Flyersgod


We need to issue guns to everyone, even though who feel nervous about owning one and have moral objections to taking a life.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
We got out to an early lead on that one although the Lightning are surging. Who can commit to the most money paid outside of the cap?
- mayorofangrytown



hard to beat the isles over the last several years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
so fans weren't the only ones making excuses for bryz's play. if he adapted better, the contract would have been less relevant.
- isaiah520



I don't agree with his Agents tactics here. He's obviously trying to stand up for his client. I don't see what that will do for him. There's better things to be said. But with the exception of shots blocked, he does have a point about the Flyers defense. But that doesn't excuse that Bryzgalov just didn't play well enough consistently. He has to accept responsibility for that.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
We got out to an early lead on that one although the Lightning are surging. Who can commit to the most money paid outside of the cap?
- mayorofangrytown


Thomas Kaberle and Mike Komisarek should be up there in a few hours.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
Drop it. He was just repeating what he heard on tv.
- Flyersgod


Oh, yes sir.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Dalé
- aightwebang17



Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
We need to issue guns to everyone, even though who feel nervous about owning one and have moral objections to taking a life.
- jmatchett383


You're right. Lets take them all away.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nothing better when hockeybuzz becomes politicsbuzz.


Getcha popcorn ready...


I would settle for yourwrongbuzz, showmethefactsbuzz, crazytradesceneriobuzz, firestevensbuzz, sniderisstuckin70sbuzz anyday of the week.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
On Bryz and Winter. While the decision was right to buy him out, I think there was some truth behind what was said. Bryz did suffer because of the system. And I was saying a long time ago Reece and Bryz just didn't get along, and Lavi refused to adjust his system to fit Bryz's style of play.

You can say what you want about Bryz, but look at Lindy Ruff. He would change the system he played depending on his team. Bryz was signed for 9 years, it would have behooved the Flyers to adjust thier game to match his style.

I'm going to give Reece one last chance with Mason... then I'll call for his head.

- youarewrong



No Goalie Coach is going to get the Head Coach to change his system to suit the Goalie.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
You can trade 11th overall pick for a late first rounder this year and maybe one in 2016. Trade Coburn and Read for another 1st rounder in 2014 and maybe a 2nd rounder in another year.

If the Flyers trade Coburn, Mez and Read along with moving Pronger to LTIR, they should have enough cap space. Obviously more space will open up next offseason when Kimmo retires and Pietrangelo cap hit will come down considerably.

- PhillySportsGuy


So we are essentially trading:
5 1st round picks
Read
Coburn
Mesazros
- for -
Pietrangelo at some insane cap hit
2 1st round picks (maybe 3 and maybe a 2nd rounder)

I'm hesitant.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
Nothing better when hockeybuzz becomes politicsbuzz.


Getcha popcorn ready...


I would settle for yourwrongbuzz, showmethefactsbuzz, crazytradesceneriobuzz, firestevensbuzz, sniderisstuckin70sbuzz anyday of the week.

- hockeylover


It's crazy!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
We need to issue guns to everyone, even though who feel nervous about owning one and have moral objections to taking a life.
- jmatchett383


Fact. Gun related crimes decrease when the civilian population has the right to carry. Wonder why.
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
how the hell did we go from hockey to politics? stay focused people. we are here to second guess and be armchair gm's not talk about demographics and welfare.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
You're right. Lets take them all away.
- Flyersgod


Who's saying we should take guns away?
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
Nothing better when hockeybuzz becomes politicsbuzz.


Getcha popcorn ready...


I would settle for yourwrongbuzz, showmethefactsbuzz, crazytradesceneriobuzz, firestevensbuzz, sniderisstuckin70sbuzz anyday of the week.

- hockeylover



what about racistbuzz? can't leave that out.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
mood?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
Look, I dont want to be a bad guy, but racism is not just white people hating everyone non-white. I'm getting tired of this. As long as people use racism as an excuse, racism will still exist. I would say in this day and age white people have more hate directed toward them then just about any other race... And you know why... because we allow it. We feel the need to apologize for what our grandparents and great-great grandparents did. Then there are people like Jessie Jackson who make money by push a race-hate agenda. The only way to limit racism is for the country to not make any special interest regarding race. No affirmative action, no grants based on race. No race indicators on any application to anything. No governement support to origanizations set up to aid specific races. Once you address the idea race doesnt matter, and cant be used for or against anyone will racism start to go away.
- youarewrong

in miami the non americans think the land of the free means free to do whatever they want.
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