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JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 16 @ 12:14 AM ET
All true, but if Seguin produced in the playoffs he would still be in Boston...1 goal in 22 games doesn't cut it....he played himself off the 2nd line...
- busher


Very true.

I think we gave up on him too soon instead of trying to work with him and reign him in. Talent like Seguin's doesn't come walking through the door very often. That's the frustrating part ... Instead of trying to work through the kinks, they just showed him the door. The kid was 21 for (frank)'s sake.

None of this ever happens, and we hear nothing of the extracurriculars had Seguin not gone cold in the playoffs.
busher
Boston Bruins
Location: BC
Joined: 07.09.2007

Nov 16 @ 2:03 AM ET
Very true.

I think we gave up on him too soon instead of trying to work with him and reign him in. Talent like Seguin's doesn't come walking through the door very often. That's the frustrating part ... Instead of trying to work through the kinks, they just showed him the door. The kid was 21 for (frank)'s sake.

None of this ever happens, and we hear nothing of the extracurriculars had Seguin not gone cold in the playoffs.

- JS2012


Still pisses me off that him (frank)ing around was one of the factors in not winning the Cup...not the only issue in losing but was big IMO... 1 or 2 goals in the final could have been the difference...

Anyway...it's all done....
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 16 @ 4:26 AM ET
Yeah, that's a bit much I suppose. Heat of the moment thing ... Sorry.
- JS2012

I know you know
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 16 @ 4:28 AM ET
Very true.

I think we gave up on him too soon instead of trying to work with him and reign him in. Talent like Seguin's doesn't come walking through the door very often. That's the frustrating part ... Instead of trying to work through the kinks, they just showed him the door. The kid was 21 for (frank)'s sake.

None of this ever happens, and we hear nothing of the extracurriculars had Seguin not gone cold in the playoffs.

- JS2012

if they have been dealing with it from day 1..then...and who do you gut your team with to see if he got his head on straight?
who is the 5.6 mil cut to make it work?

pierre is a Richard, but even he said..some guys need a traded to be scared straight
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 16 @ 7:12 PM ET
if they have been dealing with it from day 1..then...and who do you gut your team with to see if he got his head on straight?
who is the 5.6 mil cut to make it work?

- Toad in Nj

Peverley and Kelly would have done it. Bring up Spooner permanently. Could have seen Spooner eventually becoming Seguin's Jamie Benn.
pierre is a Richard, but even he said..some guys need a traded to be scared straight
- Toad in Nj

I get it ... I just hate the revolving door of young star exports that has become Bruins culture. Especially since I don't think we've gotten a good enough return on 2 of the 3.

Another good article to support your argument:

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...tupid-160843525--nhl.html
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 16 @ 7:13 PM ET
Rag$ vs. Frog$

Drop the puck
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:08 PM ET
Peverley and Kelly would have done it. Bring up Spooner permanently. Could have seen Spooner eventually becoming Seguin's Jamie Benn.

I get it ... I just hate the revolving door of young star exports that has become Bruins culture. Especially since I don't think we've gotten a good enough return on 2 of the 3.

Another good article to support your argument:

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...tupid-160843525--nhl.html

- JS2012

would have loved to have gotten chiasson or nichuskin as part of it
if morrow turns into a top 4 dman, then what is your view
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 17 @ 12:42 AM ET
would have loved to have gotten chiasson or nichuskin as part of it
if morrow turns into a top 4 dman, then what is your view

- Toad in Nj


I don't know ... Guess it depends if we have anyone scoring goals at that point.

I feel like we're always shipping out offense for defense. We need to score (frank)ing goals too.

Would love to have one high-octane run and gun offensive line ... The other three could be two-way. Just give me one
busher
Boston Bruins
Location: BC
Joined: 07.09.2007

Nov 19 @ 10:21 PM ET
TT back n Vancouver for the first time since game 7...

Panthers up 1-0
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 20 @ 9:12 AM ET
TT back n Vancouver for the first time since game 7...

Panthers up 1-0

- busher


Bruins beat Vigneault, Timmy beats Canucks, all is right in the world.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 20 @ 11:14 AM ET


(frank)ing brilliant by the Jets
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 20 @ 11:41 AM ET


(frank)ing brilliant by the Jets

- Double_A


Wonder if they made a deal with the guy not to have him arrested if he agreed to let them use his image in marketing
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
for js
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:57 PM ET
Just took the whole (frank)ing intermission to watch ...

Too bad shootout goals don't count in the stats line ... Colborne would be up to 4 goals in his career
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 23 @ 8:33 PM ET

sobotka peverley fight was
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 23 @ 8:43 PM ET
sobotka peverley fight was
- Toad in Nj

Haven't seen it yet ... Watching the P Bruins game.

2-1 Manchester after 2. Beauty of a goal by Nick Johnson.

Subban between the pipes.

Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 23 @ 9:15 PM ET
dillon reaves fight was good too
sobotka nailed him with an early punch, hard..and peverley came back
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
cowen is getting suspended
elbowed the alien in the jaw
salvadorsanchez
Boston Bruins
Location: Just North of Mexico, CA
Joined: 04.11.2011

Nov 24 @ 12:57 PM ET
JS2012
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
Good, angry scrap ^

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Nov 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Good, angry scrap ^
- JS2012

Love to see looch rag doll somebody about now. Hopefully he's saving it for Emelin on the 5th.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 25 @ 5:33 PM ET


The scene from downtown Regina last night
Toad in Nj
Boston Bruins
Location: Boychuk, NJ
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 25 @ 6:58 PM ET
Ex-NHLers sue league on concussions
Monday, November 25, 2013
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By:
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Ten former National Hockey League players, including All-Star defenseman Gary Leeman, claimed in a class-action lawsuit that the league hasn't done enough to protect players from concussions.

The lawsuit seeks damages and court-approved, NHL-sponsored medical monitoring for the players' brain trauma and/or injuries, which they blame on their NHL careers. It was filed in federal court in Washington on behalf of players who retired on or before February 14 of this year and have suffered such injuries.

The suit comes just three months after the National Football League agreed to pay $765 million to settle lawsuits from thousands of former players who developed dementia or other concussion-related health problems — and in an era when more attention is being paid to the damages of head injuries sustained in sports.

Among other things, the suit claims that:

— The NHL knew or should have known about scientific evidence that players who sustain repeated head injuries are at greater risk for illnesses and disabilities both during their hockey careers and later in life.

— Even after the NHL created a concussion program to study brain injuries affecting NHL players in 1997, the league took no action to reduce the number and severity of concussions during a study period from 1997 to 2004. "Plaintiffs relied on the NHL's silence to their detriment," the suit says.

— The league didn't do anything to protect players from unnecessary harm until 2010, when it made it a penalty to target a player's head.

"The NHL's active and purposeful concealment of the severe risks of brain injuries exposed players to unnecessary dangers they could have avoided had the NHL provided them with truthful and accurate information and taken appropriate action to prevent needless harm," the lawsuit says.

It argues that the league continues to contribute to injuries today, by refusing to ban fighting and body-checking, and by employing "enforcers" whose main job is to fight or violently body-check opponents. And the lawsuit accuses the league of promoting a "culture of violence," in which players are praised for their fighting and "head-hunting" skills.

Leeman, who played for the Toronto Maple Leafs, Calgary Flames, Montreal Canadians, Vancouver Canucks and St. Louis Blues from 1983-1996, suffered multiple concussions and sub-concussive impacts during his career, according to the lawsuit. Since his retirement, he's suffered from post-traumatic head syndrome, headaches, memory loss and dizziness, the lawsuit says.

In addition to Leeman, the other ex-players on the lawsuit are: Bradley Aitken (Pittsburgh Penguins, Edmonton Oilers); Darren Banks (Boston Bruins); Curt Bennett (Blues, New York Rangers and Atlanta Flames); Richard Dunn (Buffalo Sabres and Calgary Flames); Warren Holmes, (Los Angeles Kings); Robert Manno, (Canucks, Maple Leafs and Detroit Red Wings); Blair James Stewart (Red Wings, Washington Capitals and Quebec Nordiques); Morris Titanic, (Sabres); and Rick Vaive (Canucks, Maple Leafs, Sabres, and Chicago Blackhawks).

In a statement, Vaive said players "were kept in the dark about the risks of concussions and many of the former NHL players are now suffering from debilitating head injuries from their time in the league. Hopefully this lawsuit will shine a light on the problem and the players will get the help they deserve."

The NHL didn't respond to requests for comment, but earlier this year, NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said, "We have, on our own, a long history, going back to 1997, of taking concussions very seriously. We spend a lot of time, money and effort working with the players' association on player safety."
gforce
Boston Bruins
Location: People's Republic
Joined: 11.18.2007

Nov 26 @ 8:12 AM ET
Whoa, Rick Vaive.

Haven't heard that name in a while. A loooong while.
Double_A
Boston Bruins
Location: SK
Joined: 06.04.2008

Nov 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
Wow ... big blow for TSN, lose broadcast rights for 12 years.
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