Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Best/Worst Drafts
Author Message
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:54 PM ET

- FlyerMike18




heeeeey mike.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:56 PM ET
The sad thing, some of those that do that are actually fairly intelligent folks who resort to being morons because they simply can't take anything positive, lest their hopes be dashed....you know, like 5 year old kids.

Sometimes, people are just idiots. Try to ignore it and move on.

- Jsaquella


Ha! I'm working on it. I've totally ignored some stuff today!
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 28 @ 6:56 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 12m
The Islanders will move their No. 14 pick for a player who can help right away. #NHLDraft #QMIAgency

wonder if the isles would trade that pick to us and what they'd take that we'd be willing to give (matt read?)
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:57 PM ET
Can I get an amen for Bill, and a summary of today's events thank you
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 7:01 PM ET
heeeeey mike.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


you figure out who to draft yet?

if so move on to "who/what to trade braydon coburn for"
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:04 PM ET
you figure out who to draft yet?

if so move on to "who/what to trade braydon coburn for"

- FlyerMike18



i'm still working on the sandals/mandals situation.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 28 @ 7:06 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 12m
The Islanders will move their No. 14 pick for a player who can help right away. #NHLDraft #QMIAgency

wonder if the isles would trade that pick to us and what they'd take that we'd be willing to give (matt read?)

- flyerscup2011

This is pretty interesting on the Islanders part.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 7:11 PM ET
i'm still working on the sandals/mandals situation.
- Don'tForgetTocchet


.....

i don't even know what that is, so i'm gonna assume that you are ten steps ahead of me. keep up the good work
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
The Flyers have missed the playoffs... what? 7 times in 45 years?

Been to the Cup Finals like 8 times...

lets see, lost once to Montreal (who only won about 7 cups in the 70s)

lost once to the Islanders (who won 4 cups in a row)

lost twice to the Oilers in the 80s (a team that many think was the greatest ever)

lost once to Detroit who was in the process of winning two cup finals in a total of 8 Games

lost once to chicago in a series that ended in OT in game 6

You know.. I'd say the flyers have done pretty well, regardless of their apparent inability to draft and develop defensemen.

- Doc_Sarcasm






Minus the injury epidemic last season and this team would have easily been a playoff team - AGAIN
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:13 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 12m
The Islanders will move their No. 14 pick for a player who can help right away. #NHLDraft #QMIAgency

wonder if the isles would trade that pick to us and what they'd take that we'd be willing to give (matt read?)

- flyerscup2011


Only one error on Bruce's part the Islanders have the 15th pick, the 14th belongs to Columbus. But yes it is interesting.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:14 PM ET
This is pretty interesting on the Islanders part.
- dingo8urbaby


It is interesting, in this regard: While they are clearly up and coming, they have as many holes as a playoff team could possibly have.

Did they deserve to make the playoffs last season? Sure. Absolutely.

But at the same time...I don't think they would've made it after 82 games. It's a moot point, because the season was only 48 games.

That being said, they have some holes. Who's their goaltender? What do you do with Brad Boyes -- do you roll the dice again on another RW for John Tavares? They don't feel they will miss Mark Streit, but who is his replacement?

What if Ryan Strome isn't ready to rock? Is Nino Niederreiter a team player?

Again, they're not a bad team. But yeah, I could see them moving that pick for somebody they could count on...because they might need that guy more than some might think.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:14 PM ET
.....

i don't even know what that is, so i'm gonna assume that you are ten steps ahead of me. keep up the good work

- FlyerMike18



Quick recap: Birkenstocks make you a dirty hippy.

Homer is wurst GM evar

Horvat is a terrible choice at #11

Coutourier has been traded 50 times today
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:14 PM ET
Ran randomly into this, thought it was pretty cool...maybe it's Letang in the Pens practice facility, trying to get his team to back him up in the negotiations?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...&feature=youtu.be&t=2m10s

Another part of the video I found well worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...5Y&feature=youtu.be&t=20s
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 7:18 PM ET
Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger)

Mark Streit's contract has been, or is about to be signed and filed. Officially making him a Flyer. 4 yrs - $21 mil.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 28 @ 7:20 PM ET
Quick recap: Birkenstocks make you a dirty hippy.

Homer is wurst GM evar

Horvat is a terrible choice at #11

Coutourier has been traded 50 times today

- Doc_Sarcasm

What about crocs?

I think it's Max Domi @ #11
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 7:21 PM ET
Quick recap: Birkenstocks make you a dirty hippy.

Homer is wurst GM evar

Horvat is a terrible choice at #11

Coutourier has been traded 50 times today

- Doc_Sarcasm


damn... i was right on point with: homer sucks, horvat sucks, trade couturier. i mean i had that stuff down pat. totally missed the boat on the birkenstock thing though
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:21 PM ET
SHHHH! You'll ruin the narrative that anybody who believes in how this franchise conducts its business is stupid, naive and prefers Kool-Aid over all other beverages.
- AllInForFlyers

lol
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 7:22 PM ET
damn... i was right on point with: homer sucks, horvat sucks, trade couturier. i mean i had that stuff down pat. totally missed the boat on the birkenstock thing though
- FlyerMike18



that was the most important part! you're fired!
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 28 @ 7:31 PM ET
It is interesting, in this regard: While they are clearly up and coming, they have as many holes as a playoff team could possibly have.

Did they deserve to make the playoffs last season? Sure. Absolutely.

But at the same time...I don't think they would've made it after 82 games. It's a moot point, because the season was only 48 games.

That being said, they have some holes. Who's their goaltender? What do you do with Brad Boyes -- do you roll the dice again on another RW for John Tavares? They don't feel they will miss Mark Streit, but who is his replacement?

What if Ryan Strome isn't ready to rock? Is Nino Niederreiter a team player?

Again, they're not a bad team. But yeah, I could see them moving that pick for somebody they could count on...because they might need that guy more than some might think.

- AllInForFlyers

Hemsky could be a good fit, although I think they are pretty good with the duo of Tavares and Moulson. Grabner was also a bit of a surprise too. I think they should very much worry about the rest by any means necassry this summer. They have to keep taking steps forward.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
Rumors
by George Malik

TSN's Bob McKenzie, Pierre LeBrun and Darren Dreger got together with James Duthie to hold an "Insider Trading" segment from the draft floor in Newark, and, among their topics of discussion:

1. LeBrun suggests that Kris Letang's agent, Kent Hughes, and Penguins GM Ray Shero will chat after the Penguins turned down a nearly $8-million-a-year counter-offer, and Shero may be "laying the groundwork" for a trade;

2. Regarding Roberto Luongo, Bob McKenzie believes that the Vancouver Canucks want to have Luongo off their roster after this weekend, even though the Canucks insist that they have trade options (Philly? Long Island? Edmonton?) and won't have to buy him out, though they may waive him (and that's how Edmonton would work its way in);

3. Dreger says that Flyers defenseman Braydon Coburn will be reluctantly traded by the Flyers for the sake of a forward to replace Briere, and they're going to demand a good young forward, a prospect and possibly a draft pick (if the Flyers had any damn cap space, I'm sure the Wings would be interested in Coburn);

4. The Maple Leafs had dangled Dion Phaneuf, but at present, Dave Nonis hasn't received any trade-worthy offers;


5. McKenzie says that there are teams that want to move players for either financial, roster or "financial pressure" reasons to avoid buyouts, and Detroit's Carlo Colaiacovo, Minnesota's Tom Gilbert, Florida's Filip Kuba and Scottie Upshall, they're all being aggressively moved though there isn't much of a market for them. They may be bought out if they aren't moved by 5 PM on July 4th;

6. LeBrun says that 15 teams have contacted Kent Hughes about Vincent Lecavalier, and he can talk to teams at present. Lecavalier is deciding where the best "fit" is, and it will be a process, but Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Dallas and other "wild cards" are all interested;

Dreger says that term and salary are key, and the Maple Leafs might be the kind of team that could give him a 5-year deal at $4.5-5 million, which would affect Tyler Bozak's future as the Leafs don't want to invest $5 million in Bozak, and negotiations have broken down;

And McKenzie suggests that whether Lecavalier wishes to play in a "fishbowl" (i.e. Toronto or Montreal) or whether he'd prefer to be a first-line center or blend into a lineup as a second-line center going forward.

Immediately after the segment aired, LeBrun posited a set of "rumblings" on ESPN's website, and he focuses upon Lecavalier and his possible fit with the Red Wings--as well as some other Wings options at center giving that Valtteri Filppula's skiddadling:

During a media call Thursday, Lecavalier mentioned the Detroit Red Wings as a team he liked growing up (along with the Montreal Canadiens). Well, the feeling is apparently mutual. A source Friday said that the Wings have interest in Lecavalier, although certainly not at any cost. It’s going to have to make sense both in salary and term. And the Wings know they won’t be alone in a courtship of Lecavalier.

Pending UFA Stephen Weiss is another potential option for the second-line center job in Detroit, but there will be lots of competition for his services as well.

The Wings are not approaching their buying season with any kind of desperation. They feel they’re in good shape. They’ve got youth coming up, their AHL team just won the Calder Cup, and they’re not going to go out of their way to overspend in free agency for the sake of it. And if they can’t find a center in free agency or via trade, they can always put Henrik Zetterberg in the No. 2 slot, separating him from Pavel Datsyuk.

This is all pending the expectation that Valtteri Filppula is headed to market. The pending UFA forward is not close to a new deal with Detroit, and while the Wings and his agent were slated to speak again this weekend, odds of a new deal don’t seem great.

Which is why guys like Lecavalier or Weiss could be options in free agency.

Keep an eye on former Detroit assistant GM Jim Nill, by the way. The new Dallas Stars GM, I hear, also would like to add a veteran forward, and players like Lecavalier and Weiss are on his radar. He could be competing with his old pal Ken Holland for some of the same players.

He continues at length, suggesting that Jonas Hiller may be on the market, that the Hurricanes would give their 5th overall pick up for a top-four defenseman, he ponders Tuukka Rask and Thomas Vanek's futures, and he ends with this:

One thing to look for over the next week, according to one NHL player agent, if talks break down between pending UFAs and their respective teams, is the possibility of a sign-and-trade to take advantage of the CBA rule that allows teams to sign their free agents to eight-year deals, whereas players can get only seven years on the open market.

Both the player and team would have a potential gain: the old team could get more value in a trade if the player is signed, and the player gets an extra year in term with his new team.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 7:35 PM ET
Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger)

Mark Streit's contract has been, or is about to be signed and filed. Officially making him a Flyer. 4 yrs - $21 mil.

- moylander


Holmgren told Carchidi that the deal has been filed, Streit's officially a Flyer
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:39 PM ET
Is halak a flyer? Saw on flyersnation
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 7:40 PM ET
Is halak a flyer? Saw on flyersnation
- wtfd103074


Not that I have seen...They filed the Streit contract with the NHL, so he's officially a Flyer now
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 7:40 PM ET
Is halak a flyer? Saw on flyersnation
- wtfd103074

Tim says flyers are inquiring
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Jun 28 @ 7:41 PM ET
Tim says flyers are inquiring
- isaiah520


Thanks. Just got home and trying to catch up.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37  Next