1997 - Mika Noronen
1998 - Dmitri Kalinin
1999 - Barrett Heisten
2000 - Artem Kyrukov
2001 - Jiri Novotny
2002 - Keith Ballard + Dan Paille
2003 - Thomas Vanek
2004 - Drew Stafford
2005 - Marek Zagrapan
2007- none
2008 - Tyler Myers + Tyler Ennis
2009 - Zack Kassian
2010 - Mark Pysyk
2011 - Joel Armia
2012 - Mikhail Girgorenko + Zemgus Girgensons

You can all formulate your own opinions...
- bsabres716

a D up to 2008
a B+ that could become a solid A since

Zubrus
- navinrjohnson

Ah yes. Couldn't remember

Biron got them the first pick in the second rd so in essence it was biron for zubrus and move down a few spots
- navinrjohnson

Yep, and Darcy hit that one out of the park when he drafted TJ Brennan

Why? He is an awful "defensemen". He is more of a forward that plays on the blue line if you ask me. We need more of the shut down guy type
- Stripes77

He is actually a very good defender, puck management is his downfall. Relies on his dynamic physical skill set too often. Needs to be more cerebral. It's why he isn't a very good PP QB.

Yep, and Darcy hit that one out of the park when he drafted TJ Brennan
- GilPerreault11

I saw no reason to trade him since they were going to dump RR and Leopold

last movie I saw in the theater was the last terminator movie

I saw WWZ last weekend in the theater and it was awesome

I heard it's a bit different from the book but they are planning on making two more movies from it

If I can not find a good version on line, I may go back and see it again this sunday


It was that good

- navinrjohnson

I'll have to check it out for sure. I was pretty pumped when I heard that they were making it into a movie.

Anyhow, if the final piece to get either the pick to snag MacKinnon or Barkov is Grigorenko, I do it in a heartbeat and never look back.

I saw no reason to trade him since they were going to dump RR and Leopold
- navinrjohnson

I agree, but something was in Darcy's head to deal him after all the development time and, yeah, knowing he was going to dump RR and Leopold. Some things just don't add up with darcy

He is actually a very good defender, puck management is his downfall. Relies on his dynamic physical skill set too often. Needs to be more cerebral. It's why he isn't a very good PP QB.
- Ryan_Wilson

PK, karlsson are the only better all around players in the east IMO on the blue line

Kronwall may enter that conversation

I think Chara is on the decline

I agree, but something was in Darcy's head to deal him after all the development time and, yeah, knowing he was going to dump RR and Leopold. Some things just don't add up with darcy
- GilPerreault11

I still thing they should have tried him as a winger since they had to keep him up on the big club

4th line winger and second team pp d man

PK, karlsson are the only better all around players in the east IMO on the blue line

Kronwall may enter that conversation

I think Chara is on the decline
- navinrjohnson

It's not that the Penguins aren't willing to pay him 7M/year, it's that they won't include a NMC. I don't blame them (or Letang)

PK, karlsson are the only better all around players in the east IMO on the blue line

Kronwall may enter that conversation

I think Chara is on the decline
- navinrjohnson

PK will have a down year this year IMO, most of his offense cam on the PP and he is still just plain stupid. I would take Mcdonagh over him.

It's not that the Penguins aren't willing to pay him 7M/year, it's that they won't include a NMC. I don't blame them (or Letang)
- Ryan_Wilson

So is he gone this offseason or at the trade deadline?

I still thing they should have tried him as a winger since they had to keep him up on the big club

4th line winger and second team pp d man
- navinrjohnson

They could just resign Nathan Paetsch

So is he gone this offseason or at the trade deadline?
- bsabres716

Tomorrow or Sunday

2013

tj 10 points in 29 games
myers 8 points in 39 games

later all, time to watch the green monster stomp paper buildings and kick tonka tanks

It's not that the Penguins aren't willing to pay him 7M/year, it's that they won't include a NMC. I don't blame them (or Letang)
- Ryan_Wilson

yeah it's a pickle

perhaps they can do a partial NTC, like miller and pommer have

seems the two sides can meet in the middle

It's not that the Penguins aren't willing to pay him 7M/year, it's that they won't include a NMC. I don't blame them (or Letang)
- Ryan_Wilson

And, according to Elliot Freidman, Letang's feelings were hurt when a source reported that someone in the Pens organization said coaches didn't believe he was the Pens best D-man

PK will have a down year this year IMO, most of his offense cam on the PP and he is still just plain stupid. I would take Mcdonagh over him.
- OneKaneOneCup

it's amazing how many young d men have leap froged over myers

it's amazing how many young d men have leap froged over myers
- navinrjohnson

He's a big man. It takes them years.

it's amazing how many young d men have leap froged over myers
- navinrjohnson

Well arguably he was just kind of thrown into the thick of things and never had true professional level development. He was also sheltered by being paired with strong defensive d partners until recently.

Well arguably he was just kind of thrown into the thick of things and never had true professional level development. He was also sheltered by being paired with strong defensive d partners until recently.
- bsabres716

He was supposed to be the defensive guy playing with Leopold who was awful himself. Then he was paired with Regehr who was very mediocre to bad. Regehr played like he didnt want to be here. Then he looked his best when they played him with Ehrhoff

So is he gone this offseason or at the trade deadline?
- bsabres716

It's now or never for a potential trade. If Letang is a Penguin at the trade deadline, he is a Penguin for the playoff run.

Although I obviously hold Friedman in the highest regard.

for those who are near NJ

As part of the draft weekend, there will be a prospects camp Saturday at 1:30 p.m. at the Prudential Center practice rink that will be open to the public, but seating is limited. Scheduled to attend are top prospects Seth Jones, Nate MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin and Nurse and former Devils Ken Danekyo, Grant Marshall, Jim Dowd and Bruce Driver. - See more at: http://blogs.northjersey....son/#sthash.OdKwjJbS.dpuf

And, according to Elliot Freidman, Letang's feelings were hurt when a source reported that someone in the Pens organization said coaches didn't believe he was the Pens best D-man
- GilPerreault11

I'm not sold on all that "drama".

Although I obviously hold Friedman in the highest regard.