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hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:05 AM ET
That's too high IMO. To move up 3 spots? I wouldn't.
- Stripes77

Canek and 8 for the fourth i would do.
Myers 8, 16 and our #1 next year to move to #1 I would do
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:06 AM ET
That's too high IMO. To move up 3 spots? I wouldn't.
- Stripes77

Obviously Myers value splits opinions down the middle in here. He isn't worth $5.5 million to me and I'd rather have a chance to get a stud like Nichushkin.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:06 AM ET
There is no cost to high to get a foundation player. Tell me a cup team that does not have them. Darcy is the only one that says cost is to high. Its his excuse never to take the risk and always contend for eighth place
- hafgod


If what I think the price is to move up you would have one franchise player and that it. No other pick in the first round this year and probably next year. Not to mention no Vanek Miller probably Myers and another prospect probably Grigorenko. It's not something I would pay for a maybe franchise 18 year old
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:08 AM ET
If what I think the price is to move up you would have one franchise player and that it. No other pick in the first round this year and probably next year. Not to mention no Vanek Miller probably Myers and another prospect probably Grigorenko. It's not something I would pay for a maybe franchise 18 year old
- Stripes77

If you're trying to get in the top 3 maybe. Myers and the #8 gets the #5 imo
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
yes because McNabb is stilll developing. Will be on team as a 6-7 no huge financial investment and is a good young prospect.
Myers is a train wreck who has shown to be a selfish player with limited heart with huge financial investment

- hafgod

You do know they are pretty much the same age right?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
Obviously Myers value splits opinions down the middle in here. He isn't worth $5.5 million to me and I'd rather have a chance to get a stud like Nichushkin.
- Pierceme69


As much of a split opinion on Myers I still wouldn't do it. I'd move Vanek and the 16th to get to 4 but the only way I'm moving the 8th it's to get to the top 3
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
If you're trying to get in the top 3 maybe. Myers and the #8 gets the #5 imo
- Pierceme69


It does but it's not worth it IMO
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:12 AM ET
As much of a split opinion on Myers I still wouldn't do it. I'd move Vanek and the 16th to get to 4 but the only way I'm moving the 8th it's to get to the top 3
- Stripes77

Anyone in the top-5 is worth Myers to me
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 29 @ 10:14 AM ET
Obviously Myers value splits opinions down the middle in here. He isn't worth $5.5 million to me and I'd rather have a chance to get a stud like Nichushkin.
- Pierceme69


Hes 1 year into a 7 year 5.5M cap hit. If he is the defenseman we all wanted with that contract for the next 6 years, its going to be a steal. Even if he turns into that defenseman in 2 years, it will be a steal.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:16 AM ET
Anyone in the top-5 is worth Myers to me
- Pierceme69


And the 8th? It's just too much to move up 3 spots. Maybe I'm over valuing Myers here but trading a could be top 2 defensemen and a potentially good prospect with the 8th to move up to 5 to get a potentially good player doesn't make sense to me.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:17 AM ET
You do know they are pretty much the same age right?
- OneKaneOneCup

age dont matter. its the financial impact and body of work
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
Hes 1 year into a 7 year 5.5M cap hit. If he is the defenseman we all wanted with that contract for the next 6 years, its going to be a steal. Even if he turns into that defenseman in 2 years, it will be a steal.
- theblueandgold

He's overpaid now. I don't really care about 4 years from now. He should have got a bridge contract like almost every other questionable player after their rookie deal.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:19 AM ET
age dont matter. its the financial impact and body of work
- hafgod


Myers did win ROY and has played 3 full seasons in this league McNabb has played what? 20?

I'd say Myers body of work is much greater
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
And the 8th? It's just too much to move up 3 spots. Maybe I'm over valuing Myers here but trading a could be top 2 defensemen and a potentially good prospect with the 8th to move up to 5 to get a potentially good player doesn't make sense to me.
- Stripes77

The dif . is the top4 are pretty much set to a point. By getting to 5 you get to get your guy. by selecting 8 its not your choice
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
He's overpaid now. I don't really care about 4 years from now. He should have got a bridge contract like almost every other questionable player after their rookie deal.
- Pierceme69


Should have but didnt. If it works out that contract is a steal. This is exactly why Hodgson should be moved if he won't sign a bridge deal
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:21 AM ET
Myers did win ROY and has played 3 full seasons in this league McNabb has played what? 20?

I'd say Myers body of work is much greater

- Stripes77

The way he has played almost half the time has been so sketchy that it makes his body of work less impressive. Maybe not less than McNabb, but still.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 10:23 AM ET
The dif . is the top4 are pretty much set to a point. By getting to 5 you get to get your guy. by selecting 8 its not your choice
- hafgod


Who could still be there at 8. It's really all depends on who you are targeting. Move to the top 4 and I'd be okay.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Myers did win ROY and has played 3 full seasons in this league McNabb has played what? 20?

I'd say Myers body of work is much greater

- Stripes77

how much does mcnabb cost u if he flops or does not improve at the rate u want.
Myers got a 10 mill contract and could not even take the time to get in shape to play hockey. I dont want guys like that even on my team. He is our core foundation def. Thats my issue. The original comment was I am more worried abot myers than mcbabb and i think thats right.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
Oh those crazy Canadians!!!
- Stripes77


Ill miss them on TSN but cant wait till they start working at Fox Sports. Those 2 are hilarious
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
age dont matter. its the financial impact and body of work
- hafgod

Come on. McNabb has 20 games as his body of work. He's an awful skater which will prevent him from being able to use his offensive upside. If you think McNabb is a sure thing than you haven't watched him in Rochester, he's still a project
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
Hes 1 year into a 7 year 5.5M cap hit. If he is the defenseman we all wanted with that contract for the next 6 years, its going to be a steal. Even if he turns into that defenseman in 2 years, it will be a steal.
- theblueandgold

Its not the money. His attitude and lack of hard work. make that contract a mistake
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:26 AM ET
how much does mcnabb cost u if he flops or does not improve at the rate u want.
Myers got a 10 mill contract and could not even take the time to get in shape to play hockey. I dont want guys like that even on my team. He is our core foundation def. Thats my issue. The original comment was I am more worried abot myers than mcbabb and i think thats right.

- hafgod

My analogy for your debate about Myers and McNabb is the bad credit vs. no credit argument. Myers has a few derogatory marks and McNabb has no established history. Which is better?
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
He's overpaid now. I don't really care about 4 years from now. He should have got a bridge contract like almost every other questionable player after their rookie deal.
- Pierceme69

The whalers didn't care about the future when they moved Pronger, same with the Sens and Isles with Chara. Big men take years.
Stadtusquo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Stevenson Ranch, CA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 29 @ 10:28 AM ET
2013

tj 10 points in 29 games
myers 8 points in 39 games

later all, time to watch the green monster stomp paper buildings and kick tonka tanks

- navinrjohnson


Homie? Is that you???
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 29 @ 10:29 AM ET
Come on. McNabb has 20 games as his body of work. He's an awful skater which will prevent him from being able to use his offensive upside. If you think McNabb is a sure thing than you haven't watched him in Rochester, he's still a project
- OneKaneOneCup

I am not comparing players. Just comparing who I am more worried about. Mcnabb may or may not work out. He is a prospect who I think could be a nice 5-6 def. Myers is a lkazy train wreck i gave 10 million to and comes to cam out of shape
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