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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Has this guy ever been right in the past?

Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

- hereticpride

I wouldnt trade Cousins
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Man that's too much.
- Hextall271


not a huge mps fan....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Is it Sunday yet?? Seems like we have been waiting forever!

All kidding aside, I really don't think there will be any movement with the 1st 4 picks. MacKinnon and Jones will be the 1st 2 taken, the only question is the order and the same goes for Barkov and Drouin at 3 and 4. Then the fun should begin.

A lot of people seem to think that Carolina is willing to move the 5th pick for a legitimate top 4 defenseman. If that's the case, offer them Coburn. While I like what Coburn brings to the team, getting the 5th best 18 year old kid in the draft for the 28 year old Coburn is a good deal, a very good deal. My guess is the Flyers would then take Nichushkin.

If Carolina holds onto the pick or trades it to someone else, I believe either Nichushkin, Lindholm or Monahan goes 5th. Calgary will then take either Monahan or Lindholm 6th.

At this point, if no trades have been made and Nichushkin is still on the board, perhaps the Flyers try to make a deal with Edmonton. I really don't think they want to move the 11th pick, but Edmonton could also use D so perhaps Coburn, a prospect like McGinn (the Oilers need size up front), and this year's 2nd, #41 gets the deal done. Once again, if this happens, the Flyers would take Nichushkin.

If no trades have occured and Edmonton picks 7th, I believe they will go with Nurse. At that point, Buffalo picking 8th would almost certainly go with Nichushkin, Monahan or Lindholm depending which one is still on the board.
I could then see the Devils going with Shinkaruk at 9 and the Stars going with Pulock at 10.

Here is where it could get interesting. Columbus could badly use a scoring center, at this point it's down to Domi, Horvat or Wennberg. There is a very good chance that 2 of those 3 would be taken by Phoenix (12) and Winnipeg (13). If there is one that Columbus is really in love with maybe they move the 14th and 27th pick for our 11th. Then the 3 forwards go next and the Flyers get Ristolainen at 14. If not, the Flyers probably take Ristolainen at 11.

If the trade with Edmonton goes down and the Flyers have the 7th and 11th picks, I still think the same happens at 11 and the Flyers would most likely still end up with Ristolainen.

All I can say is that if the Flyers can find a way to come out of this weekend with Nichushkin and Ristolainen and still have Couturier and Schenn, I will be VERY happy.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Has this guy ever been right in the past?

Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

- hereticpride


I don't even want mps
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
Has this guy ever been right in the past?

Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

- hereticpride

awful paajarvi is a stinker
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
I wouldnt trade Cousins
- vejim


Homer should be fired if thats the deal either pieces have come off our end or pieces have to added or improved on theirs
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:51 AM ET
Has this guy ever been right in the past?

Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

- hereticpride


very interesting deal, if it's true at all

drop cousins or swap the 56th out for the 37th preferably, but that deal doesn't at least immediately smell like bullpoop
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:51 AM ET
Devastating news. Doink the Clown is dead.
- PLindbergh31

His real name is Claude Giroux edit sorry that's dinks real name
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:52 AM ET
no clown jokes til after the draft, I got in trouble with my Homer/clown thing in the middle of the season
- vejim



but never for the thinly veiled death threats?

strange
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:52 AM ET
awful paajarvi is a stinker
- cfish99


I know. I think he makes the deal worse. I would rather take out some pieces. Coburn and 11th for 7th, 56th and maybe a pick next year.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
I know. I think he makes the deal worse. I would rather take out some pieces. Coburn and 11th for 7th, 56th and maybe a pick next year.
- PhillySportsGuy


He could crack their line up much of the season....this is a joke deal
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
I know. I think he makes the deal worse. I would rather take out some pieces. Coburn and 11th for 7th, 56th and maybe a pick next year.
- PhillySportsGuy

He couldn't even find a place to play on a lottery team.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:56 AM ET
any morning rumors that I missed.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:56 AM ET
What channel is the draft ?
- Deasr1


Coverage starts at 2pm eastern on TSN.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:57 AM ET
Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:58 AM ET
Coverage starts at 2pm eastern on TSN.
- Hextall271

Nothing on regular tv?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:58 AM ET
but never for the thinly veiled death threats?

strange

- Don'tForgetTocchet

I never wished Homer anything but the best on his bike
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:59 AM ET
any morning rumors that I missed.
- ob18

It's rumored there are rumors.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:59 AM ET
any morning rumors that I missed.
- ob18

supposedly Van is shopping Schneider to gage interest

Pietrangelo wants $7m per in his next deal

Edm wants Coburn

Flyers may or may not be in on Letang

Boink the clown died
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:59 AM ET
Has this guy ever been right in the past?

Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

- hereticpride


Oh boy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
He is going in to a Grand Theft Auto Game?
- MBFlyerfan

That was my reaction
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks


- Winning


You should look closer, in his bio is says "consistently inconsistent", I'll choose to believe it was somebody with at least some credibility reports that even as an offer.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
It's rumored there are rumors.
- Deasr1


I heard thats just a rumor
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
supposedly Van is shopping Schneider to gage interest

Pietrangelo wants $7m per in his next deal

Edm wants Coburn

Flyers may or may not be in on Letang

Boink the clown died

- Marc D


Nice run down
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
supposedly Van is shopping Schneider to gage interest

Pietrangelo wants $7m per in his next deal

Edm wants Coburn

Flyers may or may not be in on Letang

Boink the clown died

- Marc D


I'd deal Coburn but for the right return, if Edmonton wants him I make them overpay since we really don't have to move him.
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