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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
trading top 4 dman to move up 4 spots and a bust left winger.
- Winning

paajarvi is starting to play better. pwr forwards take more time...not that i would like that trade though.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
trading top 4 dman to move up 4 spots and a bust left winger.
- Winning

Mps is a bust already? The kid just turned 22...
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
I think this is a bad trade. Just my opinion
- Deasr1



Me too. Wait till draft day at least and see who is at 7
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
maybe if Edmonton included a 2nd rounder?
- ob18


that's what i'm thinking (preferably the 37th, obviously). what about that klefbom kid? is that entirely out of the question? (yea... mps, the pick swap, and klefbom seems like a hell of a package. i'm sure that's too much)

paajarvi's contract demands would also be relevant, as he is an rfa. if he's been a problem in that area that would spoil it for me
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Mps is a bust already? The kid just turned 22...
- fecondo


yea seems like a bit of a quick judgement
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
maybe if Edmonton included a 2nd rounder?
- ob18

Yes or Nick Shultz.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
that's what i'm thinking (preferably the 37th, obviously). what about that klefbom kid? is that entirely out of the question?

paajarvi's contract demands would also be relevant, as he is an rfa. if he's been a problem in that area that would spoil it for me

- FlyerMike18


I suggested Petry who can play as well. Don't know it's all rumors so it can go many ways
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:20 PM ET
Yes or Nick Shultz.
- coffee junkie


I'd rather have the 2nd rounder
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
11th Overall
Coburn
Cousins
for
Evander Kane
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
11th Overall
Coburn
Cousins
for
Evander Kane

- Winning


Just stop
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
I suggested Petry who can play as well. Don't know it's all rumors so it can go many ways
- ob18

Homer feels like Linda Blair right now
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
11th Overall
Coburn
Cousins
for
Evander Kane

- Winning

Over-payment. Their 1rst would have to be coming back. D-men are a premium.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Just stop
- ob18

Evander Kane with Giroux would pot 40 goals
PhillySteen
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Scania
Joined: 08.02.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
- Winning


Pääjärvi is a relatively big guy (6'3'', 200+lbs) that is just starting to figure out how to better use his size, which is why he stuck around in the NHL this season compared to previous ones. I can see that Holmgren would be interested in his size + that he still has got some nice puck-handling skills. And considering that he wanted to get bigger forwards... This could be a trade with high upside in the long run.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
I'd rather have the 2nd rounder
- ob18

I'm VERY concerned with the D without Coburn so if they have a backup plan then I agree on the 2nd being more valuable.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
You've been doing a great job with the draft blogs and analysis of past drafts/trades. Been fun to read them all.
- Jsaquella


Yes. Thanks for all the hard work and amazing insight! Truly blessed to have you scribing for my beloved Flyers.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
I don't mind the Edmonton deal at all and I think they would take the 7th pick and move up higher
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
I just don't see how trading arguably your 3rd best defender makes you betteR?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
Dont do it Homer....thats nuts....Paajarvi is not any good...
- nonpoint22


Think Markus Naslund pre-Vancouver.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
Mps is a bust already? The kid just turned 22...
- fecondo


remember, couturier is already a bust at 20,
and JVR was a bust at age 23
and seidenberg was a bust at 25.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
I'd rather have the 2nd rounder
- ob18


i'd rather have a second rounder than the first round pick swap (the high one at least)
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
remember, couturier is already a bust at 20,
and JVR was a bust at age 23
and seidenberg was a bust at 25.

- the deaninator

you trying to bust a move?
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:32 PM ET
Think Markus Naslund pre-Vancouver.
- bmeltzer


seeing as tho its was pretty much a given we were sending Coburn or Mez on their way...i'd rather get a large/fast/skilled forward who gives the Flyers the opportunity to sooth all the fans who cried after JVR left.

again, the kid is only 22. i'm all about this trade if it's the real deal.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Think Markus Naslund pre-Vancouver.
- bmeltzer

Do you like that deal?
22 yo skilled winger with size and the #7 for Coburn and the #11?

Who will take Coburn's minutes on D?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Do you like that deal?
22 yo skilled winger with size and the #7 for Coburn and the #11?

Who will take Coburn's minutes on D?

- Marc D

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